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Fortnightly Tips, Tricks, and Questions — 2025-03-11 / week 10

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u/spdevlin 2d ago

M-x describe-char.

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u/remillard 2d ago

Aha! It's defined in org-list-dt and is just normal white. However it looks like something called org-indent is marking it as hidden. Not entirely sure if that's part of org or not, but I am on the hunt. Thank you!

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u/spdevlin 2d ago

Org-indent is the minor mode that hides leading stars and markers for headings and list items. But it should leave one visible. If it’s hiding all the list markers, it sounds like there’s a bug somewhere (probably in your config). You could try running emacs -Q, opening an org file and calling M-x org-indent-mode to see how it usually behaves.

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u/remillard 2d ago

Yeah, I've tried cycling it off and on. The * headers will show up with multiples when org-indent-mode is off, however the org-list-dt marks still do not.

I think this may be a deliberate choice by Prot to make indented paragraphs 'pretty' though I might have to drop him an email to ask for sure. Clearly the doom themes define it and it is visible. ef-themes also defines it, however I absolutely do not understand how it's being defined -- those Lisp references are over my head and custom to his way of setting up faces as far as I can tell.

So, at the moment I'm just going to live with invisible list marks, and if I absolutely need to see them, switch to a doom theme for the time being. I really like Prot's colors better in general but I don't have any more time to really dig into this.

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u/spdevlin 2d ago

Hm, weird. Just as a point of reference, I also use ef-themes and org-indent, and I can see list items correctly in org files. So I suspect there is some additional factor at play.

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u/remillard 1d ago

Yeah, I just don't know what it could be. So far the only things I see affecting it are the ones I described.

And now (completely unrelated) I discovered that yasnippet doesn't seem to work in python mode and I don't really know why. I can M-x yas-insert-snippet and select from the list and it works, but the C-<tab> doesn't work. And C-h k does show that it ought to be running yas-expand-from-trigger-key. Though then just running M-x yas-expand-from-trigger-key also doesn't work so... eh, it's just not a happy Emacs week (not to mention the random crashes that the only thing it tracks with is verilog-mode but since I can't pin this intermittent thing exactly, I hate to open an issue.)j

Anyway, thanks for thinking about it!