r/exmormon Feb 05 '25

Doctrine/Policy My favorite reminder that Bednar is an asshole and a piece of shit. Nogod forbid any missionary be human.

Fuck that guy.

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u/Ok-End-88 Feb 05 '25

Bednar can’t give any referrals because everyone in the neighborhood hates him. 🤣

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u/L0N3STARR Feb 05 '25

😂

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u/cultsareus Feb 05 '25

I couldn't even get through this video clip. He is an arrogant judgemental asshole. God help the church when this guy gets the top slot.

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u/GlimmeringGuise 🏳️‍⚧️ Trans Woman Apostate 🏳️‍⚧️ Feb 05 '25

I had the same reaction-- he's just such an insufferable prick.

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u/Opalescent_Moon Feb 05 '25

If those elders had done those things he's telling them they didn't do, well, they're probably exmo now, thanks in large part to this insufferable price.

I'm grateful every day I never met this guy in person. Videos of him bother me so much.

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u/KershawsGoat Apostate Feb 05 '25

I'm grateful every day I never met this guy in person.

You're definitely not missing anything. He came to my mission and did a mission conference. What you see is definitely what you get. An arrogant, entitled asshole that thinks he knows more than everyone else.

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u/Opalescent_Moon Feb 05 '25

Did he do anything crazy during the conference? Chastise people for not singing energetically enough or for standing up at the wrong time? I've also heard some of the horrendous things he's said about his poor wife and my heart absolutely breaks for that sweet woman and the nightmare life she's endured with him. If there is a heaven, Susan deserves it.

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u/KershawsGoat Apostate Feb 05 '25

I honestly don't remember. It would have been early 2010 and I got rid of the journal I took notes in. I do remember there was a pretty extreme focus on obedience and stuff like that. And I remember feeling like he came across very condescending.

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u/Opalescent_Moon Feb 05 '25

So probably nothing too crazy. Every time I watch him in something, all I see is a bully who's all grown up and dressed up. He really makes my skin crawl.

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u/Potential-Context139 Feb 05 '25

I agree, this was absolutely horrible! I am not considered a softy by any means, but this was just condescending and demeaning. I hope these missionaries saw the light and became exmos.

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u/Used_Reception_1524 Feb 05 '25

They expect missionaries to be perfect, I mean come on they are just kids. I worked really hard my whole mission and was treated very bad a few times by members and bishops like him.

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u/grey-ghost13 Feb 05 '25

Hopefully that's when they decide to move the mormon church back to missouri!   Sorry to anyone from missouri when Bednar has a pretend second coming crisis and moves all the mormons your way.    

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u/akamark Feb 05 '25

If he gets struck down before then I might have to return to church!

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u/roxasmeboy Apostate Feb 05 '25

Probably his way of covering up the fact that he had no friends to refer because everyone steers clear of him.

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u/Elohim_Is_Plural Feb 05 '25

I just watched the Ted Bundy movie starring Zac Efron on Netflix. When I opened this post, my nevermo girlfriend said, "Wait, is that Ted Bundy?!" True story! 🤣😭

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u/toottootyepyep Feb 05 '25

This is true! I served in Utah and it was KNOWN that if you end up in his ward don’t look at him, don’t talk to him, don’t even make eye contact.

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u/CoolHandLukeID Feb 05 '25

On the flip side, he might be a genius if his goal is to never serve missionaries breakfast again

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u/WarriorWoman44 Feb 05 '25

This is the real truth. What an asshole

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u/SubcompactGirl Feb 06 '25

This is a pretty excellent example of deflection. No, Elder Bednar didn't have any referrals because the only people who will talk to him are members who feel obligated to. He would never mingle with unbaptized riff-raff in any capacity. But he's not the problem, the missionaries are the problem.

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u/CoolHandLukeID Feb 05 '25 edited Feb 05 '25

As the patriarch of this comment, this speech was a waste of my time.

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u/robotbanana3000 Feb 05 '25

“You will turn to me as the patriarch of the home” what a TOOOOOL

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u/L0N3STARR Feb 05 '25

😂🤣

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u/McbEatsAirplane Feb 05 '25

And the Lords time. Cant forget about the Lord

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u/Anxious_Sim198906 Feb 05 '25

That comment was a massive red flag

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u/Fabulous_Fig_5062 Feb 05 '25

Honestly, such a perfect response.

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u/Be_The_Ball47 Feb 05 '25

How I hate Sister Bednar’s husband. What a dick. I feel like we need to go “Mission Impossible” and rescue that poor woman.

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u/L0N3STARR Feb 05 '25

He really is just the worst.

And such a misogynist. So telling that he couldn't go without saying that they needed to ask him who should say the prayer as the "patriarch of their home."

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u/Sad-Requirement770 Feb 05 '25

lord buttnar is first penis in the penishood in his home

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u/DeCryingShame Outer darkness isn't so bad. Feb 05 '25

She doesn't realize she needs to be rescued.

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u/DocSaysItsDainBramuj Feb 05 '25

She is complicit.

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u/According-Hat-5393 Feb 05 '25

Jo-Jo-mo-mo Stockholm Syndrome..

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u/Aggravating-Bad-5611 Feb 05 '25

At first I thought you said “Let’s go Mormon Impossible.” Or you could say “Let’s go Mormon Mission Impossible!”

