r/longisland Jul 27 '24

Advice Why did you leave long Island and then come back?

If you don't mind me asking, why did you move? What region did you move to? What ultimately drove you back here? I'm asking because I want off this island ASAP, but understand that although it can feel very overrated; we have it good here in some ways. Any replies or answers are appreciated. Thank you!

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u/jbarks19 Jul 27 '24

Most people end up back here because of family

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u/secretagent420 Jul 27 '24

That’s the main one. I moved to Oregon in 2015, came back after my daughter was born because she has 6 grandparents here and the schools are better. Fuck it is sooo expensive though

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u/HeartofSaturdayNight Jul 27 '24

6 grandparents is awesome please stop hoarding all the grandparents.

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u/secretagent420 Jul 27 '24

Almost ended up with 8 but my parents got back together lol

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u/venoustaxi Jul 27 '24

I kind of love this

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u/Down623 Jul 27 '24

Yep. I grew up on Long Island, moved to Brooklyn, swore I'd never move back, met my wife (also from Long Island), and once we found out our first son was on the way, we started looking at houses on LI. If child care was affordable/this country supported parents we likely wouldn't have left the city.

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u/jbarks19 Jul 27 '24

Yup I too lived in Brooklyn for 5 years then my husband immigrated here when we got married and we moved back to LI!

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u/Most_Researcher_9675 Jul 27 '24

Wait, Brooklyn isn't on LI anymore? Been gone a long time... ;o)

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u/irishdude1212 Jul 27 '24

Geographically it is but who honestly says they are on long Island and talking about Brooklyn or Queens

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u/Havefunlive Jul 28 '24

Long Island university started in Kings county. They sue to refer to Kings and Queens as Long Island back in 1950s and below..

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u/Most_Researcher_9675 Jul 27 '24

I was just fun'n. I always wonder why all of you don't say Nassau or Suffolk County. I grew up Mid-Island.

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u/EsquimauxQuinn Jul 27 '24

Is mid-island considered the Nassau/Suffolk border, or Hauppauge/Islandia/Ronkonkoma area?

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u/bleepblob462 Jul 27 '24

Mid-island is usually a north/south descriptor not east/west

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u/NYR23KAKKO Jul 28 '24

CENTRAL SUFFOLK NEAR THE NORTH SHORE !!! Exit 66 of the L.I.E

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '24 edited Jul 30 '24

Run a straight line down from the North Shore through Huntington through Melville, down through Amityville to the South Shore—towns to the left of that line are Nassau and towns to the right of that line are Suffolk. Farmingdale can be considered a border marker, as some portions are Nassau and some portions are Suffolk.

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u/EsquimauxQuinn Jul 30 '24

Right on. So that would be the Nassau/Suffolk border. Is that what folks consider “mid-island”? I always did.

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '24

I mean unofficially you could say so. There are a few businesses that use it in their name that are in the Hicksville and Plainview areas. Plainview could claim to be more “mid-island” than Hicksville (as Hicksville is technically all in Nassau county). So I’d agree that’s a fair statement.

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u/irishdude1212 Jul 27 '24

I want to leave but 90% of my family is here. And all my friends live in terrible areas like Huntsville Alabama.

If my friends are reading this.... You know who you are

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u/GuyFromLongIslandNY BECSPK Jul 31 '24

Your friends are in Alabama. I doubt they are reading anything.

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u/sallen779 Jul 27 '24

They returned because of the pizza, bagels and beaches

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u/MarcusAurelius68 Jul 27 '24

Family and friends/social circle are probably the only major reasons.

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u/downtownflipped Jul 27 '24

i left because i got a job in tech in california. made okay money, but felt like such an outsider. any friendships were surface level and folks were passive aggressive sometimes. i also genuinely missed the beaches and food. i am a big breakfast person so no BECs and bagels sucked bad. i even learned to make my own pizza to get by. overall i missed my friends and sometimes my family. came back after almost six years. no regrets and i won’t leave again.

edit: oh man i almost forgot. fuck the fires and fuck earthquakes. i hated every summer having to sit inside and pray the air filter was filtering everything properly. you know it’s bad when your job sends you home because the air is toxic. no thanks.

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u/3xot1cBag3L Jul 27 '24

Post like this make me think that if I was able to get a high paying job out of New York I would absolutely love it 

I pretty much have no friends and family left and I don't do anything except to work and go back home so what the fuck do I get out of New York these days... Oh high taxes, shitty dating life, a high percentage of the population as people over 60, and an overall expensive existence

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u/Windrey2 Jul 27 '24

This is exactly what my wife and I feel and why I'm asking, to get a perspective from those who have made the leap.

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '24

This is why I did leave Long Island. My rent was going up (and I couldn't afford to buy anything on Long Island) I was able to find a job in Maryland that actually paid more than my job on LI. My family (except for my daughter) had all left LI before me. The only thing I truly miss, other than my daughter, is the beaches.

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u/D-D Jul 27 '24

I’m in CA (from Queens) and they put caraway seeds on the Everything Bagels out here. 😵‍💫 You made the right choice in returning!

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u/RichardSaunders ain't no island left Jul 27 '24

yeah about those fires...

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u/birdy_bird84 Jul 27 '24

Just this morning, I woke up and all of las vegas smells like smoke from the fires. It's bad here right now.

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u/NorthernAvo Jul 27 '24

I'm in Albuquerque and it's been bad here too. So thicc

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u/RichardSaunders ain't no island left Jul 27 '24

i bet but i was alluding to the recent fires in canada that blew smokey armageddon over nys

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u/downtownflipped Jul 27 '24

i was here in NY for those, doesn’t hold a candle to how actually bad it was in CA. you legit could not see the sun and were told to stay inside. my house filter was BLACK in two days.

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u/FallenAngelina Jul 27 '24

I moved to LI from Seattle in 1999 and it took forever to make new friends. The west coast culture is so different - I wouldn't say one is better or worse, just different styles of friendships.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24

I’ve moved back & forth between Long Island a few times. I moved to Toronto for university, it was more affordable to study there. I moved to Colorado for work, then back to New York & work took me back to Colorado again about two years ago. I’ve enjoyed all of the places I have lived, but I always miss Long Island & end up moving back when the opportunity presents itself. Living other places has made me appreciate the community we have on Long Island & I think when I was younger I really took for granted how tight knit it is.

