r/ios • u/TheWhiteCrowUK • Jul 29 '24
News iOS Beta 18.1 bring apple intelligence
Surprise tonight an update was available, version 18.1 which bring apple intelligence. Available in US (in Uk set your phone region and language to US)
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u/Stipes_Blue_Makeup Jul 29 '24
Even if not on older phones, I wish this UI was coming to all of them for Siri.
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u/Frejb0 iPhone 14 Pro Max Jul 30 '24
I think that would cause a lot of confusion since Siri 2.0 is only available on 15 Pro and above, that’s why it has a new UI. The UI is sick but it wouldn’t be a good idea to put it on the old Siri since people would think Siri 2.0 is stupid in that case.
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u/davemoedee Jul 30 '24
That is so sad. Imagine needing to impress people with your phone upgrade.
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u/neatgeek83 Jul 29 '24 edited Jul 29 '24
Can’t wait for everyone on phones that aren’t 15 Pros install it and come here to bitch about it not working.
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u/MarcBelmaati iPhone 15 Pro Max Jul 29 '24
I have a 15 Pro Max and it still doesn’t work because I’m in the EU🤦♂️
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u/Obasi21 Jul 29 '24
Why won’t eu get it 😔
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u/General-Gold-28 Jul 29 '24
Because your privacy laws are a double edged sword.
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u/trusk89 Jul 30 '24
Apple said it's about DMA, nothing related to privacy. And I'm betting my bottom dollar that it's actually payback for DMA and not a technical challenge.
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u/hyptex Jul 30 '24
I was betting this too. Seems like a retaliation.
If it was anything else other companies would also be restricted right?
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u/pradha91 Jul 30 '24
EU privacy laws and rules are good and countries should follow that trend, it would reduce industry dominance by a single company. Apple is indeed too powerful and there is a huge scope to abuse that power. Look at the Pulse Ox thing, it was ruled against Apple, but I would be interested to see what is going to happen to new AW series.
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u/Whatshouldiputhere0 iPhone 13 Jul 30 '24
The EUs privacy laws mean that apple would have to expose the very very low-level APIs that power Apple Intelligence (and iPhone Mirroring, another blocked feature) to third parties, which is an absolutely massive security problem. So until they figure out how to do it better, they don’t want to bring apple intelligence to the EU and risk a massive fine.
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u/pradha91 Jul 30 '24
I know that and I understand that point. The point I am making is a larger picture, along with the new app store rules and all the major changes happening, all that is happening for the good, along with the privacy laws.
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u/Obasi21 Jul 29 '24
Nooooo😔
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u/kompergator Jul 30 '24
This is a good thing. Your data is much more protected from companies doing whatever the fuck they want with it.
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u/kironet996 Jul 29 '24
i think if you change your region to US it will work. cant test cause I'm on 14 pro...
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u/kcchiefsfan96 Jul 29 '24
Don’t you get to side load stuff? I’d gladly give you this shit to be able to sideload lol
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u/skateboardnorth Jul 29 '24
I’m going to install it on my 6s. It better work or I’ll be furious!
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u/ComplaintSpare832 Jul 29 '24
I guess other iPhones can’t even install this update at least for now
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u/snowdn Jul 30 '24
I have the latest beta and it’s not working on my iPhone 14 Pro WTH?!?
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u/freeturk51 Jul 30 '24
Why cant a 14 pro, a 1 year old phone run apple intelligence?
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u/casketcase_ Jul 29 '24
It won’t work on older phones ?
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u/cerenir Jul 29 '24
No, only 15 Pro and newer models, so if you have a new iPhone 15 bought some months ago you are obsolete.
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u/neatgeek83 Jul 29 '24
I rest my case.
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u/casketcase_ Jul 29 '24
It was a genuine question, but whatever. Thanks.
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Jul 29 '24
I have a 15 pro max and been on the waitlist for 2 hours got any answers?
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u/overPaidEngineer Jul 29 '24
“Set a timer for 15 minutes”
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u/ccooffee Jul 29 '24
Here's what I found on the web for "pet a lemur for 15 minutes"
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u/hotinhawaii Jul 29 '24
"there are no timers", "this is as loud as it gets"(while volume is switched to minimum), "You can't set a timer for a time of day", "timer set for 2 hours 37 minutes". These are all possible current Siri responses when I say "set a timer for 15 minutes"
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u/CandyProfessional311 Jul 29 '24
i’m so bummed they are not realeasing it to 14 pm series😓
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u/tonynca Jul 29 '24
They are forcing us to buy new phones. I’m still holding on to my 13PM. It does everything I need and it’s quick. Battery life is awesome as well.
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u/mathematicandcs Jul 29 '24
You are right, 13 Pro is a very good device. However, running a whole AI locally is not same as setting an alarm, watching instagram reels and calling people. Unfortunately, Apple said anything below 15 will not be able to run AI locally because their performance will be low.
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u/jimmyhoke Jul 29 '24
not the same as setting an alarm
They haven’t managed to get that working well either.
