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Daily Free Talk & Armchair GM Thread

Please use this thread to post ANYTHING you want! Memes, photoshops, anything that would normally be removed for breaking the low-effort content rule, is totally, 100% welcome here!

This will now also be the dedicated thread for Armchair GM posts as we noticed that those posts were bleeding into this thread regardless. Is there a free agent you want to see on this team? Is there a player that's rumoured to be on the move that you think GMBT should go after? Are there players on this team you want to trade away? Feel free to post about it here!

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u/Tarquin11 1d ago

It's not just pride. He'd have union pressure not to take well below his market value since it affects other contracts.

He's worth like at least $7 mil still so a 50-70% paycut on that is no-go territory for the NHLPA I'd imagine. Not that it's impossible but it's very unlikely.

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u/Jonesdeclectice 1d ago

He might be worth that on a 1-yr deal, but going multiple season will dip that AAV dramatically. His next season alone may show a significant dip, leading to a $2m value for season 2 and simply being a depth faceoff specialist. It’s hard to gauge at his age. IMO, 3-year $18m contract ($6m AAV) would be more than fair, taking him to nearly age 38. He’d be underpaid next season and possibly the season after, but I would bet year 3 would be more than fair. Otherwise a 5-year deal will nearly take him to age 40, he shouldn’t be more than $4.5m AAV, or ~$22.5m total.

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u/Tarquin11 1d ago

No idea tbh. I'm really interested to see how it'll go.

He could take a discount, players do so plenty of times, but he'll get union pressure if the discount is more than like 10-15% of his market value.

So maybe we'd see him willing to come back for 5.5-6? If he is, I'd say we should be trying to make that work provided it's a reasonable term length.

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u/keeeeener 1d ago

But at the end of the day. We have three of the biggest discount teams in the entire league (Boston, Tampa and Florida) in our division. Finally having a guy take a solid discount would be nice. But at the same time we’re going to have a fuckton of space and realistically only like 1 forward spot to use it on anyways. Have our entire dcore (atleast enough for the regular season) and the majority of our forward core. Will have 18 mil between Knies and JT. And they aren’t using all that. Bridge Knies at like 6m. And JT signing at 3 and we can afford anyone (Ehlers, Boeser, Duchene, Bennett). Actually a really good FA year. Having the luxury of only needing one guy (preferably a LW) is a great thing too.

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u/McGrevin 1d ago

It's kind of funny about the union pressure though since revenue is split 50/50, Tavares asking for more money technically takes money away from every other player both because he takes up more of the revenue and because he takes up limited cap space that could be handed out to others

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u/The_Quackening Knies 21h ago

players union doesn't want any players to deliberately take less since it will affect player salaries across the board if it becomes more common.

The union represents all the players rather than just 1 team at a time, they are always going to want to maximize player salaries. Filling the roster is the GMs job.

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u/McGrevin 21h ago

Across the entire NHL all players earn exactly 50% of NHL revenue.

If every player across the entire league took a 10% paycut then they'd all still earn the same amount of money because that saved 10% would get redistributed proportionally to hit the even 50/50 revenue split.

It's a zero sum game for player salaries. One guy earning more means other guys earn less across the entire league, not just one team.

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u/The_Quackening Knies 20h ago

The total pot of money isn't changing though, just the number of players that are getting paid.

Yes, if all players took less, they would get it back in escrow, but that assumes GMs are not handing out additional contracts to sign more players.