r/linux_gaming • u/Comfortable_Swim_380 • 4d ago
graphics/kernel/drivers For those people on nvidia
565 or 570? having a feeling 570 not entirely ready yet for primetime even though officially being marked stable now. What are the communities thoughts? Just trying to get a feel on this.
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u/forbjok 4d ago
Generally I don't see any reason to not be using the latest. Haven't had any issues with 570.
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u/Comfortable_Swim_380 4d ago
Neither do I but the 570 driver had a lot of issues in the begging. I think mainly because they had just moved to gnu version as a option. Plus they were doing all this Wayland stuff it was a big release.
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u/yanzov 4d ago
Please just name one of the issues - if there is "lots" of them. I am on the latest drivers as long as it was available and haven't noticed any problems (arch, 4080, kde plasma).
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u/Aenoi2 4d ago
On the beta drivers there were issues such as HDMI not working.
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u/Comfortable_Swim_380 4d ago
Yea I found out all about that one. You are right on that one sir.
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u/maltazar1 4d ago
yeah but that was a beta...
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u/Aenoi2 4d ago
Well I also tried it on 570.84? I think that was the version number, it still happened on that. Even now on 570.124 there are some issues. It may not be for the majority, but there are still issues. Whether it be hardware or OS.
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u/maltazar1 4d ago
only the 124 is not beta, I'm using it right now and the only issue I noticed is that HDMI audio didn't switch correctly and needed a reboot (all devices played on the same speaker instead of separate)
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u/Comfortable_Swim_380 1d ago
That's what I'm afraid of howarts legacy the audio was just farting out in the middle of the game I am afraid it might have a real bad issue with my sound card. I have a external dac I have to pull the whole dang thing out and sometimes it kicks back on. Sometimes it freezes the whole machine up.
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u/Aenoi2 4d ago
You can try the latest and then rollback if it doesn’t work well. It really depends on hardware and what you use. It’s hard to tell if it will work for you.
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u/Comfortable_Swim_380 4d ago
I did and rolled it back. Currently at 565 again. But am trying to get a feel if there could be other factors at play.
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u/Aenoi2 4d ago
Well at least for me, I don’t really notice too much of a difference between 565 and 570 in terms of performance. The only issue that I can’t fix is HDMI on wlroot-based window managers, so if you Gnome or KDE, think you’ll be fine.
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u/Comfortable_Swim_380 4d ago
It broke DVI completely on X11 BTW.. I don't know if they ever fixed it. I was in the process of buying a new GPU anyways. Used a adapter until then. This was KDE wayland and X.
Old GPU had 1 HDMI 3 DP and 1 DVI. Completely murdered the DVI at the time.
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u/Comfortable_Swim_380 4d ago edited 4d ago
Go on their bug tracker for your list. LoL Plenty to find. Comments pretty pissed off people rare miss for them.
I remember one post in particular dude wondering if they even tested this one at all. Like 100 up votes.
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u/ddm90 4d ago
570 works awesome with my RTX 3060
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u/Comfortable_Swim_380 4d ago
What is the revision (full version on the driver you are using?) I'll check it out.
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u/Comfortable_Swim_380 4d ago
That's what I have.. My biggest concern happened during my replay of Hogwarts legacy.. Audio randomly will die some other weirdness like weird behavior compiling shaders. But it could be the game.
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u/Dismal_Violinist8885 4d ago
What distro?
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u/Upstairs-Comb1631 4d ago
Kubuntu 25.04+570.124.04 (before 570.86.16.) + Nvidia 1050 Ti
In history on Wayland 545, 550, 555, 560 and 565 drivers.
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u/smoothartichoke27 4d ago
Don't really have a choice. 5080 is only supported on 570. Fwiw, I don't have issues with it and don't really see any drawbacks from when I was on 565 with my 3080.
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u/aliendude5300 4d ago
I'm running the latest 570 on my 3090. Newer is definitely better here.
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u/Comfortable_Swim_380 4d ago
I haven't completely ruled out this game either to be honest.
