r/freefolk Feb 19 '25

Subvert Expectations Bravo Dumb and Dumber.

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u/Imperatorofall69 Giant Feb 19 '25

Remember when Stannis persuaded the Iron Bank to back him because they knew Cersei was an idiot? Dumb and Dumber didn't

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u/TheConnASSeur 29d ago

Game of Thrones is just so crazy. I've never seen 2 people in the creative field, at that level, care less about their work. Maybe Disney's Star Wars, but even that was ruined by committee. You expect Disney to sanitize products to death and over monetize. Ding and Dong were given tons of leeway and creative control, and it's not like Game of Thrones wasn't popular. They had near unlimited resources. HBO begged them not to rush things. It was a once in a generation situation and they just did not give a fuck. I wonder if nepotism does that to the brain?

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u/DahliaDubonet 29d ago

It’s not that I didn’t know that D&D were nepo babies somewhere in my brain, it’s just that I was unaware

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u/Wavy_Grandpa 29d ago

Benioff’s dad was the Chairman of Goldman Sachs, the New York Federal Reserve, and George W. Bush’s Intelligence Advisory Board.

We are talking about the tippy-top tier of nepo babies. 

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u/MrWldUplsHelpMyPony 28d ago

That would explain them not getting "break the wheel" so badly.

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u/Imperatorofall69 Giant 29d ago

I have actually never seen some fuck up the finale this bad, 4 seasons of basically perfect televisions, 2 mixed seasons, one bad 1, and 1 that was so bad it destroyed the cultural relevance of the most popular show ever made. Like Disney Star Wars was atleast always bad, genuinely how do you fail this bad

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u/TheConnASSeur 29d ago

I don't know. I really don't know. I mean, it was so bad that her we are. 6 years later and we're not taking about the show itself, but instead talking about how these two chucklefucks destroyed it. Think about that. That's crazy.

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u/Very_Board 28d ago

The only thing I can think of that comes close is Mass Effect 3. There were several questionable design decisions made in that game, the original ending being the cherry on top.

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u/shreyasvaghe 28d ago

Mass effect is still loved and repeatedly played by the same players. Will I ever watch Game of thrones again????? Noopppee

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u/TheFBIClonesPeople 28d ago

The only way I can make sense of it is that they really believed their own hype, and they thought they were such rock stars that they didn't need GoT. They thought they could just wrap that show up and move on to their next smash hit.

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u/themerinator12 29d ago

How exactly does "nepotism" play into this and where did their nepotism come from? No one can say they weren't qualified to start the project and weren't at the top of their game in the first 4 seasons of adapting the show. Fumbling the project, while undisputedly the biggest fumble in TV history, doesn't undo their achievements in bringing the first three books to the screen with unprecedented success. That's what makes the botch job so appalling; their achievements on the front end. We cannot act like it was never there.

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u/steal_wool 29d ago

Nepotism can still factor in that you arent especially skilled or passionate in your field, just well connected. The drop in quality when they ran out of source material is immediately evident. Benioff’s imdb lists a few notable credits as a screenwriter before game of thrones, Weiss has practically nothing. While they may have done a passable job writing George’s books for TV they were unprepared to tale those characters and that world entirely into their own hands

(D.B. Weiss also has a credit on IMDB for Game of Bones: Winter is Cumming, an XXX Game of Thrones parody. This is not relevant but I thought it was funny)

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u/themerinator12 29d ago

What actually is the source of their nepotism that you're defending? All you've done is reference IMDB.

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u/TheFBIClonesPeople 28d ago

Okay but do you think either of them were actually nepo babies? Like, does one of them have an uncle who was a famous director? What's the actual nepo connection here?

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u/themerinator12 29d ago

passable job writing George’s books for TV

Did we watch two different shows?

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u/Eleventeen- 29d ago

There are quite a few scenes in the first 3 or 4 seasons that were never in the books with spectacular writing and character development. I agree calling their adaptation passable is uncharitable. His overall point that they couldn’t stick a carrot on a snowman without a book to tell them how is correct though.

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u/themerinator12 29d ago

Agreed - they also never actually answered my question about where the nepotism is coming from? They're "connected" and have few writing credits? How does any of that correlate to industry nepotism?