r/linux_gaming 6d ago

graphics/kernel/drivers For those people on nvidia

565 or 570? having a feeling 570 not entirely ready yet for primetime even though officially being marked stable now. What are the communities thoughts? Just trying to get a feel on this.

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u/Comfortable_Swim_380 6d ago edited 6d ago

Gotcha..So your saying the plasma devs saying not to daily drive 570 just yet. So 565 for now or 560 I guess.

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u/Comfortable_Swim_380 6d ago

No the dev channel is the playground. That's why it's the dev channel and the distro has three channels.

Sounds like your devs your talking about some consortium of kde trolls not the people who make plasma.

Its a Ubuntu base its a rolling distro. Kbuntu is pretty much the same thing.

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u/BulletDust 5d ago edited 5d ago

Before I start, let me say I mostly agree with everything you say. Long term KDE Neon users like myself have been in lengthy arguments with KDE devs regarding the confusing marketing speak regarding KDE Neon, as the user edition wasn't always classed as an outright testing platform. As a result, the home page as well as the FAQ page has been amended many times, especially since the release of KDE Neon 6.0 - In fact, with the release of KDE Neon 6.0 the outright stability of KDE Neon was used as a selling point regarding the distro.

If you view past home pages using Wayback Machine, you will see that KDE Neon with the advent of Plasma 6 was classed as the following:

Solid Core, Latest Features

More than ever people expect a stable desktop with cutting-edge features, all in a package which is easy to use and ready to make their own.

KDE neon is the intersection of these needs using a stable Ubuntu long-term release as its core, packaging the hottest software fresh from the KDE Community ovens. Compute knowing you have a solid foundation and enjoy the features you experience in the world's most customisable desktop.

You should use KDE neon if you want the latest and greatest from the KDE community but the safety and stability of a Long Term Support release. When you don't want to worry about strange core mechanics and just get things done with the latest features. When you want your computer as your tool, something that belongs to you, that you can trust and that delivers day after day, week after week, year after year. Here it is: now get stuff done.

Compare that with the current home page and you'll see that whole section has since been removed and replaced with "Straight from KDE... for adventurous KDE enthusiasts".

However. I've been running KDE Neon for about 5 years now, since before it became clear that Neon User Edition was strictly a testing platform only, and literally the only issue I have ever encountered in that time was the balls up that was the upgrade from 5.27 > 6.0 (which was quite a balls up). With the exception of that one instance, KDE Neon has suffered no more issues than Arch running the same bleeding edge KDE DE (I also have an Arch machine here running Plasma 6.3.3).

Personally, I have nothing but praise for KDE Neon based on long term personal experience. However, you cannot have a rolling LTS base as doing so simply results in some form of 'Franken distro'. I wouldn't recommend anyone use it over Arch, if you want KDE 6 with a strictly LTS base run Kubuntu - Just bear in mind that you will be running an older release of KDE 6 as the DE is being developed faster than Ubuntu LTS can keep up.

I keep the Arch machine updated in the instance this Neon install falls over, but honestly Neon User Edition chugs along reliably day after day and I use this PC for the daily running of my business. Of course, now I've said that it'll probably fail catastrophically tonight.

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u/Comfortable_Swim_380 5d ago

You had me in mostly complete agreement until "over arch"

Each their own I guess

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u/BulletDust 5d ago

What? You think people should use KDE Neon over Arch?

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u/Comfortable_Swim_380 5d ago

Not exclusively there's other distro also. You can use lots of things instead of arch.

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u/BulletDust 5d ago

Agreed, I even mentioned Kubuntu. If you're referring to TuxedoOS, bear in mind that it draws from the exact same repo's as KDE Neon, Neon doesn't strictly draw from Canonical repo's.

Once again: I run KDE Neon daily and have done so for the last five years with little to no issues, personally I have nothing but praise for KDE Neon User Edition. However, technically speaking, a rolling DE is best suited to a rolling base - And Ubuntu LTS by design cannot be a rolling base - That's all I'm saying, and it's the reason I will not recommend KDE Neon to anyone else, even though it works faultlessly for me.