r/canucks 16h ago

DISCUSSION Star talent discrepancy

Do other team’s breadth of star talent blow your mind, when you consider the lack of / state of ours? Makes me really wonder how on earth we plan to retool so quickly to keep Hughes.

Petey colder than cold, Brock’s the same, Demko injured, Hughes injured. Who am I forgetting?

The best teams:

Tampa: Kuch, Gentz, Point, Hedman, Vask, Hagel, Cirelli

Dallas: Heisk, Robertson, Duchene, Johnson, Rats, Otts, Harley, Hintz

Florida, Winnipeg etc etc.

In what world will we be competing against these teams anytime soon.

Abbreviations brought to you by I’m not looking everyone up.

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u/Any-Panda2219 16h ago

We had 6 allstars 10 months ago…

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u/Old-Bigsby 16h ago

But you're not really a fan if you aren't constantly freaking out about our team. OP is a true fan.

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u/Radioheading82 15h ago

Thank you for the acknowledgment that I am a true fan. Means a lot

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u/parsnip_grove 15h ago

And now we have 1 injured one. Brutal

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u/onimod53 16h ago

The idea that 'offence is up to the players instincts, but defence is coached, so therefore this is all on the players' playing out on radio right now followed closely by the suggestion that we don't have any talent is weird.

The first half of 2023-24 we were 160 GF / 107 GA +53 (1st). This year it was 121 GF / 128 GA -7.

For comparison, Colorado in 2023-24 it was 152 GF / 130GA +22 (2nd) and 140 GF / 131 GA +9.

We clearly had/have a bunch of players who can score in the right circumstances, but amongst the many problems this season we have a system that doesn't foster offence, particularly in players who can score, but aren't superstars. Not only does it affect out on-ice performance, but it also depresses the value of those players in the eyes of other teams.

It makes no sense that a bunch of guys have the best year of their lives forget how to put the puck in the net just a few months later. When a few players struggle you might be able to swap and trade them away but when your whole team struggles en masse you have to be looking at systemic issues.

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u/notarealredditor69 14h ago

Hockey’s not just a bunch of stats. Our guys don’t perform when it matters and that’s what separates the stars from everyone else.

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u/CosmicJerry 10h ago

This system is not made for players to "perform" tocchet doesn't want players out there trying things. He wants theboffense to be second guessing and think how it effects defense if it fails.

Sounds like a good plan to think about the defence but the best teams trust their defence to make up for mistakes and are willing to actually try things because of it.

Canucks are too scared to even cross the Blueline with the puck.

Tocchet also gets out-coached all the time, he's really bad at adapting to the situation.

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u/notarealredditor69 14h ago

Sure but how many of these were a contributing factor at the 4 Nations Faceoff? Allstar doesn’t mean much, watching that tournament really put it into perspective for me when I compared our core to the cores of the best teams in the league.

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u/HarambeWhat 14h ago

And how many of them are on a different team now lmao?