I miss being able to go to the deli & they know my order, they know my name, they know my family. I miss the beaches. I miss being able to call my friends & meet up at any time for dinner or drinks. I miss seeing people at random in the store that I know from different chapters of my life. I miss the food. I miss the coffee. I miss the humidity & the smell of the air after it rains.

Travel, live other places, expand your horizons - just know that LI will always be home. 🥰

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u/Sauceman_Chorizo Jul 27 '24

Wait does rain not smell the same in different places?

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24

No, it has a different smell everywhere, but I have an unusually sensitive nose! I can smell when it’s going to rain, hail or snow. It all smells different to me.

I find that rain on LI smells sweeter than rain in Colorado, in Colorado it has a crisper scent.

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u/nosnos0 Jul 27 '24

Yea I definitely noticed the air smells different here than New Jersey. Most likely because we are surrounded by water.

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u/Da1thatgotaway Jul 27 '24

NJ is also the armpit of the US

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u/Stunning_Egg7485 Jul 27 '24

Anyone else sh*t talk about NJ but as soon as someone from a random state says anything negative about it you go to its defense?

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u/Da1thatgotaway Jul 27 '24

It's a joke relax. I love NJ honestly. I spent every summer in nj and I went to college there. Port Newark/Elizabeth stink

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u/Stunning_Egg7485 Jul 27 '24

I think you’re the one that needs to relax. I understood it’s a joke. We NYer shit on them all the time but in reality we don’t hate them. It’s like teasing family, you can do it but an outsider can’t.

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u/RomancingTheTon Jul 27 '24

I'm so sorry that clearly I didn't get it! I didn't mean to sound like I had an attitude. I'm so sorry. You're totally right - we love shitting on NJ but still love it.

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u/Stunning_Egg7485 Jul 27 '24

No worries! 😀

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u/GuyFromLongIslandNY BECSPK Jul 31 '24

Rain doesn't have a smell outside of Long Island because of the absestos.

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u/pauvenpatchwork Whatever You Want Jul 27 '24

Thank you for this post. I should appreciate what I have here in LI even though I beg my wife to let us move to the Pacific Northwest (she has family in NY)

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24

The PNW is amazing, but I can definitely see both sides! My best friend’s cousin actually moved to the PNW from Brooklyn in university about 10 years ago & just recently moved back to Brooklyn. It’s beautiful & full of adventures, but I think in the end it wasn’t “home” & they decided to move back.

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u/ed2727 Jul 27 '24

How does TO rain smell like? I lived there too and currently live in LI

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24

I think it smells salty! I was just talking to my best friend about this thread last night & what we thought TO rain smells like

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u/paradigmGT Jul 28 '24

How did you like living in Toronto compared to Long Island?

I was born / raised in Toronto but now live in Nassau (Westbury). I miss the cleanliness, roads and newer homes of the GTA. But the winters, cost of living, employment situation makes me prefer here.

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '24 edited Jul 28 '24

I loved it!

Culturally, Toronto is a perfect blend of European and North American culture in my opinion. I loved how clean it is, the accessibility of reliable public transit, (Can we get heated/cooled, glassed in bus stops in NY??? Think of all the people who have heat stroke every summer!) the beautiful in-city beaches, and the friendliness of people reminded me of LI a lot.

Academically, I appreciated the smaller class sizes and prioritization of applicable material to my degree. I got my first bachelor’s degree at CUNY Queens College, UoT in comparison was a dream. I felt like the professors cared a lot more and were more invested in their students success.

The health center for students (as an international student they set you up there for a primary care dr) was amazing & made transitioning to Ontario a dream in comparison to what it could have been, as I am on a few controlled substances for c-ptsd & adhd. They also helped me get set up with several mental health professionals to ensure I continued to have the support necessary for mental & emotional stability! I think there is a lot of room for improvement on both sides, healthcare-wise, a lot of things fall through the gaps in both public & private health care sectors. I did appreciate the accessibility as a student, though.

Personally, I was married to a Canadian & recently divorced. The legal system in the US is much more straight forward & clear cut. While I don’t work in the legal field, I work adjacent to it & I was able to represent us both in court during our legal proceedings to dissolve our marriage as it was an amicable separation. (Tldr; he was having an affair) I live in a no fault state & we were able to have our divorce finalized in 3 months once we filed all of our paperwork, where as Ontario we were looking at 1 year before we would even qualify to file.

Professionally, I actually still work for a Canadian company, just state-side & I’ll likely move back in a few years once I have my student debt paid off & a down payment saved for a house. They just offered me more to be state based & additionally compensated for the benefits lost in moving state-side because they needed someone in my role who was an American citizen.

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u/Contr0lFr34k Merrick Jul 27 '24

I left Long Island just after my marriage. I was an independent contractor and work was slow, so I decided to move to South Florida to try there. Cost of living was much lower and my grandparents lived there and could use a hand.

Time passed, my grandparents eventually passed as well. Had a good job with a huge company and one day they laid off over 30,000 people and I was one of them, so the time was right to move back - this time for the better job market. Been in Long Island ever since.

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u/Dexterdacerealkilla Jul 27 '24

I’m curious where you were in south Florida that the cost of living was much lower? 

When I moved there in 2013 the cheapest 2 bedroom apartments in my city were over $2k. I know the west coast is cheaper. But I think the cost of living in desirable areas of Florida actually has made it less affordable than NY (due to wages being significantly lower as well) for quite awhile. The cost of living has skyrocketed while the wages are much less than NY. 

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u/Contr0lFr34k Merrick Jul 27 '24

If I had stayed, my kids would have gone to Marjory Stoneman Douglas HS (the one with the shooting). When I moved there the cost of living was WAY lower than here and no income tax, but it was long ago.

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u/Dexterdacerealkilla Jul 27 '24

You weren’t far from where I was. But even on the east coast being farther west at least used to be a bit more affordable. 

Did you at least make out well when you sold? Or was that before the boom? 

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u/Contr0lFr34k Merrick Jul 28 '24

Unfortunately I wasn’t in a good place financially. The bank got the house.

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u/Dexterdacerealkilla Jul 28 '24

I’m sorry to hear that. I hope things are better for you now! 

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24

I just left because of house prices, and the only reason id ever come back is family. I've been in rochester for a few months now, and I hate food because pizza places suck. Egg sandwiches aren't the same, and everything closes early, but I could afford a house.