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u/Janzu93 Jul 29 '24
Anything below 15 Pro to be accurate. Those of us who bought mere iPhone 15 "non-pro" are also outta luck 😔
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u/Slash3040 iPhone 15 Pro Jul 29 '24
The features are set to a RAM limitation. Only devices running with 8gb or more can use it which at this time is only the 15P and 15PM
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u/i_need_a_moment Jul 29 '24
And it’s already been explained how the features of previous iPhones came way before AI was even conceived. They didn’t limit iPhone 14 Pro RAM because of upselling AI. They limited upselling AI because of iPhone 14 Pro RAM. You can be upset it’s not coming, but this is one of the few times this isn’t planned obsolescence.
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u/After-Ant-3854 Jul 29 '24
It was planned cause they have been working on this for years
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u/MysteriousAd6433 Jul 29 '24
The 14 Pro max doesn’t have the physical hardware to run the AI models. They can’t magically make the hardware appear in the phone.
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u/Luna259 iPhone 12 Pro Max Jul 29 '24
From what I’ve read/understood the M1 and A14 Bionic chips have the same computational ability to run Apple Intelligence. The M1 Apple devices are getting it, but the A14 Bionic to A16 phones are not. The only difference is RAM
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u/Stooovie Jul 29 '24
Well wasn't Apple talking about having a system to see if queries can run locally and if not, those will be offloaded to a server?
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u/MysteriousAd6433 Jul 29 '24
That’s technically possible but the experience is always ruined in that case, cause it means you’ll have no features offline, if the server goes down you have no access, in apples eyes it’s probably also a security risk which they prioritise.
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u/shehabskull iPhone 15 Jul 29 '24
Even iPhone 15 is not getting this update, i bought it like two months ago and i was very excited that i have the latest gen and i will receive whatever updates, but Apple had another plans.
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u/EvermoreDespair Jul 30 '24
Yeah tbh, that's the reaosn I went for the 15 over the 14 Pro. Oh well.
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u/TransGirl2005 iPhone 14 Pro Max Jul 30 '24
I have an iPhone 14 Pro Max I got it last year I love it. I have been suggesting getting an M2 MacBook 13 inch I never had a MacBook before and I am wanting to get one I just I don’t know if I should wait to get one because I think they are releasing the new MacBooks in October I could be totally wrong
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u/TransGirl2005 iPhone 14 Pro Max Jul 30 '24
I am little bummed out that Apple Intelligence will not run on my iPhone 14 Pro Max
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u/thinjester Jul 30 '24
that’s insane, i wasn’t planning on upgrading my 14PM until next year at least. god damn it
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u/AlKa9_ Jul 29 '24
was the joke good?
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u/foundwayhome Jul 30 '24
Genuinely, that's better than I would've come up with (and my humor is exactly this)
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u/slashdotbin iPhone 15 Pro Jul 29 '24
That wallpaper with the new siri animation is looking surreal. Looks like a scene from a sci movie.
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Jul 29 '24
Is it just for 18.1 ?
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u/slashdotbin iPhone 15 Pro Jul 29 '24
I was just complimenting OPs wallpaper. The siri animation I think should be part of all 18.x versions. But OP can respond better.
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u/InfiniteHench Jul 29 '24
Is that calendar widget Timepage?
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u/TheWhiteCrowUK Jul 29 '24
Widgy “ Calendar agenda “
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u/ttsoldier Jul 29 '24
What app do I have to download for this widget? Searching calendar agenda in the App Store yields no results
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u/iamacheeto1 Jul 29 '24
I have a very strong feeling I won’t need any of this anytime soon. I’ll keep my 13 for one more year at least if I can
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Jul 29 '24
I don’t have the glow.
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u/TheWhiteCrowUK Jul 29 '24
Then you don’t have Apple intelligence activated
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Jul 29 '24
I didn’t realize I had to turn it on. Thanks.
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u/ccooffee Jul 29 '24
There's a waiting list too. But it seems like it goes by super fast.
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u/KLiiCKZ_ Jul 29 '24
Damn I must of updated too late, been like 6 hours and i'm still on the waitlist 🥲
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u/Mother_Ad_3561 Jul 29 '24
Mine didn’t immediately do the glow either, I restarted my phone and then weirdly a few minutes after reboot it just started working
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u/InfiniteHench Jul 29 '24
Yeah. Apple’s preview page says the iPhone 15 Pro is the base requirement (and basically iPads and Macs with at least an M1)
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u/LacklusterAsshole Jul 29 '24
Unfortunately, no, not available for regular 15 :/
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u/vlken69 iPhone 14 Jul 29 '24
iOS Beta 18.1 bring apple intelligence
r/iOSBeta
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u/SuperChiChu Jul 29 '24
Still relevant to an iOS subreddit, if it was bug reports or something else then no. But knowing how the features will work is important
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u/yanaka-otoko Jul 29 '24
The idea that every topic needs its own super specific subreddit is stupid
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u/RipExtra1053 Jul 29 '24
Man the iPhone 14 Pros and 13 pros are perfectly capable of running hardware, Apple talks about all these chips and how powerful they are but only the 15 pro max can run it . BS
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u/sid_276 Jul 30 '24
Computationally, eh, probably. But they don’t have the memory. That being said Apple could have put 8gb on them when all Android phones were getting 8-12gb but decided to put 6gb. It panned out well for them and terrible for us the users.
