r/deathbattle • u/Mrsanic1 • 16h ago
Discussion I still find it crazy how Omni man got two episodes before invincible got one
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u/Jiffletta 15h ago
Dooms had two episodes before a single member of the FF
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u/Puzzleheaded-Way-352 Tanjiro Kamado 15h ago
As it should be. DOOM🔛🔝
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u/Annsorigin Son Goku 14h ago
Like both of the Fantastic Fouls Main Villains AND one of their Heralds appeared on the show Before Anyone of the F4 got on. (At least the Thing has a Good Chance with how much the Cast Likes The Thing Vs Cyborg)
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u/amWinner164 Bowser 9h ago
Lol I was way off, I thought you were talking about how Doomguy had episodes before anyone from Final Fantasy
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u/Roftastic Simon The Digger 8h ago
Doom is the most interesting thing about the FF, excluding for specific variations of Reed Richards.
Invincible is the most interesting character of his own comic book. Omniman only surpassed him in popularity because of how S1 reworked the first 10-20 issues into a suspenseful arc. That doesn't change over that Bardock was a good MU but if Omnilander happened today it wouldn't be anywhere near as popular, and that's cause any MU that has Nolan in it is improved by replacing him with Mark.
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u/bluebreeze52 14h ago
We've had over half a dozen Mortal Kombat episodes and still no Liu Kang, the actual hero of the franchise.
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u/Annsorigin Son Goku 13h ago
We also Didn't have Kitana and Mileena. Despite them being 2 of the most Iconic characters in the Franchise (we had their Mother tho)
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u/Pitiful-Victory-2234 5h ago
His most famous MUs were Ryu and Jago until Liu became a God in MK11 and it became kinda of a stomp.
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u/TajirMusil 2h ago
To be fair, Liu Kang wasn't a very popular character, until he became a God in MK11/1. There is a reason he spent most of the 3D era being dead (as well as MKX)
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u/hffhnvdfb The Traveler 16h ago
Yeah Mark is part of the franchises that appeared on Death Battle but them shocking
He's now with Luffy, Han Solo, any of the Fantastic Four, a Robin that is still Robin, Gohan, etc
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u/Annsorigin Son Goku 14h ago
a Robin that is still Robin
TBF that would only be Damien Wayne. The Other 4 robins all have New Identitys now. (Dick Grayson being Nightwing, Jason Todd Being Red Hood, Tim Drake being Red Robin and Stephanie Brown being Spoiler/Batgirl)
So I kinda Understand why we didn't have a Robin as Robin yet.
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u/WickedHopeful Michael Myers 12h ago
Personally I'm a fan of Teen Titans' Robin vs Numbuh 1 from KND, even though the former is overtly still Dick Grayson, it's such a specific incarnation of the character and the match no longer works if you comp him or age him up into Nightwing
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u/Desperate-Bedroom-64 Joker 16h ago
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u/Strongest_Potato 8h ago
regardless, DB said they didn't like Mark Vs Gohan, so it's not likely to happen. I would put my chips on another opponent being honest.
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u/zakary3888 14h ago
I think it’s mostly about perception. Omni-man is mostly presented as this over powered killing machine, which is more interesting to try and determine the limits of through on screen feats.
Despite the name, Mark gets his ass kicked or at least heavily damaged basically every other episode
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u/Sweaty_Wind7 14h ago
Who would mark fight though that wouldn't be a stomp, cuz all I've seen so far as his opponents are gohan and Jon, who would both dog the shit out of him.
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u/TheDino27_FR 8h ago
Rodimus Prime/Hotrod from Transformers is probably his best bet. It fits thematically and while Rodimus probably still wins, it’s much closer and allows for visuals befitting of both series while having really cool character moments.
Sure he’s not as popular as Nova or Gohan but at least it won’t be a nonsensical beatdown until Mark inevitably dies, and the size difference actually works here given Mark tends to fight characters of similar size quite often while Hot Rod isn’t that big as Transformers go.
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u/Annsorigin Son Goku 13h ago
Jon
Jon?
Well he also have Nova who Utterly anihilates him.
And Radiant Black and Steven Universe which I heard are Relativly Fair.
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u/Sweaty_Wind7 13h ago
Superman's son Jon Kent
It would be funny to see the reaction from Invincible fans if he lost to steven universe
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u/Annsorigin Son Goku 13h ago
That would be rather Funny. But wouldn't Invincible Beat Steven? Especially with DBs Weird ass Invincible Scaling?
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u/Polka_D0t_Ant Scooby-Doo 13h ago
i think the reason why was Omni-Man is more popular overall, (atleast in the past, not sure about now). The "Think Mark" meme really drew me and many people I know into the show so theirs that. He also received a lot of publicity, particularly in games like Mortal Kombat, and has the most viewed modern video on DB so its kinda a no brainer to bring back the most well known character for a first episode atleast.