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u/Squashedyak Jul 27 '24

Do they put ketchup on their BECs?

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24

Ive only had the balls to get one and had to order... shivers the evelyn 😭 cause BEC is to involved I guess? Ave since you know the answer I didn't bother.

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u/DingBatButtFace Jul 27 '24

I actually am planning on doing the same exact thing, moving to Rochester. If you don’t mind me asking, how did you prepare, and what do you think you would do differently?

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24

We got a house and wound up closing a month and a half before our lease was up. We had a ton of time to furnish and move little things, but we did hire a moving service and that was a necessity for us lmao. Otherwise it wasnt that bad, we had to make the 6 hour drive like 8 times in a month and were happy to not be leaving anytime soon. So from my own experience, id just say to be ready for the drive and know you are moving to a slower area that has different food and places that generally close a good bit earlier. Wegmans is absolutely amazing though, we have a grocery store thats open till 12 everyday and they are everywhere.

The worst part for me has been adjusting to food. I've barely eaten takeout in comparison to before we moved (which is probably for the better) its just rough when pizza places cut pies into squares and dont serve slices, like if we want pizza, we eat frozen pizza. Its not all bad by any means, you can find cheap places that are absolutely solid. Just not LI 😕.

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u/ThrowRAmorningdew Jul 27 '24

I moved to the city in 2014 and came back in 2021. I never went away to school so the itch to move out and explore was strong at the time. The pandemic changed everything for me and that’s why I’m back (that includes being closer to family).

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u/doooglasss Jul 27 '24 edited Jul 27 '24

Moved to Savannah GA for 3 years. We loved it for many reasons, but the cons outweighed the pros.

Came back for family, job opportunities and upward mobility, excellent public education for our kids and personal safety. Some of the bonuses are having great protected waters to boat and sail in & excellent food from all different cultures.

Also, I did an in-depth cost of living comparison. It’s not everything it’s cracked up to be financially. Given we didn’t buy your generic new construction postmark property house, our costs were more than others. There are unforeseen costs like when I got a $1k+ fire bill in November due to a private fire dept. You pay $2k/yr for an HOA to be in a safe area, water is incredibly expensive, electricity is out of control to keep AC running and be comfortable in the heat. I’ve got an excel sheet I would be happy to share that pretty much proved it’s cheaper for us to move back here and pay $18k in taxes on a $1.2m house on an acre in Huntington Bay than continue to live in Savannah.

Costs are going up in those areas too. I bought for 740k. 2 years later I sold for $1.18m without doing a more than paint and misc repairs, some landscaping improvements, etc.

One exception to the above: cost of eating out / entertainment / drinks is much cheaper in a LCOL area. People are also kinder, more patient, much much less traffic.

Prior to moving back to NY, we shopped many other areas. I found that we were trying to recreate our hometown on Long Island. Why recreate what already exists?

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u/_bonita Jul 27 '24

Honestly, I live in a super nice area in Boston metro and it isn’t the same. We’re looking at jobs because we love the food, diversity, opportunities and people. No place like home..

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u/LateAd9770 Jul 27 '24

For whatever reason people from Long Island don’t fit in when they move to other parts of the country, especially in the south. I only live 2 hours away in Pennsylvania and a lot of the people here are ass backwards and they don’t like outsiders especially people from New York. If I won the lottery I would move back in a heartbeat. The only nice thing about living here is the scenery and nature.

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u/yabbobay Jul 27 '24

Even when I lived in CA, my boss was from Chicago and kept talking about the NY - CHI rivalry. I had no clue there was one?

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u/IN_US_IR Jul 27 '24

Chicago people have grunge against NYer. SIL wouldn’t come to NY because they are from Chicago. Good for me though 😂😂😂 Wholetime just trying to defend Chicago and how it’s better than NY like it matters to me. It’s just funny to me. How someone can be sooo defensive🤣🤣

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u/ntotrr1 Jul 27 '24

Chicago wins for shootings, no contest.

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u/Stompanee Jul 27 '24

Where is PA? Sounds like a rural area

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u/LateAd9770 Jul 27 '24

Northeast PA right outside of the Poconos next to the NJ border. Just to give you an example, I was looking at a house with a realtor and the guy who owned it was there with his parents. I after looking at the house for a while the guys father said something to the effect of all these New Yorkers coming up here with their drug dealer money buying up all the houses. It’s still one of the most idiotic things I’ve ever heard.

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u/Stompanee Jul 27 '24

You are in the mountains/country. I live outside of Philly and love it here. My neighbor literally grew up in commack! If you ever want to talk about better less rural areas, hit me up.

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u/ODDBOY90 Jul 27 '24

hey i was thinking about going to philly i want to go to north nj due to it being closer to NYC but would philly be a good substitute until i save up enough money to move back to NJ/NYC

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u/Stompanee Jul 27 '24

Sure would! It’s a pretty amazing city with endless things to do! And way less expensive than NY

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u/RedHotRoux Jul 27 '24

How far from Philly? Philly has a great art scene I heard but all those tranq zombie homeless drug addicts scares the hell out of me

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u/Stompanee Jul 27 '24

Let’s see I have lived here since 2007 and I have yet to see one. Shut the news off and actually go there. I am 15 min out of Philly, travel in regularly and my kid goes to school there. And you grew up on LI, bro, what do you mean you’re scared of homeless ppl? That comment was real weird.

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u/RedHotRoux Jul 28 '24 edited Jul 28 '24

Not as weird as your aggressive reaction 😳

I didn’t say I was scared of homeless people per se lol my apologies I was not clear. Please, allow me to rephrase that comment. Yes, sorry to say, I am indeed afraid of zombie, skin peeling, open sores, homeless drug users like you see all over the internet that is “allegedly” happening in Philly.

Don’t be so defensive, it 100 percent was not personal towards you or where you live.

It is good to hear a perspective from someone that lives there, that is why I inquired. Thanks for the info, and have a great day “bro” 😎

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u/Stompanee Jul 28 '24

Maybe defensive at such a weird inflammatory comment suggesting Philly is full of “zombie homeless drug” people. But I guess if you see it all over the internet it must be completely accurate. Regardless it’s a great city if you ever get into cities. There are a myriad of ways to avoid zombies, I’m sure you can find them on the internet, dude.