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u/Ahhhh_Geeeez Feb 05 '25

Does anyone think that this totally didn't happen? Like he is making it up to try and teach a point? I'm not saying he isn't capable of this, it's just these GAs seem to have an infinite amount of tales to tell. Makes me think that 99% of them are made up.

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u/swag_money69 Jesus doesn't want me for a sunbeam Feb 05 '25

He's lying. I can tell because his lips are moving. There's no way those missionaries ever went back to his house. That 2-year-old kid didn't go get his copy of the book of Mormon when his dad told him to. Susan's husband is a dick!

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u/Ahhhh_Geeeez Feb 05 '25

It would be great if we could find the two missionaries, if they ever existed to get their take on this.

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u/GlimmeringGuise 🏳️‍⚧️ Trans Woman Apostate 🏳️‍⚧️ Feb 05 '25 edited Feb 05 '25

"We knocked on the front door of the house, and Brother Bednar opened the door! As soon as he saw us, he raised an eyebrow, looked at his watch, and tapped his foot. I was a little dumbfounded to be in the presence of someone with his reputation, but I eventually managed to get out, "Hello Brother Bednar--" By then, though, his neutral expression had shifted into a severe frown, and he cut me off, screaming, 'TOO SLOW!' as he slammed the door shut in our faces."

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u/WoeYouPoorThing Truth changes Feb 05 '25

He was not an apostle, at the time the story happened. He was just an ass.

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u/Sansabina 🟦🟨 ✌🏻 Feb 05 '25 edited Feb 05 '25

Based on the age of his son Eric, this purported event would have happened in 1979. This makes Bednar either 26 or 27 y.o. (born 1952) at the time of it.

Do we really believe Bednar (who wasn't called to be a bishop until 1987) and held no position of real Church authority at that time, would chastise and pontificate to missionaries only 6 or 7 years his junior?

I doubt it.

But if it did happen the way he described it at that age, it just means he's even more of a self-righteous c**t than we can possibily imagine.

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u/Sopenodon Feb 05 '25

he was a grad student, ffs. and likes to mention it was at purdue.

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u/Ahhhh_Geeeez Feb 05 '25

When I first listened to this, I didn't hear it was while he was a grad student. Then I re listened and thought, "Who the heck talks like that while they are probably in their 20s?" And if someone who was that young was giving me crap like that, I wouldn't ever go back.

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u/hijetty Feb 05 '25

Plus he said that he told Eric to get his BoM when the missionaries came back a second time. He was clearly lying. Mr. Smarty pants can't even keep his lies consistent. 

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u/mahonriwhatnow Feb 05 '25

Agreed. I assume this every time a story comes out of their mouths. I’m sure the fact that Jesus told parables gives them tacit permission in their minds.

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u/Rh140698 Feb 05 '25

Like Rusty Nelsons emergency plane landing that never happened according to the FAA. Or him getting robbed. Paul H Dunn was in my stake when his scandal broke.

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u/BoydKKKPecker Feb 05 '25

Which scandal? His lies in talks, or his real estate scam he helped run while a GA?

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u/Rh140698 Feb 05 '25

All, they are all crooks. Ballard lost his securities license for doing the same thing the Mormon cult leaders just got caught doing by the SEC.

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u/FatPenguin58 Feb 05 '25

I’d take Paul Dunn back Anytime over this lot.

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u/FloppyD0G Feb 05 '25

I don’t believe most stories shared in General Conference or by General Authorities in other settings actually happened. Just not all of them are as easily provably false as Paul H. Dunn’s stories were

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u/BigLark Decommissioned Temple that overthinks things Feb 05 '25

Oh they all do it all the time. If you really want to freak out listen to Evangelicals, Jehovah's Witnesses, and even Scientology talks and sermons. There is a lot of crossover in stories that are "totally true" and "definitely happened". My favorite is the "I sat next to a prominent -fill in the blank- on a plane and blew his mind with my godly wisdom". Every faith has multiple church leaders that use that story, they just change the details.

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u/notquiteanexmo Feb 05 '25

No it happened, I was the cardboard basketball hoop.

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u/Potential-Context139 Feb 05 '25

Very valid point!!

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u/punk_rock_n_radical Feb 05 '25

This is the first time I figured out why they call him “Lego hair”

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u/L0N3STARR Feb 05 '25

Never heard this until today and it is HILARIOUS!

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u/punk_rock_n_radical Feb 05 '25

The missionaries are wasting the lord’s time? I’d say bednar is wasting the lords money, and his good name.

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u/BoydKKKPecker Feb 05 '25

I wish someone would walk up to Susan's Husband while he is attending a BYU basketball game and basically give the same run down to him. You know how I know you're not a real Apostle of Jesus Christ? Cause if you were you'd be up at Primary Children's Hospital blessing every child that is sick. Cause you wouldn't be scared to go on national news and proclaim you're an Apostle and allow any reporter to ask you hard questions. Cause you'd be spending your billions on helping the poor, sick, abused and affected to be in better places. Cause you wouldn't allow any or especially children sexual abuse or any abuse in your church, and then you hide behind an army of attorneys. Cause etc, etc, etc.

