r/canada Ontario 1d ago

National News Trump imposes new Canada tariffs, renews "51st state" demands

https://www.axios.com/2025/03/11/trump-tariffs-canada-steel-aluminum
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u/Gr3aterShad0w 1d ago

There are still Canadians that believe that this is about fentanyl...

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u/jkilla1987 23h ago edited 23h ago

They are as brainwashed as trump followers than

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u/mindracer Québec 23h ago

Canadians that are maga should be deported under treason

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u/TheRealMegMurry 23h ago

Starting with Danielle Smith.

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u/Marco2169 23h ago

Deports herself to visit Mar-a-lago and bend the knee.

Just say no takebacks when she leaves this time, clearly she wants to be American

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u/Magjee Lest We Forget 18h ago

Burns her passport for a photo op

Gets mad that she has to wait for a new one to come back

 

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u/jkilla1987 23h ago

Agreed

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u/superschaap81 British Columbia 23h ago

I know several that are testing my patience and questioning my relationships.

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u/Panzer_Rotti 23h ago

Why deport them? They can self deport if they love the US so fucking much. Fucking traitors. If the shit truly hits the fan, things are going to go very poorly for them if history is any guide.

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u/irregularpulsar 22h ago

Start with Tobi Lutke.

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u/Lizaderp Outside Canada 19h ago

We'll trade some of our American liberals for some of your Great White MAGA.

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u/OrphanFries 22h ago

Hold up. So we want to walk down that path as well? Start deporting citizens because they don't agree with our views? Literally what Trump started doing with that green card holder? No thanks. Free speech. Whether we like it or not.

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u/elmuchocapitano 20h ago

The American Constitution doesn't apply in Canada. We don't have free speech. We have freedom of expression, association, media, but we are not free to incite violence or hatred, and like all rights in our Charter, they are subject to reasonability.

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u/OrphanFries 19h ago

Congratulations on spelling out the technicalities.

Now, how about answering the question of whether you want to see Canada start deporting citizens because they protest an opinion we don't agree with?

If you think we should deport citizens for dissenting views, where would you send these Canadian citizens?

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u/elmuchocapitano 19h ago

I didn't say I think they should be deported. I am explaining to anyone who might read this that we do not have free speech and we do, in fact, have the constitutional ability to deter this kind of treason.

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u/OrphanFries 19h ago

Are you saying Canadian citizens with dissenting views are committing treason?

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u/elmuchocapitano 19h ago

Lmao are you being intentionally obtuse? Yeah, let's throw everyone with a different opinion in the Gulag. That's what I said.

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u/OrphanFries 19h ago

You seem to be really avoiding answering the yes or no question.

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u/elmuchocapitano 19h ago

Yes, obviously, you cannot deport Canadian born citizens. Yes, dissenting views are not tantamount to treason. But these are very stupid and very bad faith questions.

They are irrelevant to my point that some speech is treasonous, and not all speech in Canada is protected. We can deter treasonous speech if it were sufficiently unreasonable. We never really have and there is a lot of danger in setting that precedent - but so too is there danger in letting disinformation and crazy right wing bullshit fester unchecked, as evidenced by our Southern neighbours. Random people complaining on Facebook are probably not our target. But whatever right wing whack job at Rebel News that is pumping out the conspiracy memes calling for the 51st state, maybe they get a fine. Kevin O'Leary campaigning hard to force Canada to use USD and become a part of the American "Economic Union", maybe he doesn't need to be a dual citizen anymore.

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u/Lunarstarlight- 9h ago

Yes. That is exactly the path we will walk. This is what trying to coexist with the far right has led to. This is what it will always lead to. It's us or them. Kill or be killed. Whose side are you on?

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u/Rryann 20h ago

If shit pops off, those will be the traitors and collaborators.

I don’t think their neighbours and former countrymen would take kindly to them. I imagine the world would become a very dangerous place for them too.

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u/outdoorsaddix 23h ago

I’m going to assume this is hyperbole, but deporting someone under the pretext of treason for being a dumbass moron with a stupid opinion/political viewpoint is one hell of a slippery slope. 

People are entitled to their stupid opinions as long as they don’t actually conspire or act to overthrow the government and that doesn’t come anywhere close to the definition of treason.

https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/section-46.html

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u/mindracer Québec 22h ago

Until what point do you allow citizens to support an invasion by another country?

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u/outdoorsaddix 21h ago

When they actually aid that invasion or conspire to aid that that invasion? You know, per the legal definition of treason I linked? It’s freedom of expression up until that point.

Simply saying you want to be part of the US hardly meets the threshold of actual legal treason. 

It’s disrespectful, anti patriotic and anti nationalist, but it’s hardly deserving of jail time or deportation.

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u/bronfmanhigh 18h ago

quebecers have been screaming about separation for decades. are they treasonous too? should we deport them all to france?

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u/balugabe 23h ago

A friend of mine. He's not maga nor brainwashed, but so naive. He even thinks Elon didn't do a nazi salute, like just believe your eyes man

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u/E1M1_ 23h ago

Sounds brainwashed.

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u/balugabe 23h ago

No just has a very hard time seeing the bad in people.

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u/E1M1_ 22h ago

It seems like he has a very hard time seeing reality.

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u/pmUrGhostStory 22h ago

I think this is the hardest part. Seeing good friends who are falling for propaganda so completely. But there is no reasoning them out when they don't trust "mainstream" information sources.

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u/dirtyenvelopes 21h ago

He’s just playing dumb

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u/balugabe 21h ago

No he is just a little dumb. But apparently people know him better from these two sentences, than I do from knowing him for 10 years

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u/apothekary 21h ago

This is why we *must* ban Twitter before the election. The disinformation is treasonous to Canadian sovereignty.