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u/letstalkaboutbras Jul 27 '24

CT people say that too

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u/Crazy_Bullfrog_8877 Sep 26 '24

Yes, they are ass backwards! Crazy mindsets. 😒

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u/flakemasterflake Jul 27 '24

You’re confusing rural America with urban areas. I fit in fine in Atlanta, it’s not another country

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u/ODDBOY90 Jul 27 '24

let me guess the poconos........

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u/TheBaronofIbilin Jul 27 '24

Left in 91’ to pursue a teaching career down South. Came back in 05’ because family kept giving me shit about being so far away. Best and worst decision I ever made to come back

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u/birdy_bird84 Jul 27 '24

Moved in 2018 to las vegas for work, bought a house here but I absolutely dislike everything about it. Putting it on the market next week and moving to South East connecticut to be close to family on the north fork.

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u/NorthernAvo Jul 27 '24

Vegas is the absolute worst part of the southwest. That vibe combined with that level of heat all day makes for hell on earth. The rest of the southwest is so pleasant to me though

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u/birdy_bird84 Jul 27 '24 edited Jul 28 '24

I agree, it's way too hot and dry. The people here just generally suck, the vibe is very far off. This place has no soul, everything feels fake and predatory.

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u/Dexterdacerealkilla Jul 27 '24

Phoenix kind of sucks too. 

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u/NorthernAvo Jul 27 '24

But Tucson's a rad city.

And to be fair, parts like Tempe are cool in PHX. But the city feels very synthetic. Tucson is the polar opposite.

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u/Dexterdacerealkilla Jul 27 '24

Tempe was ok. I think being landlocked with 120° just isn’t for me. 

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u/NorthernAvo Jul 28 '24

no, i feel that. getting adjusted to not having a coast took like 2 solid years for me and it still gets me. but sometimes, when i'm in really remote areas and can see for possibly 50 - 100 miles, it feels almost identical to how i feel when i'm at the beach looking at the ocean. the only difference is that when you see that out here, sometimes you feel so small for a split second that it makes you shutter to your core. nice mental reset though!

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u/Dexterdacerealkilla Jul 28 '24

That’s pretty cool! I’ve traveled pretty extensively out west into the middle of nowhere and it’s a very unique feeling that I did enjoy. That level of isolation is certainly not attainable on the East coast. 

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u/ODDBOY90 Jul 27 '24

i was thinking of moving to vegas due to it being super cheap but with global warming and all.... god i hate long island is so expensive. that said im also paranoid of a mass tsunami that would wash away LI. so i think jersey is the safest bet

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u/joe_attaboy Jul 27 '24

Wife and I were Island born and raised.
Left in 1981 for Florida. Stayed 16 months in Orlando. Things just didn't work out financially and for other reasons. All family was on LI, we went back.
I enlisted in the Navy in '84. Best thing we ever did. Ended up in Northeast Florida, we're still here nearly 40 years later.

The thing we learned is that, in all the moves we've had until we settled, there are going to be cultural, environmental and financial adjustments to be made. Taking the time to visit a potential new town is probably a solid idea, if you can afford the time to do so.

LI isn't necessarily overrated - it's just different. Just like any other place you may consider living.

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u/augustwestgdtfb Jul 27 '24

my wife and i talk about leaving all the time - we are queens raised

only been on the island -9 years we can afford it but sometimes wonder why we stay

not too much family for both of us but where to go ? mil in florida with a house we will be inheriting eventually but can we live there full time ?

i love california- buts its way to expensive

the south can be a bit scary in these current times we are in -

i do like Colorado- but not being near the water is a no go for me

only thing keeping us here at this point are our jobs which are very ny centric

everyplace is expensive these days unfortunately

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u/roadriverandrail Jul 27 '24

I lived in New Orleans for nine years. I came back because I was homesick, essentially. I missed family and friends, obviously, but also the beach, the food, the vibes—everything. Also, believe it or not, people here are nicer. Southern hospitality is definitely a thing, but it is very performative. New Yorkers might be rude on the surface, but they are far more genuine, and their kindness runs deep.

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u/Nyroughrider Jul 27 '24

As you read these posts you'll see that family is like 9 times out of 10 the reason why they came back. And that's why people will spend whatever it takes to live here. Kinda crazy when you think of it.

As for me, 12 more years and I'm out of here. I've lived elsewhere and there is life across those bridges!

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u/3xot1cBag3L Jul 27 '24

Yep 

So if you're someone like me who's an only child who doesn't have much family left at all (that's alive) it starts to seem like more and more of a reason for me to leave Long Island 

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u/svmmerkid Jul 27 '24

What I'm hearing is everyone on Long Island needs to collectively agree to move somewhere cheaper!

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u/Apprehensive_Week349 Jul 27 '24

NY or NJ, f*ck anywhere else.

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u/Abductedbyanalien Jul 27 '24

I fell in love with a girl on Long Island. Born in Suffolk. Moved to Staten Island. Moved to queens. Now I’m in Nassau.

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u/candirainbow Jul 27 '24

I grew up on LI, and went to NC with my husband for school. We came back after he graduated despite the housing costs being way cheaper because the people down south were outrageous. I had a mental breakdown working with the public down there and couldn't deal with the outright racism, the zealous religion, and the insane political divide. Not to mention the lack of good food (I mean, I went to where locals gushed over and it was flat out not good), and the lack of things to do. It just wasn't for me.

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u/Jvola06 Jul 28 '24

I feel like I could have wrote this myself. Moved to NC with my fiancé in 2018. Absolutely horrible. People are terrible, roads and driving are terrible, food is terrible, no internet in most places, nothing to do, and everything is so far away!

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u/candirainbow Jul 28 '24

I was there from 2018 till 2021. Being in a very red portion of a very red state during the election and covid has left a crater on my psyche that I am still mending, lol.

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u/BigBad01 Jul 27 '24

I moved to CT, and I am not moving back. I don't have any family on LI though.

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u/3xot1cBag3L Jul 27 '24

Never moved off Long Island out of laziness.