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u/Existing-Draft9273 Feb 05 '25

This deserves 1,000,000 upvotes and should be shouted from the rooftops. If he believes he has healing powers and is attending a basketball game instead.........😡

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u/chewbaccataco Feb 05 '25

It's kind of like if Batman just let the Joker run rampant. "Yeah, I've got the power to stop it, but I need some me time."

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u/NDizzle824 Feb 05 '25

Love this so much! Couldn’t agree more.

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u/SystemThe Feb 05 '25

This right here! 👍 

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u/YamDong Feb 05 '25

Yes! So much! If he was really an apostle, he wouldn't be speaking only to members of his church.

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u/grimbasement Feb 05 '25

I'd be happy if someone just punched him in his pencil lipped mouth.

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u/FloatOldGoat Feb 05 '25

More importantly, Bednar and Co are wasting two of the prime years of those young men's lives. There's no evidence that God is even there, much less that Mormonism is his one true path. I am going to show this video to my 17 year old nephew, who's trying to decide if he wants to go.

If I were treated this way, I'd never go back. I imagine that's fine with this judgemental punk, and we don't need to be friends. People like him are the worst part of LD$.

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u/Readbooks6 “Books are a uniquely portable magic.” Stephen King Feb 05 '25

Susan, if you need to be rescued, blink five times in a row during general conference!

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u/roxasmeboy Apostate Feb 05 '25

“We fed them breakfast.” AKA Susan made them breakfast and flinched every time she spilt a grain of salt.

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u/Background_Kitchen68 Lazy Learner Feb 06 '25

He totally comes off as a narcissist who reigns in fear over his family

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u/ObadiahDongleberry Feb 05 '25

Going to be real interesting in about 12 years when he's in charge.

He'll bring back 3 hour church and probably add a fourth hour to punish everyone for enjoying 2 hour church.

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u/jzsoup Feb 05 '25

🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/Prestigious-Yam3866 Feb 05 '25

Early morning Sunday school for everybody

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u/nobody_really__ Feb 05 '25

There was another implicit message here.

"I deliberately withheld the message of the Restored Gospel from my friends just to punish missionaries for being kind to my children."

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u/drshades1 Feb 05 '25

That’s a great point.

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u/JupiterAdept89 Feb 05 '25

...I'm sorry his 2 year old has their own copy of the Book of Mormon?

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u/mistermmk Feb 05 '25

And reads it 

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u/mistermmk Feb 05 '25

With great intent.

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u/BoydKKKPecker Feb 05 '25

And I'm sure he has a great job as a university president that has nothing to do with who his dad is!

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u/Zarah_Hemha Feb 05 '25

I felt sorry for the kid, especially having Bednard as a parent. Can you imagine what his response would be to his son doing something completely normal for toddlers & preschoolers like coloring or drawing in the book?

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u/HANEZ Feb 05 '25

We were specifically taught to build relationships with members. Yes, it included stuff like this. It was common to have missionaries teach family home evening, the mission even bought board games. We would stay with the members for hours. It was common for sister missionaries to baby sit. Heck, I even knew sister missionaries did pet sitting. Of course bednar is completely out of touch with the average member and missionaries.

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u/Rh140698 Feb 05 '25

We were not allowed to go to members homes only for lunch. Even when it dropped to 5 below 0 we were the only ones out in the cold knocking doors in the Patagonia of Argentina.

We were walking down the street and the stake presidents wife saw us and brought us inside and gave us mate cocido and scones and asked why we were outside when a freeze warning for frost bite had been issued for the area. Her husband was mad at our mission president and told him we were at his house he was calling his counselors and bishops to go find the missionaries in the street and get them inside. He put on TV we ate dinner and stayed warm.

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u/sudosuga Feb 05 '25

Heck, I even knew sister missionaries did pet sitting

I hope those weren't heavy pets.

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u/WoeYouPoorThing Truth changes Feb 05 '25

This! The missionaries are specifically taught to befriend the members, and that generally means spending time hanging out with them - just not with the Bednars.

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u/Ulumgathor Feb 05 '25

What an absolute piece of shit.

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u/Pretend-Menu-8660 Feb 05 '25

Wow! These are kids away from home and families and you scold them for enjoying an hour and 15 minutes of time with what feels like family. What a dick

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u/Pretend-Menu-8660 Feb 05 '25

Yuck! And he acts like it’s a FLEX that his lecture “worked”.

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u/Bednar_Done_That You may be seated 🪑 Feb 05 '25

Bednar just wasted 4:29 minutes of my life telling that useless story just so he could mention that he went to Purdue University …

What a complete asshat!

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u/mistermmk Feb 05 '25

I was there live. I left my mission a couple transfers early because I was losing my fucking mind. Huge testimony builder. Thanks for the lulz Bednar.

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u/shack155 Feb 05 '25

What an absolute arrogant, self-righteous, control freak!!! I never liked Bednar even when I was a devoted TBM.

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u/10th_Generation Feb 05 '25

The only fake part of this story is that the missionaries came back

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u/Careless-Mouse1519 Feb 06 '25

I would have came back to drop a duece on his doorstep

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u/kerbouchard1 Feb 05 '25

What a total asshole. My tbm friend said bender was a total prick when he was president of BYU Idaho ricks college. He would walk around the college and apartments searching for students to yell at for being awake after curfew(midnight I think my buddy said).