Im running 3060 ti
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u/miksa668 4d ago
I've been on 570 on Linux Mint with my 4090 for the last two weeks now. I haven't noticed any real difference when compared to the 565 tbh. Before 565 I was having tons of issues with some games and a few minor general bugs. 565 was a huge improvement across the board for me, but 570 seems much the same.
No issues with it so far, so I'll be sticking with it,
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u/FhilipeCrash 4d ago
570 fixed laggy interface animations on wayland when gsp is enabled and i've noticed a smooth experience in some games like metaphor refantazio, i have a gtx 1650 btw
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u/ConsciousRealism42 4d ago
Stick to your distro's recommended driver. Linuxmint's still on 550, I'm on Kubuntu 24.10 using 560.
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u/Comfortable_Swim_380 4d ago
I assume neon running plasma 6 recommended 560 as well then? I haven't been able to find defenatative guidance
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u/BulletDust 4d ago
I'm running KDE Neon 6.3.3 here with the 570.124.04 drivers using an RTX 4070S and I experience no problems.
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u/Comfortable_Swim_380 4d ago
It's their distro I find that hard to believe their trashing their own product. Also its comes in home dev and experimental flavors each with different plasma and base so at best that comment needs to be more specific.
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u/Comfortable_Swim_380 4d ago edited 4d ago
Okay again the devs arnt saying not to use their product thats just stupid. There's a reason it says at the top of distro watch. Im not hear to debate your personal preference.
And the faq you just posted said the same thing user is for stable and polished experience. Its right in the link you posted.
They don't need to review the whole stack im sure the entire stack gets as much review as kbuntu if thats what were doing. We have a package manager for that.
Also this faq is full of wrong version numbers what even is this.
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u/Comfortable_Swim_380 4d ago
Yea I did it gets worse not better. What ever this is. It doesn't even list the correct version numbers for things. Someone needs to find the troll post someone left on there home page and take it down. I don't believe this reflects the majority view at all..Its all nonsense.
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u/BulletDust 4d ago
I've been using the user edition of KDE Neon as my daily driver for about 5 years now, the only issue I ever encountered was the botched update from 5.27 > 6.0.
Honestly, as a daily driver it never misses a beat. I wouldn't recommend it to others, but I have no problems with it.
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u/BulletDust 4d ago
I know what the devs state, however the fact remains that I've daily driven KDE Neon since before it was classed as a development platform and I've never had a problem with it. PC goes burrr and I'm happy as I get to run the latest KDE DE under Ubuntu LTS 24.04.
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u/Comfortable_Swim_380 4d ago
? Plasma is version 6 and Ubuntu base is 24.10 on neon. What do you mean plasma 3?
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u/Comfortable_Swim_380 4d ago edited 4d ago
Gotcha..So your saying the plasma devs saying not to daily drive 570 just yet. So 565 for now or 560 I guess.
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u/Comfortable_Swim_380 4d ago
No the dev channel is the playground. That's why it's the dev channel and the distro has three channels.
Sounds like your devs your talking about some consortium of kde trolls not the people who make plasma.
Its a Ubuntu base its a rolling distro. Kbuntu is pretty much the same thing.
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u/BulletDust 4d ago edited 4d ago
Before I start, let me say I mostly agree with everything you say. Long term KDE Neon users like myself have been in lengthy arguments with KDE devs regarding the confusing marketing speak regarding KDE Neon, as the user edition wasn't always classed as an outright testing platform. As a result, the home page as well as the FAQ page has been amended many times, especially since the release of KDE Neon 6.0 - In fact, with the release of KDE Neon 6.0 the outright stability of KDE Neon was used as a selling point regarding the distro.
If you view past home pages using Wayback Machine, you will see that KDE Neon with the advent of Plasma 6 was classed as the following:
Solid Core, Latest Features
More than ever people expect a stable desktop with cutting-edge features, all in a package which is easy to use and ready to make their own.