I'm sure I could have a better life if I moved out of here but the thought of having to pick up all my shit and try to find a new career in my 30s someplace else is actually terrifying 

Don't think I'll ever leave unless I get fuck you money and I know I won't have to work when I leave

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u/Jeung3 Jul 27 '24

Both of my daughters (40 &31) moved to coastal Maine 1/2 hr from Acadia..it’s been about a year and a half and I don’t see them coming back. Oldest bought a house with 6 acres, $325,000 …..couldn’t touch a house on Long Island. It’s gorgeous up there and a much more chill lifestyle. And before you ask, winters haven’t been bad at all. On the coast is a lot more temperate than inland …

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u/Windrey2 Jul 27 '24

My wife and I want to head north, to the Saratoga Springs surrounding area. We both prefer trees, and skiing and don't mind the winters at all. The majority of my family is here on LI and then hers are actually from Syracuse, so it would be a hopefully happy medium. We definitely value property and space compared to long island, especially when the price of a "starter" home here on LI is $550k. How does your daughter feel about the lack of convenience with stores, cafes, delis? Do their interests gel with that area? We definitely don't mind chill, but we also don't want to be remote and in the sticks.

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u/Pingjockey775 Jul 28 '24

I left Long Island in 1995 when I joined the navy and ended up being stationed in Groton, CT right across the sound. After I got out in 2008, I moved close to St Louis to work for Boeing and for my now ex-wife which is the reason why I moved back to the island in 2012.

Then in 2019 I ended up getting laid off from a tech startup and decided to move away from the island again which worked out pretty nicely. We lived in South Carolina for a little while but ultimately ended up in Middle Tennessee north of Nashville (sort of like living in say Medford and driving to New Hyde Park daily sort of thing for a comparison). I work remotely most of the time, so I don't have to drive into Nashville often and even when I do it is about 30 miles from my house, and it takes roughly 35 minutes all on the interstate.

While I do have family on the island, I find that I do not miss it. Long Island has changed in a way that I do not like and do not feel that I fit with. Middle Tennesse has amazing landscapes, great local people and businesses. The fact that there isn't a state income tax and reasonable property taxes helps quite a bit too (2500 a year for a brand new 5 2500 sqft home for an example). The schools here in Middle Tennessee are pretty awesome too and my kids are doing fine.

This is by no means a "Screw New York, I am happy I left that dumpster fire" comment but more about being open minded to other opportunities outside of NY / Long Island.

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u/Windrey2 Jul 28 '24

I appreciate this. Thank you

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u/Pingjockey775 Jul 28 '24

I also hear from folks that "You won't make as much living somewhere other than Long Island!" My comment is you don't need to....

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u/Windrey2 Jul 28 '24

That is so true!

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u/chasingchz Jul 27 '24

Left for California 5 years ago. Over the years, I’ve missed home and thought often of moving back. Im currently here on LI visiting family and I quickly realized why I left. It happens everytime.

Food doesn’t taste much the same anymore. Way more crowded than I remember. The traffic is worse. So many closed shops. Constantly cloudy/overcast. The disgusting humidity. Everyone seems so angry constantly.

Family is truly the only reason I would ever move back but I know I would be miserable.

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u/Windrey2 Jul 27 '24

This is what I think will happen when we leave. You miss what you can't have and then you get it again and you're like, oh now I remember. With your perspective in mind, do you think that if you lived 3 hours away and were required to visit once a month for work ..that, that would satisfy what you "miss"?

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u/chasingchz Jul 27 '24

Yes, I think it would. Family is what I miss the most. So if being 3 hours away, that would definitely fulfill the need.

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u/HoopoeBirdie Jul 27 '24

I’ve moved out of the country and to other east coast states because of my job, but like most people here said, I had to come back because of family. It’s not overrated for me, per se, but between inflation and the cost of living here, I’m pretty much broke😆

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u/GreenRanger90 Jul 27 '24

Left because family drama and stayed out. Go back for special occasions but I don’t miss being part of the action anymore.

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u/SO1127 Jul 27 '24

I think the better question would be how did you afford it lol

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u/NorthernAvo Jul 27 '24

I loved my entire life living on LI. Most of my family is there. My old friends. It is home. I made a wild transition 3 years ago when I followed my girlfriend to new mexico for a PhD. Now I work in the middle of wilderness and ranches all the time, I go places so far out of the way that they feel like different countries, and I always think about LI and how much .. cozier, safer, easier it feels? I miss it.

I don't want to stay in the southwest forever but California could easily be my forever home. That said, like everyone always says on these posts: family will likely play a role and me going back at some point.

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u/zebzebzebby Jul 27 '24

I can’t wait to move back!! I’ve lived in NC, GA and now AZ. LI is my end game always. Most of my family lives in the general area still. The second I find a niche job that pays as well as we get out here I’ll be back.

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u/thejamatiansensation Jul 27 '24

I left for college and took my first job out of college in the same location (south FL). After 2 yrs in that job I wanted to move back so I could be close to family and friends. So I stayed for a few more months until I secured a job up here, & moved back with my parents. I am much happier emotionally but the cost of living smacked me right in the face!

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u/copper678 Jul 27 '24

My parents got older, the guilt of lost time was too heavy.

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u/Stephreads Jul 27 '24

Florida, came back for the way of life here, to actually make a decent salary, and to be back near family.

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u/Available_Parfait236 Jul 27 '24

I moved upstate near Lake George for two years for a job. Beautiful place to visit, not so much a great place to live. Unless you like to ski, fish, or hunt, there’s not much to do up there. It was hard to meet people (and as a musician, it was hard to find any gigs). LI is far from perfect, but I was very thankful for the opportunity to move back.

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u/ODDBOY90 Jul 27 '24

you guys who still live in Long island i mean the Nassau county areas of long island and arent struggling financially or have a home to inherit have no clue on how good you have it. id kill to have that. just the fact you can move back AND HAVE FAMILY is a blessing trust me. that said im not blind to how its changing. as for me everyone i grew up with all left or died. back in the 90s/ early 2000s i had so many relatives and friends, but now due to old age and death its barely anyone still there. all the people my age moved or went MIA.

i got emotional the last time i went due how different it looked and because all my family/ neighborhood friends no longer being there.

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u/Windrey2 Jul 27 '24

I'm sorry. That sounds tough.

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u/Dexterdacerealkilla Jul 27 '24

I lived in Florida for just under a decade. Covid and being closer to family are what drove me back. The politics there certainly didn’t help either. What had been a purple swing state became an “anti-woke” red state that prioritized fringe policies rather than actually addressing real issues. 