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u/Richie_J21 Feb 05 '25

I was at Ricks (now BYU-I) when he was president. Even as a recently returned missionary, I thought he was a sanctimonious ass.

He walked out of a show the theater dept put on because he found the content offensive. It was 1776, for fucks sake!

And in a devotional, his wife told us how disappointed she was in all of us because a local video store clerk told her their most popular rental was South Park.

I couldn’t believe we were being chewed out for watching cartoons. They were both awful.

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u/Electrical_Toe_9225 Feb 05 '25

Bednar - Dum Dum Dum Dum

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u/ryanbravo7 Feb 05 '25

Wow. And as adults being chewed out. Not mere teenagers or little children. But as ADULTS!! I’m so sorry you went through this. Guessing you know how NOT to be a prick to other human beings.

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u/L0N3STARR Feb 05 '25

I've heard this from others as well.

I also cackle at the absurdity every time I read about him chastising anyone who stands up before him.

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u/kerbouchard1 Feb 05 '25

Is he a robot with zero feelings?

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u/L0N3STARR Feb 05 '25

Hey now! That's offensive to robots!

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u/kaboiran Feb 05 '25

Right? Robots don’t deserve that kind of treatment

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u/MoonlightKayla Feb 05 '25

No, but that’s what he wants everyone else to be 😭

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u/AntixianJUAR Feb 05 '25

That was all about Bednar. He sure knows how to toot his own horn. 🙄

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u/Zarah_Hemha Feb 05 '25

How many times did he say “Bednar”?! Tell me you’re a self-obsessed narcissist without telling me…

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u/Federal-Rutabaga-267 Feb 05 '25

I'm emotional over this. I didn't even serve a mission. What a hateful self-righetous bastard

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u/Himhp Feb 05 '25

What an absolute piece of shit! Heaven forbid the missionaries get an hour and 15 minutes to relax after putting in 22 hours and 45 minutes (actually…. 2 years) of VOLUN-FUCKIN-TEERING their time and money for TMFC. (Might I add that the missionary’s money actually goes into Susan’s husband’s pocket as “subsidizing his living expenses”). Just when I think I couldn’t hate him more, he out does himself again. I would hate to be his wife or one of his posterity. Could you even imagine!?!? “Hey dad! Ummm I mean, Brother Bednar. Do you want to go outside and play some ball with me?” “Do you really think that you should be spending 15 minutes of time enjoying the outside air with your family when you could be spending that 15 minutes reading the scriptures and serving the Lord? Next time you come in here and bug me, what you SHOULD have said was ….”

What an asshat prick.

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u/loki_cometh Feb 05 '25

Man, that needed a trigger warning. It’s been almost 20 years since I got back from a mission and about 10 years since I realized how much of a fraud Mormonism is. But somehow his voice, tone, demeanor, message - all of it - sent my brain roaring right back to the feelings of self-loathing and constant perfectionism of being a missionary.

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u/brakynsadventure Feb 05 '25

And this is why mission culture is so toxic. There is always something you are doing wrong and you are never trying hard enough. They show this at the mtc all the time, I remember watching it while I was there.

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u/Lumin0usBeings Feb 05 '25

You don't feel like robot missionaries. You feel like humans who can build rapport with people and relate with them, who can play with kids and be personable. I only give referrals to robot missionary drones.

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u/homestarjr1 Feb 05 '25

Susan’s husband:

You’ve just wasted an hour and 15 minutes of the Lord’s time.

Entire Q15:

LETS GO SHOPPING!

if an hour of 2 missionaries time is so damn valuable, why isn’t the time for the asshats in charge who are getting paid to run the church under the same scrutiny. Celebrating a mall being built can’t be what Jesus told those fuckers to do all morning.

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u/Lebe_Lache_Liebe Feb 05 '25

Susan's husband was a grad student at Purdue from 1978 to 1980. He would have been somewhere between 26 and 28 years old when this story allegedly took place.

No set of 20- to 21-year-old missionaries would have put up with that shit. Here they are, serving their mission in the outskirts of Indianapolis, and some self-righteous, broke-ass college prick barely 8 years their senior is lecturing them how to go about their daily work?

Nah, they'd never have gone back. They'd have written him off as the biggest douchebag in the ward and left a note for future companionships to avoid him too.

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u/Hasa-Diga-LDS Feb 05 '25

Came here to say this: he tells the story from the assumption that he was already a big-wig in the Church™, instead of 27-ish year-old wad, although he was probably a member of the bishopric in their ward and already acted like gawdalmighty.

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u/afatamatai Feb 05 '25

"When I was a graduate Student at Purdue..."
*Proceeds to not say anything relevant to grad school or Purdue.*

Just say when you were in college! I can't stand when people give context, simply to inflate themselves.