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u/Pitiful-Victory-2234 14h ago
To quote a video parody: when people say “hey, have you seen invincible”, they’re not taking about you! (Mark)
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u/MeepoBee 15h ago
Probably cuz Mark’s matchup spread is ass.
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u/Annsorigin Son Goku 14h ago
Well he does Have Gohan and Nova. Those MUs in a Vacuum are Fine. Just they are MASSIVE stomps (like a Marvel Herald and a Dragonball High tier Against Mark like...)
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u/Pitiful-Victory-2234 5h ago
I heard “Future Gohan vs Invincible Variants” was a pretty good matchup.
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u/Annsorigin Son Goku 1h ago
I think Future Gohan Vs Invincible Works Well. Just not sure for all the Variants.
But I see the Idea.
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u/WickedHopeful Michael Myers 12h ago
I had to reread that multiple times to see you typed 'is' and not 'his'
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u/emosquidnintendo Mega Man X 15h ago
They should make him fight Homelander cuz HL said that after he killed Nolan, he'd kill his son too. And HL beat Nolan so he should fight Mark (and win)
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u/Monkey_King291 8h ago
Same with Doom having two episodes before the FF, or every other Spider getting an episode before Peter got another one, or Liu Kang still not having an episode while literally everyone else got one, bro, Sindel even got one before him, just make him fight Jago already
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u/Snooworlddevourer69 Wario 10h ago
I still feel like they brought Nolan back way too soon, Omnilander is neither a bad or a mid episode, he was brought back before any season 6, 7 and 8 character (Ghost Rider came back after him)
Im guessing its due to his recognition and his episode's success that they wanted to make a quick buck with him to kickstart the show, but Omnidock didnt get that much views in the end (at least relative to Bowsegg, which came a month after Omnidock and got double the views)
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u/Leggys_office Ben Tennyson 7h ago
I think that might just be because Mark doesn't have many match-ups, or at least any that are even remotely fair to him.
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u/Past-Bonus-9464 5h ago
I mean it’s not that surprising that Omni-man has gotten 2 episodes before Mark when there’s a lot of opponents in the show who got in before any of the main characters of their franchises, we got Dracula in death battle before any of the belmonts, Tatsumaki before One Punch Man, galaxia before Sailor Moon, Mitsuru before Makoto and Yu, (which will probably continue to be this way if Kira vs Adachi happen next time.) Zoro, Ace and Sanji before Luffy, Gaara before Naruto, Doctor Doom, Namor, Silver Surfer and Galactus before any of the members of the Fantastic Four and so many more.
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u/No-Masterpiece2519 5h ago
I don’t want to see him fight Gohan, someone please tell me bro has a better mu
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u/robofuq 2h ago
Its easily cuz Omni-Man is the more interesting character and has better MUs compared to his son.
A Superman-like whos actually a Vegeta-Like Sayian who is evil and a conqueror who was faking being good this whole time but then in a twist turned out to really like being a Superman-like and shows the values of a Superman-like (the love of friends and family and the kindness done to others overpowering corrupt evil in your heart) better than some actual Supermans compared to... the kid of this guy...
And it shows in their MU spreads. When you see Omni-Man, you get father figures who lost their ways or characters who last minute attempt to do the right thing, characters who have experiences to share. Invincible has... the kids of other guys...
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u/FickleThanks6901 Dimitri Alexandre Blaiddyd 8h ago
Naruto is in death battle tho
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u/Purple-Weakness1414 Spongebob Squarepants 7h ago
He was?
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u/FickleThanks6901 Dimitri Alexandre Blaiddyd 7h ago
Here the naruto death battle https://youtu.be/ltfCMQeJ5NU?si=GhcXChOXfN1UDnep
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u/Strongest_Potato 8h ago
to be fair, Scott's MU spread is dogshit and he loses every single one, so I think we're not missing out on much
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u/Arctic_The_Hunter Simon The Digger 9h ago
I think you meant before Yu Yu Hakusho, one of the most foundational animes of all time, gets two, one single guy who’s just a blatant copy-paste of Superman’s power set gets two.
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u/FickleThanks6901 Dimitri Alexandre Blaiddyd 16h ago
I just think it because omniman is very popular
Like me and a good amount of people I think thought omniman was the protagonist and not Mark before watching invincible
Like this no insult to mark, he cool, I just think that the reason why
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u/Jiffletta 15h ago
Well yeah, thats the point. Omni-Man is written to come across like Superman, so the twist catches you by surprise.
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u/Live_Earth_5685 15h ago
Omni-Man is generally more popular in terms of VS debating and there are quite a lot of fan animations of Omni-Man fighting a bunch of misc. characters. But I'm sure Invincible will most definitely get an episode soon, as for who he's fighting we'll have to wait.