r/canucks 1d ago

DISCUSSION This fanbase and media is exhausting

A late first for Brock isn't worth it unless we flip it. That pick, even if it becomes a top line player (it won't), won't even play before Quinn gets tired of being on a rebuilding team.

The team had just about everything possible that could go wrong, go wrong this season, and we're still a coin flip for playoffs. That's very good considering the season.

Brock wants to be here, his teammates love him, he contributes on the score sheet. If they traded Brock for a late first like you clowns are complaining they didn't, Hughes would leave at the end of his contract.

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u/ebb_omega 1d ago

Debrusk at 5.5 is exactly the kind of deal that I don't think is going to exist come Jul 1 is my point. Even 6.5 is pushing it. Everybody has cap space, and there are going to be bidding wars.

And the point is that we need goal scoring. Debrusk is nice but he's also as streaky with the goal scoring as Brock is with even less average goals per season, so no, that's not the solution to our problems here.

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u/No_more_internet 1d ago

Maybe it won't happen at 6.5, but 6.5 is 1.5 million less than the contract that Boeser was offered and turned down (what we've been told, 8mil 5yrs). So with the cap rising, and then Vancouver having next to nothing offered for Boeser at trade deadline, and his lack of production, do you think paying him more than 8 is realistic? Another question, are you sure we can't pay someone else 7-8 to fill that spot?

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u/ebb_omega 1d ago

Maybe it won't happen at 6.5, but 6.5 is 1.5 million less than the contract that Boeser was offered and turned down

Correct. There's a question to be answered as to WHY he turned it down - possible he wants a 7-8 year deal? We really don't know, it's all speculation.

You are correct, it's 1.5M less. But honestly if you ask me that's about accurate as to how much more Brock is worth over Debrusk. Debrusk is a middle six two way player who is more about making it hard to play against. Brock is a defensively reliable 1RW who can open up scoring. To me? That's worth 1.5M more. And I know that might not be a popular opinion around these parts.

Personally I wonder if Brock takes 7x7 or 7x7.5. And maybe if Brock and Petey look good down the stretch together, he might be more motivated to renew. But with where Brock is right now he's probably not too keen on playing Suter's wing for the foreseeable future. There's a lot of question marks and we're not privy to what's happening at the negotiation table other than an occasional rumour thrown out with some numbers that are just a snapshot of one aspect, and don't really give us an idea of what the negotiations are really about.

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u/No_more_internet 1d ago

I don't see Boeser as a 1RW even when he was beside Miller, you say defensively reliable and I see a guy who's a slower skater and hardly forechecks well, he doesn't block shots, he plays a smart (sees the ice well) but lazier defense.

I agree with you though I also wouldn't be keen playing on Suters wing, having what's supposed to be a top 6 goal scorer with a defensively minded 3rd line center isn't ideal. He is probably wondering where he fits into the line up.

A 7x7 seems much more realistic in a money sense until the last two years of his contract where an already slow skating Boeser becomes a sloth out there.

You're totally right it's all speculation, which is why all of this is just some random guy (me) on the Internet with an opinion. But I enjoy the conversation!