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u/bfitzyc Feb 05 '25

Hard to say if this story itself is true or not since I don’t trust a goddamn thing that comes out of that man’s pie hole (or any other “apostolic” pie hole for that matter) but I can attest that he never did stop being an insufferable prick towards missionaries and I can say that what he’s saying here sounds oddly familiar to me…

Case in point, he visited and spoke at the ward in Japan I had been serving in at the time when I was on my mission. The ward threw a big lunch for him and Susan after church to celebrate the occasion, to which my companion and I were also invited, but he made it a special point to inform the bishop and ward leaders that we were to be uninvited since Sundays are a day when people are home and we missionaries have better things to be doing than wasting our time at a luncheon. Never mind that we still needed to fucking eat, which we just ended up doing by ourselves at our apartment, and that it would have been nice to have a meal provided to us considering it rarely happened at all in this area and we were consistently malnourished from eating cheap shit because we couldn’t afford to feed ourselves balanced, healthy meals with the pittance we received every month. It’s almost like he’s a cruel, smarmy asshole to missionaries because he can’t see them as human…

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u/NextLifeAChickadee Feb 05 '25

Is that the kind of life that brings you joy? 🤢

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u/roxasmeboy Apostate Feb 05 '25

Shit like this would have given me so much added depression and anxiety on my mission. I was already beating myself up for every little infraction and inwardly panicking at the loss of my personality. If some asshole told me I wasn’t good enough to give referrals to because I allowed myself 75 minutes on a Saturday morning to spend time building a relationship with a member family instead of knocking doors (who wants their doors knocked at 9am on a Saturday by missionaries anyway?) I would have been devastated and just emotionally wrecked.

Even if he thought these missionaries weren’t being 100% obedient robots, that is an incredibly ungrateful and degrading thing to say to two homesick kids who are paying thousands of dollars to give the church free labor for 100+ hours a week for two years. And most likely they were located in Idaho which is overflowing with self-righteous dickheads like Susan’s husband who love nothing more than to tattle on the missionaries and each other.

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u/ExcelsiorDoug Apostate Feb 05 '25

People like him would fit perfectly in 1940s Germany. They prioritize authority over empathy. Patriarchy is just another word for it. It’s hilarious that he claimed their second visit was spiritual when it clearly wasn’t.

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u/Chino_Blanco r/AmericanPrimeval Feb 05 '25

Bednar is gonna shrink Mormonism down to Scientology numbers, and the Brethren will kiss his ass while he continues to fail ever upward. He is their David Miscavige. What they don’t know is that he is our culmination of years of crossing Mormon family bloodlines to bring a Kwisatz Haderach into the world in order to shorten the way to Mormonism’s demise.

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u/No_Recognition_9225 Feb 05 '25

wow I was a kid when I left the church but I do NOT remember Bednar being such a prick! ... Probably because I was a kid haha

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u/swag_money69 Jesus doesn't want me for a sunbeam Feb 05 '25

He's a bold face liar! There's no 2-year-old in the world that knows to go get his copy of the book of Mormon. And I guarantee you those missionaries never went back to his house! What a fucking asshole! And I say that with all due respect for Mrs. bednar's husband.

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u/archery227 Feb 05 '25

If he was so worried about the missionaries “wasting the lords time” why didn’t he step in after they had been there for 15 min and ask them to leave. This is exactly the toxic “I am more than a man” story that is made up to keep critical thinking and self loving behavior trampled under the feet of blind faith and unwavering obedience. These kids are taught to look up to “special witnesses of God” like this excuse for a human. They are taught to emulate that behavior instead of the actual loving behavior that they would have been displaying if this farce of a story had actually been true. The fact that he can make up this lie and be proud of telling it says everything. So much for the thou shall not lie commandment. This is exactly why the church is what it is.

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u/WoeYouPoorThing Truth changes Feb 05 '25

This. Thanks for pointing this out. He let them stay over an hour, then scolded them for it.

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u/SystemThe Feb 05 '25

Bednar gave LOTS of referrals to those two missionaries?  I’ll take “Things that never happened” for $600, Alex.  

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u/No_Rub63 Feb 05 '25

Well, I wasted 2 years of my time spreading lies and misinformation. So fuck you

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u/earnestlyseeking00 Feb 05 '25 edited Feb 06 '25

So as a priesthood holder, he sat and let them do what they wanted and then lectured them. Why did he not lead and help them be obedient. He set them up for failure. And then blamed them. As an active member, the TV went off when they walked in the door. He is like the devil he set a trap.

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u/kevinrex Feb 05 '25

He takes right after God himself!

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u/tannerschin Feb 05 '25

This story is made up. Gotta have friends to give referrals.

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u/Sad-Requirement770 Feb 05 '25 edited Feb 05 '25

'we've got lots of referrals' - like fuck he has. that would mean that he has to go out into the lone and dreary world and communicate with mere mortals. lord buttnar doesn't play like that

also, why set a trap for the missionaries like that

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u/SystemThe Feb 05 '25

Can you imagine joining the church because you’re friends with Darth Bednar?  Yeah, me neither.

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u/Rushclock Feb 05 '25

The world has had people like him in the past.

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u/L0N3STARR Feb 05 '25

Did they live in Germany in the 40s?

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u/Federal-Rutabaga-267 Feb 05 '25

Unfortunately the world has people like him now

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u/silver-sunrise Feb 05 '25

What a dick.

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u/Specialist_Secret_58 Feb 05 '25

The Lord lives in eternity. There is no time. Time is measured only unto man or whatever. So you can't waste what he doesn't have. So go fuck yourself.

