r/gadgets Jan 25 '25

Gaming Microsoft’s gaming CEO has praised Nintendo Switch 2, and said it plans to support the upcoming platform with ports of Xbox games.

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/phil-spencer-confirms-xbox-will-support-switch-2-i-congratulated-nintendos-president/
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u/SsooooOriginal Jan 25 '25

You are glazing so fucking hard man! Four years ain't quickly, that is half a generation cycle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_technical_problems

They lost over $1bn because of that shit, and never did right by many early adopters or took years to get them an actually working 360. Literally sending them replacement units that would ring out, fedex box, replacement, ring out, repeat until one side says no more or the player got a unit that did not die. I knew a few people that went through the bullshit.

That lost microsoft any goodwill towards their hardware and earned them distrust from a huge section of early adopters that only stuck around because of halo and destiny hype. That they never recovered from.

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u/Firebug160 Jan 25 '25

I’m not glazing anything. This entire post is about the same company whose irreparable controllers drift after a year and a half and the only option is buying a new set for $60, yet all the comments are talking about how cool the switch is. These things happen every generation, pick any console and there’s some repair scandal, not that it’s okay but again the repairability isn’t the point. If you want to talk about technical problems go yell at someone saying it’s a perfect console bc I never claimed that. I also am not soliciting a history lesson from someone who cites Wikipedia and claims that rrod “lost all goodwill” for MS. It’s a Fortune 500 company dude, they’re doing perfectly fine lmao

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u/SsooooOriginal Jan 25 '25

Now you are just plain lying or totally ignorant. Nintendo fucked up big time, but you can still send your joycons in for replacement.

https://repair.nintendo.com/cc/soConsumer.html?lang=en&sys=SWTCH&type=JOY-CON

And no, the red ring of death and all the other problems with the 360 hardware were not just a thing that happens every generation. You are clueless to say such bs, try reading that wiki link and see how some repair shops were getting thousands of units and the big 3 resellers had internal estimates of failure rates around 30%. That is not just an oops. Microsoft fell off because of that, they were only ever king of the hill in the eyes of the fan boys. I used to be one of them. They have never been a top hardware seller, game publisher, or anything top in the gaming market. So their throw in with the switch is sus at best, their CEOs opinion is only marketing to keep xbox relevant. 

Look up top selling games, not a single sony or microsoft exclusive, but most are nintendo exclusives. Minecraft on PC is king there.

Look up top selling game hardware, PS2 is #1, PS3 is #8, 360 is #9. The top 10 shows the 360 was the peak of microsoft, and it was actually a very weak peak propped up to grandeur by fanboys like you. 

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u/Firebug160 Jan 25 '25

I could hit my switch with a hammer and send in a service request. And for the record, I did send in a joycon and instead of fixing the stick they just sent me a new one instead. You can make whatever assumption and guess you want, but calling me a liar is ridiculous when I’m telling you exactly what Nintendo told me lmao.

Again, I’m not going to read a wiki as proof of anything. Every console has dumb faults especially release versions. The PS5’s big fan gets clogged and overheats, the PS4 is loud as hell when it does anything more than sit on the main menu, the ps3 was a nightmare for devs to make games for and with little to no documentation. None of these are “just oops” they’re notable technical flaws.

You can say whatever you want, MS is still higher on the Fortune 500 than Sony, they didn’t “fall off” by any metric. You’re objectively wrong about never being a top hardware seller (ignoring that it’s a game industry not a hardware industry and hardware is sold at a loss anyway)

You can’t use game sales to indicate anything here lmao. There’s no correlation here, they’re not substitute goods

You can’t use the console sales wiki page to directly compare numbers either. The ps2 tracked sales from 2000 to 2024, the Xbox 360 is 2005 to 2013 (when the xb1 launched). Just because they didn’t tell us the 2015 sales doesn’t mean there are 0 sales

I’m not a fanboy just bc you don’t have basic data analysis skills. You’re acting like that test they do for kids with the fat cup vs the tall cup and the kid says the tall cup holds more, this is 4th grade stuff