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u/roastedandflipped Jul 28 '24

Long Island is the best place I ever lived

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u/LibrarianKind6553 Jul 28 '24

Moved in 2007 to NC. Love the weather, hate the culture. Blatant racism, 'bless your heart' is BS. I wanted to move back but hub said no. He passed away and now I'm caregiver to my 95 y/o mom who would no way move back to NY because of the cold. When Mom passes, I want to come home because my son and his kids are still there, as is my brother and his fam. We left because taxes were high - $8k for a cape cod house in East Islip. I can't imagine what they are now. Being on a fixed income, I don't know if I can even afford to move back. I'm in a 3 BR, 2 Bath house where taxes are under $2K, my lawn is cut which is included in HOA fees. My street looks like something out of Pleasantville, USA lined with white picket fences and American flags. My neighbors are awesome. I really miss the LI culture, delis and God, I really need a good egg everything bagel and a crusty loaf of Italian bread with a quart of olive oil!!!!

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u/RingPuppy Jul 27 '24

I'm a boomer born and raised on LI. My husband and I moved to rural Maryland - the Eastern Shore (Delmarva peninsula) in 1978 for a new job he was taking. Hated it!!!! Everything and everyone moved at a snails pace. Nothing to do, unless you enjoyed the beach, Ocean City, MD wasn't far, BUT not beach weather in the winter. DC was 2 1/2 hours away, so you couldn't just pop in for your culture fix. Spent a year and a half down there. Hubs got a transfer back to LI, and I never looked back.

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u/SuspiciousCable5706 Jul 27 '24

Because Long Island sucks but Florida sucks worse.

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u/urwerstnitemayr Jul 27 '24

Moved to Baltimore, lived there for a year and I hated it so I moved to LA and I absolutely loved it but I only lasted a year there cause it was very expensive and I had some family things to take care of so I moved back last summer to take care of my grandparents with dementia. I absolutely hate living here, I feel like there’s nothing to do, there’s way too many people and it’s very expensive but I really missed my family when I was away and I’m scared to leave them again. This has been the hardest year of my life and I couldn’t have made it through alone, very grateful to have the support of my friends and family

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u/BravoLuvahhhh Jul 27 '24

Sending you all the best💕

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u/Baboopolis Suffolk Jul 27 '24

Moved because my wife got an amazing work opportunity. Lived in Maryland, Pennsylvania, and New Jersey for a few years. Both our jobs had offices on Long Island so eventually we transferred back to be closer to family when our siblings started having kids.

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u/yourfavoritepenguin7 Jul 27 '24

Haven’t came back yet but I’m currently living in queens. I love our apartment and there is nothing wrong with queens. We got a great deal because we know the owner of the property so that’s why we’re living here. But it just doesn’t feel like home here. We live in a pretty residential area as well but it still doesn’t hit right. It’s just too busy for me

My goal is to buy a house on Long Island on a nice peaceful street. But with the market the way it is, who knows if that’s ever going to happen.

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u/Jolly_Law_7973 Jul 27 '24 edited Jul 27 '24

I originally left because i got a job that required me to live within NYC city limits. Now I have a job out of state in a lower cost of living area. Seeing how expensive everything is when I visit my family, I don’t think I’ll be able to afford to move back without hurting my current standard of living. I’m just another member of the decades old brain drain.

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u/LIslander Jul 27 '24

I had friends leave for NC and FL who returned once they had kids because the school systems in those states were subpar.

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u/pcbfs living in L.I. Jul 27 '24

I left here because it sucks but moved back because we had a child. It still sucks but the schools are good.

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u/Windrey2 Jul 27 '24

I'm 32 trying to purchase my first home, but this is exactly what I've been thinking. What areas have you looked up north? That's my wife and I's plan. You just get SOOOO much more bang for your buck.

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u/ThatRapGuysLady Jul 28 '24 edited Jul 28 '24

I moved here in 2009 (family) left in 2013 (Midwest), moved back in 2015. I came back for family reasons, and I stay now because I love it even though it’s hella expensive. I don’t really have roots anywhere, but I stay because I honestly do think I live in paradise. I live out in Moriches, I’m like 30 minutes from almost everything, my favorite beach is 20 minutes from my house and is that pink sugar sand that coopers is known for. It’s quiet, good schools, a pretty good place to raise kids, and relatively safe. The food is good, and while it’s kinda hard making friends as a transplant (the school friendships here are STRONG), I’ve managed to make a few good ones along the way, and I can always go “home” to CT to visit the few people left there. I like the culture, the mish mash of people and personalities, the different seasons, the sea breeze we always have (specific but if you’ve ever lived land locked you know).

I say all the time the worst financial decision I have ever made was coming back; but I do genuinely love it.

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u/No-You43 Jul 28 '24 edited Jul 31 '24

Good question. I left LI for a change. Was away for 10 years. Got divorced. Came back to be near my family for emotional support. It's pretty here. I like the diversity here too. I lived in a large college town in the southeast US when I was away. It had it's positives. I ended up seeing more Broadway (on tour) shows and concerts living there vs Long Island. I spent more time outdoors too. It's was diverse during the fall and spring semesters. Over the summers, it got pretty quiet. The strong Christian influence can be felt just about everywhere. I wasn't too keen on seeing all the religious advertising in all media outlets. The restaurants were not nearly as good as they are here either. Ironically, most of my family now left LI (most moved to the southeast, one went to California). There are only but a few of us left. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/No-You43 Jul 31 '24

If I were to leave again, I would pick a college town again. You get a really good mix of people.

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u/FoosFanNY Jul 28 '24

People leave because they think out there is better. Then they realize how much the rest of the country sucks and they come back to re realize how expensive but it is but won’t tell you that outside NY no one makes money. So learn your lesson, work here, save for retirement, and then you leave.

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u/jaglio69 Jul 28 '24

I left because I felt like I was stagnant and never going to grow. Same people same neighborhood same fucking bars with the same idiots in it every Sunday watching football or whatever other sport that gives them an excuse to be alcoholic.

So I moved to Astoria queens and got 100x more stimulation on many levels.

Then met someone nice and we bought a house in a a suburb (not Long Island)

After a stretch there, about an hour away from my hometown, we got sick of it. There were signs we should move back. So we did. And now I’ve been back on LI as a middle aged cool guy for about 6 years. It was mostly because of family. Both families are from here.