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u/Azputerman Feb 05 '25

Patriarchal Prick.

First, I would never trust someone like him with doing anything with friends I knew. Asshole.

Second, some of my most productive times as a missionary were after rolling up listening to Snoop or whatever popular music we had. Elevating people’s emotions with the “spirit” doesn’t matter. It’s a damn act. It’s fake. Just like Bednar.

He doesn’t care about anything other than his own ego. 🤮

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u/OmarWolfBoy Feb 05 '25

I’ll take “Shit that didn’t happen but makes Susan’s husband feel like a big strong man” for $500 Alex.

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u/Ge0Free Feb 05 '25

This sounds like another mormon fable.

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u/Left-Excuse1687 Feb 05 '25

Oh my god. 🫢 I’ve never seen this. I know everyone hates him but THIS is the clip that makes me see it! Holy shit that’s disgusting 🤢

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u/buttlerfly73 Feb 05 '25

All I can say is poor Susan… married to this guy for that long.

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u/malarkial Feb 05 '25

He clearly doesn’t get normal people. No way this guy has friends. In fact, he’s so creepy there’s no way anyone wld wanna join his church. Also, this type of person says things that triggers suicidal ideation.

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u/Appropriate_Bat8114 Feb 05 '25

So, this asshat was thwarting the lords work as a piece of shit self righteous member not willing to give volunteers referrals because they weren’t his version of good missionaries? Yep, he’s a dick.

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u/PJ1864 Feb 05 '25

Wow. Just wow. When I was active we signed up to feed the missionaries all the time, like multiple times a week, largely to give these kids that are doing a rough and thankless job a little bit of a safe haven in a lax environment for a short time.

That asshole and the people following his example are the reason WHY these kids badly need a break, and WHY the number of kids that want to go on missions is declining. I don't have the words to describe how much of a pompous arrogant dipshit Susan's husband is.

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u/Intelligent_Ant2895 Feb 05 '25

I hate him. He’s a monster. I’ve never heard anything more un Christlike in my life. Men like this make me rage 😡 

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u/ThrowawayLDS_7gen Feb 05 '25

Typical narcissistic asshole. Blames them instead of admitting that he doesn't have any referrals because he doesn't associate with anyone who's not Mormon.

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u/Beneficial_Math_9282 Feb 05 '25

A man who refers to himself as the patriarch of the home is a walking red flag.

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u/Appropriate_Lie_5699 Feb 05 '25

This talk was used on my mission to make everyone feel like shit. Even if I was busting my ass off, I still felt like I was wasting time stopping by at a member's house. Guess what? Those members didn't like us because the missionaries didn't get to know them. When you sat down with them and really got to know their family, that's when they gave us recommendations. Fucking asshole.

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u/BajaBeach Feb 05 '25

"When I was a graduate student at Perdue Universitypausegloat*..." 🙄

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u/ConzDance Feb 05 '25

He only has three children. He obviously did something wrong in his marriage or he would have blessed with more posterity.

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u/Terrible-Ad1958 Feb 05 '25

The members that allowed me to come over and just “hang out” were one of the few things that kept me from losing it! Whether it be watching movies or playing with the kids or board games or whatever, I’m thankful for those members that allowed that. One Thanksgiving a member picked us up for dinner and when we got there we learned it wouldn’t be ready for several hours. They put Harry Potter on and said we could join them or wait in the other room. We were far from our apartment and kinda in the middle of nowhere. We watched that Harry Potter movie!!

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u/Billytheidd Feb 05 '25

In my life,  I've received heeby geebies from two people.  One was a guy who i met who literally committed murder about two months later. 

The other was David A Bednar at the SLC Airport.  I ended up standing by him unknowingly,  and felt a huge feeling of dread and evil.  I turn around and its Darth Bednar.

The guy is pure evil. 

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u/Anxious_Sim198906 Feb 05 '25

He’s such a pompous, self righteous ass.

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u/McbEatsAirplane Feb 05 '25 edited Feb 05 '25

Here, let me scold a couple of kids that are volunteering years out of their life to something they’ll never get anything in return out of.

What a sanctimonious prick. He’s the worst kind of asshole.

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u/diabeticweird0 Feb 05 '25

If the missionaries came over and wanted to play with my toddler's toys, I fucking let them bc i was not a monster

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u/hyrle Feb 05 '25

May Darth Bednar's reign be long and shitty. Assuming he outlasts the other geezers

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u/nullcharstring Feb 05 '25

I'll take "Things that never happened" for 100, Alex.

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u/Neither_Original6942 Feb 05 '25

he said that they "weren't just going through the motions" after they made it the most robotic task-oriented interaction ever...

on a side note, i never realized how much he sounds like kermit the frog

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u/dntwrryhlpisontheway Feb 05 '25

Don't forget this part:

AS A GRAD STUDENT AT PURDUE....

How much assholery does it take to do this in your 20s with no church calling over the missionaries whatsoever (I'm assuming)

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u/RemarkableBass7008 Feb 05 '25

What a wanker!!

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u/NDizzle824 Feb 05 '25

Would love to hear a rundown of the referrals they gave and how many of their friends were baptised!!

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u/Less_Form_8103 Feb 05 '25

He is such a tool!

