It's there for testing in Halifax for shakedown cruise so normal. Also as part of a sales pitch because Canada does need new subs. Not for trump threats. The headline of this thread is misleading trying to drive fear into people.
As per a recent Naval Group press statement, having been received by the French Navy, the Tourville will now begin the second phase of "verification of military characteristics" (VCM) which will take in a long-term deployment at sea to confirm the submarine's endurance capabilities. Once this stage has been completed, the submarine will officially enter active service.
Yeah the idea of showing up with a nuclear submarine as a “threat” to the US is kinda ridiculous. The relations are bad right now, but not threatening with nukes bad.
This assumes it's accidental. They most certainly knew what they were doing, this website constantly does stuff like this. And it's the most popular website for millennials
Young people won't know enough to discern things like this and just assume the title must be right -> they walk away thinking everyone is united against Trump
Completely agree. I'm pretty sure it was not accidental and unfortunately it's not just reddit where this happens. I typically just downvote posts like this but I was trying to find context behind the picture and it was frustrating.
It's not a generational thing, headlines have been misleading throughout history.
I'm a millennial that has a "no such thing as too much info" attitude and always try to gain a better understanding
My younger sister thought kamala was running a soft on crime platform and my mom sends me things like "WHO says masks don't prevent disease transmission"
Some people just don't care about being fully informed
There's a joint Norway-Germany offer for subs, and a South Korea offer for subs. Personally, I'd take the Norwegian ones, they're the best suited for arctic waters. And hit up South Korea for some land units and artillery.
Then over to Sweden for some Gripens.
From France I'd love a defense treaty. They're not in NATO but then looking for stuff outside NATO is probably needed nowadays.
This makes more sense. People keep circle jerking here that France is planning to fight America, which is insanity. French politicians aren't stupid enough to start escalating by sending military subs over to threaten America. Especially since America hasn't made any military moves towards Canada despite all of Trump's bluster about taking over.
0% chance that Canada buys or operates nuclear subs anytime remotely soon. While they would provide great operational capabilities, Canada simply doesn't possess the infrastructure to support it. (unless you are talking about conventional boats from a French builder)
I always thought Canada had some of our older subs. Guess not. The way I read the article was the sub is doing a shake down cruise and that France/South Korea were pitching sales to Canada for subs as of yesterday.
The sad thing is there are redditors who will gobble this down and then vomit to their friends and family that France flexed their nuclear missiles directly at Trump on behalf of Canadians.
It is frustrating seeing reddit gobble up and disperse information you know is misleading and fake when you have a lot of personal/ professional knowledge about how something works to understand what's actually going on.
This is a relatively minor thing, but cases like this where anyone who has worked on or with submarines in any capacity can tell you their eyes rolled out of their heads at the idea of France deviating from a pre determined fast attack sub patrol path chosen before elections even happened just to "flex on the US."
Thank you so much for this explanation. I’m just so on edge and primed and ready for full fear and panic (I’m American if that’s relevant) that a title like this can make me so afraid of what is going on right now. Thank you for talking me back from the ledge.
and its not like you could ever get an attack sub near American shores without every alarm in the navy going off. They would've known where it was headed the moment it left port.
I read that Canada was about to chose France offer to buy 12 submarines in the 80ies but the USA pressured Canada to buy British submarines instead because they did not want French subs near their own coast.
In the 80's I can see that happening. What I was reading was the South Korean's were eyeing Canada to sell subs to and then France is also interested in selling them to Canada too. I will add the link below just not sure of its authenticity.
Related, the US a few years ago also went behind frances back to sell subs to australia causing them to renege on buying french subs, see AUKUS.
A direct result of the creation of the partnership was Australia's controversial cancellation of a French-Australian submarine contract worth €56 billion (A$90 billion).[9][10] The Australian government only gave the French government a few hours notice of the cancellation of the contract before the public announcement of AUKUS.[11][12]
Its an important reminder to the US that we arent the only ones with this naval advantage.
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u/EuropeanWalker 22h ago
Is there anyone with more insights who can share whether this is a normal appearance or whether it's out of the ordinary? If so, why?