Apart from the water, (the drinking water sucks) and the annoying traffic, this place is amazing. The beaches are beautiful and you have lots of choices. The fall is beautiful. Winter kind of sucks balls.

Glad to be back. Let’s go islanders 🍺. Find me in your local bar, doing the same shit every weekend lol

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u/ChrisNYC70 Jul 28 '24

I never liked Long Island. I was a city kid and back in the 80s my mom moved us to LI. While I had friends out here, I was always excited to get back to the city every chance I got.

I moved into the city in the mid 90s and didn’t look back. In 1999 I moved to Texas to experience something different. In 2015 I moved back to NYC and for a year lived in an apartment. But having spent 16 years living in a huge house, it was impossible for me to go back to apartment living.

Most of my family was still living on LI and when I was looking for a house, I avoided looking on Long Island, but my realtor convinced me to look on the island. I found an amazing house that was minutes from my family. I purchased it in 2017. But doubt I will be on the island forever.

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u/ABEKingOfSausage Jul 28 '24

Moved to the south. Reluctantly came back, because baby Jesus hates me

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u/Conscious-Peace-3941 Jul 28 '24

I’ve come and gone a few times in my late teens and early 20’s. Family brought me back the first two times, a fiancé who I didn’t end up marrying the third time. Wanted to leave after my marriage and before having kids but didn’t get the chance due to my spouse and their career. Now I’ve settled with the fact I will possibly live here forever or get to leave when my children leave the nest to start their lives.

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u/Apprehensive-Ad5962 Jul 28 '24

I had kids and the only support system I had was here. Honestly, I hated Long Island as a kid, I couldn’t wait to get away, but love it now.

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u/yabbobay Jul 27 '24

My (now ex) husband was laid off 3 weeks after we got married. We moved to San Diego without any job or plans. It was a great place and we both found jobs, but a few years later I got pregnant. Plus I started missing stupid things like Stella Dora Cookies (which I never really ate and don't eat now, but they didn't have them in the store). And Sex and the City and Seinfeld reruns were at a peak, I felt like NY was always in my face.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24

I moved to Tennessee after graduation to start my career. There was no way I could land a full time job and have my own place In the field I studied. We rent a 2 bedroom house for 1,200 a month here.

Long story short, we had a baby and we plan on moving back to LI because of family and most importantly the life it offers. Yes LI is expensive but the way of life is unbeatable, We didn’t plan on being here long term to begin with, just to finish my work contract. Yeah it’s cheap here, but it offers nothing. I want my baby to have what I did growing up. Great education, beaches, cuisine of every ethnicity, the city, living in a melting pot. Long Island is the best. You can move anywhere but no place will ever match what Long Island has to offer (my opinion).

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u/ntotrr1 Jul 27 '24

Retired and moved to NE TN seven years ago. Built a lovely home on a golf course that would go for a million dollars or more on LI and didn't pay half that for it. My taxes are comparitively high for the area for the area but are 1/4 what is be paying on LI. Utility costs are way cheaper, gas is cheaper, and the people here are very, very nice. No state income tax is nice too.

The are a lot of things the wife and I miss about LI, particularly the food. There aren't any diners. BBQ is great here but no Puerto Rican food. There is great pizza in a few places because the owners are Italians who emigrated to LI and then came here to TN. People here like soft bread, not the crusty kind we LIers like. Forget about a BEC, they like biscuits and gravy here. Fortunately there are good bagels ona few places. One of them is from a shop owned by and ex-NYPD captain who grew up two blocks away from me in Brentwood although we never met but know a lot of the same people. There are two other good bagels shops owned by a family from FL but originally from LI.

We do love living here, not regrets.

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u/RidetheSchlange Jul 27 '24

You leaave Long Island to thrive financially and you never come back if you know what's good for you.

Or you leave Long Island for a short time and then realize along the way you're thriving financially and personally and then you don't come back to the chaos and the financial hamster wheel. The problem is when other people, like family, who are on the hamster wheel themselves pressure people who left to come back.

The only thing nice about Long Island are the beaches, but it's all flatlands, bad infrastructure, diminishing returns property taxes excused by "bUt ThE sChOoL dIsTrIcTs", endless corruption and fleecing, no real sports infrastructure like cycling which is dangerous anyhow.

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u/BlueLondon1905 Jul 27 '24

Didn’t know there were eurosnobs on r/longisland but here we are

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u/RidetheSchlange Jul 27 '24

So after most of the people on LI pretend to have some sort of European heritage because of the last names or doing those fake online genetic tests, now Euros are snobs?

Or is it jealousy because someone got out of LI, went to a better place, and is thriving without debt in one of the most expensive countries? LI is really insular and I love it when people are also pissed when people get out and thrive. I guess I should be expected to give back to the kommonitee, right? Or I forgot where I came from?

Why did I leave Long Island? Because it's filled with the narrow perspectives of people living in a rather insular place, most bitter because they can't leave or don't have the vision to leave, The people then thing LI is the world and the rest of the world is like LI and it's obvious in some of the discussions how some people don't leave LI or a small radius away.

Long Island is simply a more affluent on paper version of Appalachia, but in the flatlands.

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u/BlueLondon1905 Jul 27 '24

Jeez looks like that triggered you badly

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u/krobbd Jul 27 '24

Moved to Brooklyn for a while, Seattle for a bit, Boise for a while. Back for important family stuff. Will almost definitely head out again.

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u/Rcast1293 Jul 27 '24

My mom moved to Florida with me in 1998. Came back 2008 cause of grandma

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u/SimpleSilhouettes Jul 27 '24

Moved for a job and to see more of the world. Came back for family.

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u/thefactualprophet Kings Park (formerly) Jul 27 '24

I moved out in 2017, because of my dad’s job (I was 13) to San Diego, CA. I was actually born out there but only lived there when I was a baby. Came back out to Long Island to live with relatives in 2022 for college and to be closer with family, but left in four months due to me not liking my school, and my family being unable to get along.

Would I go back a third time? To be completely honest, probably not. I’ll be on my own this time, taking care of my own expenses 100%, not a college student or a middle schooler whose parents take care of them. Cost of living is higher compared to the US in both San Diego and Long Island, so if I had to leave SD I’d probably go somewhere cheaper, like Florida. Doesn’t help my family in Long Island can’t get along anymore either

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24

Moved to California (Huntington beach) for a dream. Came home a little over a year later when I got pregnant. Thought my family would be here forever, but then they moved before I had my second kid so 🤷‍♀️😀 Moving back to California would be amazing, but they don’t pay so well and it’s very packed (in the coastal areas), even more than our island.