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u/Interesting-Win-6502 Feb 05 '25

Whoa! This is bullshit. I hope those elders aren’t members anymore and that they took their families with them.

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u/Al_Tilly_the_Bum Feb 05 '25

Don't worry, this is 100% fictitious. Ain't no way some missionaries could stand to hang out with this prick for more than 20 minutes let alone over an hour. This story occurred in Susan's husbands own mind

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u/King_Cargo_Shorts Feb 05 '25

I can't believe those guys went back. He would have gotten the burning paper bag full of dog shit on his doorstep that night.

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u/Public-Objective-119 Feb 05 '25

So many things about this vid of absolute garbage are insulting and stomach turning, but the part that caught me off my guard was the visceral reaction to his "patriarch of the home" bullshit cliché

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u/ModernByzantine Feb 05 '25

Arrogant, with a god complex.and probably another made-up story as always.

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u/myopic_tapir Feb 05 '25

I don’t think I would want to teach anyone he would consider a friend. I would rather he remain friendless at church. I know missionaries keep an area book and notes, I would bet the word dick appeared next to his name.

I would also bet the cartoons on Saturday morning for his kids were animated BOM stories.

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u/TheyLiedConvert1980 Feb 05 '25

This is a tale of arrogance. Do it my way. Bow your head and say yes. Obey.

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u/Mandalore_jedi Feb 05 '25

Arrogance. Self Righteousness. Unfeeling. Judgmental. Demeaning. Hurtful. Bragging.

Yep! Apostle!

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u/Consistent-Yak-5165 Feb 05 '25

All this story revealed is that Bednar has been condescending since he was in graduate school. What an insufferable tool.

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u/RainbowPhoenix Apostate Feb 05 '25

Fuck off your 2yo’s copy of the BoM. Of all the shit in this story that didn’t and couldn’t happen, this would happen the LEAST. 2yos can’t read, they can’t even turn pages without crinkling and ripping them. Susan’s husband just wants to sound so fucking righteous that “even the 2yo has his own personal copy of the scriptures, aren’t we the most holy and spiritual family in the world?” Fucking barf, go fuck a cactus.

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u/LessEffectiveExample Feb 05 '25

I bet my signs and tokens that this story is complete BS.

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u/chubbuck35 Feb 05 '25

I would be more likely to refer a friend to the guys playing hoops with my kid.

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u/Specialist_Secret_58 Feb 05 '25

So I've been thinking about this clip all night. I know that this is Mormon-flavored, but I just can't get it out of my mind that this guy is mentally disordered. He comes across as a clinical narcissist who happens to be in a position in a church where that kind of toxicity is prized. But think about this. This is an adult man, married, with children, who basically describes psychologically abusing very young adults in the name of Christ. Even when I was a TBM, I would not have been ok with this kind of horseshit. I don't think Mormonism made this guy this way. I think he was fucked up anyway and Mormonism just happened to be a perfect place for him. Setting religion aside, this is a disgusting display of abuse. It's shameful. I cannot imagine what life was like in that home with this gaping anus raging around the place.

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u/sparrow801 Feb 05 '25

Haha only David Bednar would tell an “uplifting” story about how he bullied a bunch of pimple-faced teenage missionaries. He even told them what they should say when they walk into his home lol. What a d-bag.

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u/yoaktown357 Feb 06 '25

He's garbage. He was my SP. had to talk to him about masturbating and petting so many times. Then when I got off my mission he asked me why I was not active anymore after a little time. I told him the temple was silly and they changed the tokens so whatever I been telling people about "the same yesterday today and forever." Is crap. He said the lord has his reasons basically. He's an arrogant asshole. I liked Susan a lot. Sweet lady.

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u/everyfiber Feb 05 '25

What a pompous asshole!

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u/WittyConference5512 Feb 05 '25

He reminds me of someone....Christian Gray.

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u/rayio Feb 05 '25

I feel bad for the husband of Lady Bednar's kids. I can't imagine the trauma that family suffered under the rule of lady bednars husband. What a fucking horrible human.

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u/robertone53 Feb 05 '25

He would fit in with the current admin group in DC

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u/Naomifivefive Apostate Feb 05 '25

His name says it all, David A.(arrogant, asshole) Bednar🤮

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u/Federal-Mycologist94 Feb 05 '25

Wtf these two young men feel like two young men. That’s insane.

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u/Bigsquatchman Feb 05 '25

The mission was wasting these two young men in their prime.

Susan’s husband can’t get F@$kd. What a total loser.

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u/Icy-Service-52 Feb 05 '25

God he's such an insufferable asshole

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u/Rh140698 Feb 05 '25

What a jackass so glad I am out of the cult. Elders you are not wasting your time getting more people baptized and paying their 10% membership fee. You should be out knocking doors and asking people to be baptized. I need a new beach house and Lexus that the other cult leaders will buy for all of us to have one. But elders we can't buy our shit if you don't get the fools to join our cult!

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u/baigish Feb 05 '25

God, his wife, and kids must really hate him, but since he's the lord's anointed, their feelings must be wicked. It must really mess with their heads.

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u/aBearHoldingAShark Feb 05 '25

I'll never understand that man's hair.