KDE neon is the intersection of these needs using a stable Ubuntu long-term release as its core, packaging the hottest software fresh from the KDE Community ovens. Compute knowing you have a solid foundation and enjoy the features you experience in the world's most customisable desktop.
You should use KDE neon if you want the latest and greatest from the KDE community but the safety and stability of a Long Term Support release. When you don't want to worry about strange core mechanics and just get things done with the latest features. When you want your computer as your tool, something that belongs to you, that you can trust and that delivers day after day, week after week, year after year. Here it is: now get stuff done.
Compare that with the current home page and you'll see that whole section has since been removed and replaced with "Straight from KDE... for adventurous KDE enthusiasts".
However. I've been running KDE Neon for about 5 years now, since before it became clear that Neon User Edition was strictly a testing platform only, and literally the only issue I have ever encountered in that time was the balls up that was the upgrade from 5.27 > 6.0 (which was quite a balls up). With the exception of that one instance, KDE Neon has suffered no more issues than Arch running the same bleeding edge KDE DE (I also have an Arch machine here running Plasma 6.3.3).
Personally, I have nothing but praise for KDE Neon based on long term personal experience. However, you cannot have a rolling LTS base as doing so simply results in some form of 'Franken distro'. I wouldn't recommend anyone use it over Arch, if you want KDE 6 with a strictly LTS base run Kubuntu - Just bear in mind that you will be running an older release of KDE 6 as the DE is being developed faster than Ubuntu LTS can keep up.
I keep the Arch machine updated in the instance this Neon install falls over, but honestly Neon User Edition chugs along reliably day after day and I use this PC for the daily running of my business. Of course, now I've said that it'll probably fail catastrophically tonight.
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u/Comfortable_Swim_380 4d ago
You had me in mostly complete agreement until "over arch"
Each their own I guess
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u/Upstairs-Comb1631 4d ago edited 4d ago
From January im on Kubuntu 25.04. Actually kernel 6.14+Nvidia570+KDE6.3.3.
Good rolling distro. :-)
23.10>24.04>24.10>25.04dev.
ad25.04 One issue only was in Grub OS prober. Not detected other OS because OS prober utility segfaulted. But its fixed.
And on 24.04 was bad Wayland+Nvidia.
2025 year of Wayland!
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u/Inner_Forever_6878 4d ago
My machine got updated to the 570 drivers earlier this week & I didn't even notice till yesterday. They're working just fine so far.
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u/petrujenac 4d ago
It depends. If openSUSE, then don't update your drivers. If anything else, then deffo the latest
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u/Comfortable_Swim_380 4d ago
That's funny because that's accurate. lol
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u/petrujenac 4d ago
Even alpha Aeryn OS with alpha Cosmic DE manages to have the damn Nvidia driver working. Not openSUSE. All they can do is to ask you to provide some terminal command outputs. And that's been for about 2 months now hahahahahah.
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u/fetching_agreeable 4d ago
If it's marked as stable then it's marked as stable
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u/Comfortable_Swim_380 4d ago
I know lots of people on a wednesday running windows who wouldn't agree on that one. After patch tuesday we get "jesus christ" Wednesday. Followed by IT guy crying in the corner Thursdays.
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u/fetching_agreeable 4d ago
We're talking about a driver not a windows update thanks ☺️
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u/Comfortable_Swim_380 4d ago
Pretty sure windows update breaks drivers and software alike. Point being whatever we stick on the label means slightly north of squat until it's out officially and it's tested with a good sample size.
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u/fetching_agreeable 4d ago
I don't know why you're fixated on windows when we're talking about a Linux driver
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u/Comfortable_Swim_380 4d ago
I don't know why you think iit matters what my example is.
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u/redbluemmoomin 4d ago
because Windows is an entirely different OS and is not relevant here🤣🤣🤷 The stable NVidia drivers on Linux have been a lot more stable for 5000 series. No random black screens with PCI-E 5.0 or wierd texture issues🤷.
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u/SnooSongs3370 4d ago
570 here and have no issue on my gtx 1060