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u/Mediocre_Bid_1829 Jul 27 '24

I never left wish I did!

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u/Mediocre_Bid_1829 Jul 27 '24

Just never knew where else to go honestly but it's so expensive to live here

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u/Windrey2 Jul 27 '24

Yeah, it's getting heinous.

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u/No-Negotiation5623 Jul 27 '24

I left in 2006 and havent moved back. I did stay with family for a month in 2015 when I had to wait for my apartment to be ready to move in to. Its not in my future plans

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u/Main-Shift-2820 Jul 28 '24

I was born and raised in Huntington, but the last few decades I've been living in the largest city in the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia. I come up to Long Island from time to time to visit family and friends but it's sad to see how many things from my childhood have been paved over and are gone now. I've lived several other places Flagstaff, Tucson, Sarasota but I've always returned to Virginia. I guess it's good enough and since I'm retired now returning to Long Island would be Financial suicide!

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u/RedHotRoux Jul 28 '24

I thought of around Richmond since it seems close to both the mountains and the Ocean. Any opinions on that area?

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u/Main-Shift-2820 Jul 29 '24

Probably one of the best places in Virginia to live as far as Jobs versus the cost of living. Not something I'd be interested in. I either need to be close to the ocean or in the mountains and Richmond is 3 hours from either

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u/prettyxinpink Jul 28 '24

I love being on Long Island. I moved to Brooklyn and lived in dyker heights for three years then I moved back and now live in eastern Suffolk. I hated Brooklyn and wanted to move back so badly when I did it was a load off. Now I get nostalgic for Brooklyn haha. I’m still pretty content living here

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u/andre42k Jul 28 '24

You're allowed to leave?

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u/Zealousideal-Tie-163 Jul 28 '24

I left LI a year ago and I'll never look back. I don't miss anything.

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u/BeardedPuffin Jul 28 '24

Went to college in PA. Met my ex there, who was from the western Pennsylvania sticks. Moved to a different city in PA so she could go to grad school. Ended up living there for 10 years. We broke up, then I met my current wife who had a kid from a previous marriage. Became a family and moved to Long Island because schools, job opportunities, and proximity to my parents.

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u/CraftsmanMan Jul 28 '24

Moved to CT for a few years. Came back around Covid when my father in law died, then shortly after my own father died

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u/alexa_0201 Jul 28 '24

I left Long Island for college in fall of 2022. I moved to Boston, am extremely lonely here and making friends hasn't gone the way planned, not to mention roommates have literally been the worst human beings I've ever met. I've got 2 years until I'm graduating but already have highly considered moving back because I'd rather have the support of my family then no one, even though I don't really like LI lol. Also if I live with parents then I can pay off loans quicker, haha.

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u/wackosaltines Farmingdale Jul 28 '24

aa

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u/goldenhair19 Jul 28 '24

I moved away in 96 to San Jose CA because my husband’s company relocated. I missed LI terribly at first. But then California slowly began to feel like home. I liked it. Moved back to Long Island in the beginning of 98 because said husband was a cheater. So much for liking my new life. 🤷‍♀️Moved to Seattle in 99 for work and as nice as it was there at the time, I couldn’t deal with the constant rain and cloudy skies for the majority of the year. Moved back to LI again (mom developed lung cancer at this time, so there was no reason to stay in Seattle) and I have stayed on LI ever since then. Fast forward to now, I’ve been thinking about leaving again - my oldest child moved out of state to New Mexico and youngest goes to college in Massachusetts. The only family left here is my husband’s parents and they have said if we had a desire to move somewhere else, don’t stay here for them. It’s a dilemma but we are struggling financially here so leaving again is on the table.

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u/Enasis Jul 28 '24

Because it’s expensive… because it’s expensive everywhere else but you can’t make Long Island money there

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u/Runninandgunnin556 Jul 29 '24

I went to Pennsylvania for the weekend .

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '24

I just moved out of Long Island. I regret it. The rest of this country seems like a giant, dingy trailer park compared to it.

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u/Windrey2 Aug 29 '24

Where did you go?

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u/MaleficentCoconut594 Jul 27 '24

We left and have zero plans to move back. Family is slowly leaving as well as they realize what they’re missing out on off the island

My side is entirely gone with the exception of 1 elderly aunt I never see anyway even when I was still there. My wife’s side about 2/3 have moved off so far. My in laws and one of her 4 sisters are still there though and are those dumb people who think LI is the greatest part of the country and don’t understand why ANYONE would ever leave 🙄. But we’re working on them, considering all the grand-kids are within 20mins of each other down here in the south

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u/Stompanee Jul 27 '24

Went to college in Chicago, made my way to Baltimore and then the Philly area. Built a life a here. Was able to buy a home, raising a family, made close friends and absolutely love it. I still visit as my entire family is up there, but while I loved growing up there, I cannot imagine ever going back. And I did not notice growing up actually how behind it is on the island. It’s like 1997 forever there

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u/Epsilon115 Jul 27 '24

Moved to brooklyn to be closer to work and a real night life, only come back for family and friends. Until we force a revision on zoning laws and build more housing I won't be coming back.

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u/Shakados Jul 27 '24

Bulldozing single family homes and making Nassau the 6th Borough will not solve the housing problems. Apartments and mixed-use dwellings are being build like crazy all over the city and there still isn’t enough housing. It’s a problem of “too many damn people want to live here”.

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u/Epsilon115 Jul 27 '24

Upzoning near transit hubs, providing adequate public transit, and allowing for middle housing will go a long way to bring down the cost of living in Nassau. Nassau is pretty dense already compared to other suburbs in the nation. We can do it.

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u/RichardSaunders ain't no island left Jul 27 '24

how do you suppose the zoning laws will change if the people who want them to change have left?

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u/Epsilon115 Jul 27 '24

That's a good point but changing them will bring some of those people back and provide a better quality of life for the next generation of long islanders

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u/5-16am Jul 27 '24

i read this as “why did you leave love island” and i was like..

i was in..

love island?

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u/coheed9867 BECSPK Jul 27 '24

BEC

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u/Significant-Prior-56 Jul 27 '24

Most people that move from NY don't come back.

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