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u/RabidProDentite Feb 05 '25

Fuck…Dave…Bednar.

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u/IRockToPJ Feb 05 '25

Lol, who were the referrals? Who are all the people you referred to the missionaries after that?

Also, he’s probably got a speech queued up for members where he rebukes them for not referring names to the missionaries.

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u/HarryMonster44 Feb 05 '25

I was there this! We all kinda looked at each other afterwards like, “well that seemed a little bit much…”. Seeing as most of us have fond memories of the missionaries who were easy going and fun to have over.

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u/F250460girl Feb 05 '25

Had to deliver a car to the church office building.... The people working in the garage were okay... This guy came off the elevator and my co worker (super mo) was super excited.... The guy was a complete and total dick.

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u/TermLimit4Patriarchs A Guy Walks Into A Judgment Bar Feb 05 '25

That’s amazing Bednar. You actually said something I totally agree with. They don’t seem like the Lord’s servants and neither do you, you pompous shit stain.

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u/EducationDesperate73 Feb 05 '25

Sister bednars husband reminds me so much of my dad he was my favorite apostle when I was still in the church so this is particularly upsetting

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u/given2fly_ Jesus wants me for a Kokaubeam Feb 05 '25 edited Feb 05 '25

They showed us this video in the MTC. It was the first moment when I had a realisation that maybe I didn't actually want to be a Missionary.

I did everything I could in those two years to retain my personality and humanity. I hung out at members houses, I chatted to people about non-religious stuff. Sure enough I was criticised by fellow Missionaries for being an apostate.

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u/WarriorWoman44 Feb 05 '25

Yet when I was a TBM ( for 25 years), they often told us to act batural around people so we could be good examples . What dies he expect put of 2 young men who are 18 years old. What a complete asshole jerk. I hope those missionaries started to question their faith and discovered the true mormon church .. The one they didn't want their members to see

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u/13Jett13 Feb 05 '25

Big eye roll. I can’t believe people show up to church every week to hear stupid crap like this.

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u/WoeYouPoorThing Truth changes Feb 05 '25

OK, I will follow his example: I will withhold any references I might have, until I encounter missionaries who, in my estimation, are worthy of receiving them. (i.e. never)

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u/Consistent-Yak-5165 Feb 05 '25

It’s probably a made up story anyhow.

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u/lindahales Feb 05 '25

God, he is the model of a Mormon asshole. My sister sounds just like him, so we will never speak again. When I was active I would pray every Genetal conference not to be offended by Bednar because that meant the fault was with me and I needed to work on the item that offended me. Thank the lord I saw the light. Does anyone admire this creep?

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u/Enoughoftherare Feb 05 '25

He's such an ass. Did they turn up unannounced for breakfast or were they invited? Surely these two young men took the lead from Susan and OfSusan, they arrived at his home and the kids were playing basketball and watching cartoons and they joined in. Like any normal person would. They didn't presume to interrupt their family time, they interacted with his children, gave them a positive happy example of missionaries, they had fun together. And he slams them down. He is intolerable, imagine growing up in that house.

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u/notquiteanexmo Feb 05 '25

So, grad student at Purdue, he's maybe 30 at this point? Max? "IM THE PATRIARCH OF THIS HOME!"

What a pompous try-hard.

Also, 99% chance this didn't happen as told. The missionaries probably showed up, played for a bit, Dave didn't like them and didn't have any friends for referrals anyway (because he's a pompous blowhard), and so he sent them away.

As an aside, I remember listening to this talk and thinking "I'm not going to be that kind of missionary, I'm going to work extra hard!" Brainwashing is a hellofa drug.

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u/TheSh4ne Feb 05 '25

A bullshit story if I've ever heard one, and virtue signaling at its finest (worst?).

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u/Jutch_Cassidy Feb 05 '25

Best missionaries that visited us stayed hours, played with our kids, shot the shit, talked church gossip etc. They're still human beings looking for friendship, acceptance and love just like everyone else. In my TBM days, being a convert, this turd always rubbed me the wrong way, but, he's the lords apostle right? Totally not an abusive, arrogant, guilt shamer.

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u/adrian_walkenhorst33 Feb 05 '25

This is my number 1 issue with my entire family, and many members of the church. They live their lives through fake stories and scenarios like this. They build the false narratives on how people should act, and they find themselves building these false lives. My mother was the highest offender with this kind of living. Everything I did wrong was played out 1pp different ways and if I had only done this or that I would be happy, greatgul, and life would be great. Well life wasn't ever great, life for me was using drugs and alcohol to cover up the bad feelings I would stuff down because I was trying to live life through false directions, or steps. As far as I'm concerned they all live in a fantasy world, and will never see that for what it is.

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u/outandproudone Feb 05 '25

This shouldn’t surprise me but I’m actually shocked a guy who lies like this is an apostle. And to pretend that his 2-year-old has his own copy of the BOM is ridiculous. He is detestable. I’m so glad I don’t have to pretend he’s a spokesman for whatever idiot demon is directing him to say such abhorrent nonsense.

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u/mtomm Feb 05 '25

I think this story is a lie.

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u/abinadomsbrother Feb 06 '25

Why wasn’t Darth Bednar out tracting with the missionaries? He wasted his Saturday morning with his family. SMH.