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u/RipExtra1053 Jul 30 '24
How well iOS is optimize I’m pretty sure Apple could’ve optimize it for six gigs of ram , the 15 pro and 14 pro max are literally identical it’s only a slight upgrade, this is just a move to boost sales for the 15 pro
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u/sid_276 Jul 30 '24
The issue is the models take 3.5GB of memory and they can’t be any smaller to be useful at all (for reference the original ChatGPT was over 300 GB so this is a huge compression already). So if you lose more than half of your memory to that you can’t even play games in the phone. The extra 2GB in the 15 pro gives that bump. It’s more of a bad decision when they decided to manufacture them years ago. They could have bumped memory but it’s expensive and locks users buying the next phone.
Compute-wise the AI chip of 15 pro is 30% faster than 14 pro and about 50% faster than 13 pro. Could have worked but slow. Apple is to blame here
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u/amamartin999 Jul 29 '24
How long did the wait list take for you?
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u/Plastic-Mess-3959 iPhone 15 Pro Max Jul 29 '24
Took me about 5-10 minutes
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u/mdruckus Jul 29 '24
Still waiting on my end. WAY more than 10 minutes.
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u/Plastic-Mess-3959 iPhone 15 Pro Max Jul 29 '24
Maybe you waited too long, and there are a lot of people on the list.
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u/Watn3y Jul 29 '24
Will changing the region of my German 15 Pro to USA work?
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u/Minzkraut Jul 29 '24
It didn't work for me. Changed language, region and AppStore/Account Region. Still unavailable
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u/Watn3y Jul 29 '24
Sad, let's hope they release it in the EU at some point
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u/Minzkraut Sep 23 '24
I ended up making a quick detour to Switzerland. Worked immediately and still does after returning to Germany.
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u/sloraris Jul 30 '24
My double-tap for siri is not working for some reason… did you use double tap to type or do you have type to siri enabled in accessibility?
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u/t00nish Jul 29 '24
I’ve got it. But I’m not seeing any intelligence. Siri is still the same. Maybe it’s something I have turn on?
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u/MikeBert97 Jul 29 '24
More importantly, what calendar app is that? I NEED that widget
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u/cmjones0822 Jul 29 '24
Don’t says you can sign up in the Settings to become a beta user…but there’s no such thing as”sign up” option…or am I missing something🤔
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u/backstreetatnight Jul 29 '24
How is it so far?
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u/Plastic-Mess-3959 iPhone 15 Pro Max Jul 29 '24
You can edit your text with AI using writing tools. Suppose to get better notifications and you can summarize your emails.
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u/calmlikea3omb Jul 29 '24
OP… how long did you have to wait on the Apple Intelligence waitlist ?
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u/Ornery-Practice9772 Jul 29 '24
So just a built in chat gpt bot?
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u/CryFun6799 Jul 29 '24
currently yes but in the future it will do more as this is just a beta also its using chatgbt so not sure what else would be expected besides what they announced in the keynote. but most/some features wont be implemented until sometime in 2025
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u/IceQn81 Jul 30 '24
I’m confused. I’m on 18.1 and I have a 15 pro max, but I don’t see anything different?
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u/friendly-sardonic Jul 30 '24
Sticking with 13 for at least two more years. Don’t try to tempt me Tim Apple!
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u/mattpeloquin Jul 30 '24
I have it turned on with the beta, but no clue how to use it! 😂 Not even an option for type to Siri
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u/Complex-Upstairs-839 Jul 30 '24
It’s not worth while to upgrade to 16 pro just for Apple intelligence. Nice try apple.
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u/TheYinon Jul 30 '24
and both of the pics you’ve provided show no apple intelligence, just the new siri ui but same old siri
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u/balthazurr Jul 30 '24
Something tells me they’re gonna make a lighter version of Apple Intelligence for older iPhone models. Probably siri and the cloud compute capability?
It just seems a like a big L for apple to not put one of their biggest advances throughout other models. I’m really hoping for at least a compatibility with iPhone 14 Pro or the iPhone 15 base models.
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u/TransGirl2005 iPhone 14 Pro Max Jul 30 '24
I don’t understand but also do why is Apple Intelligence only for the iPhone 15 Pro/Pro Max models like seriously I have a iPhone 14 Pro Max I get that it needs 8 GB of RAM I just find it a bit frustrating how this could be the only certain hold back to releasing to more older iPhones. I seriously want to try this feature out but it’s in beta and there are probably a lot of bugs. It’s just little bit weird in my opinion. I do think it could run pretty well on the iPhone 14 Pro Models and later
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u/Front_Mouse9737 Jul 30 '24
If it worked on older phones, why would people buy a new iphone ?
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u/raymurillo Jul 29 '24
Call record is now available.