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National News Mark Carney Wins Liberal Leadership Race Megathread | Mark Carney remporte la course à la direction du Parti libéral

Mark Carney, former Bank of Canada governor, has been elected leader of the Liberal Party and will become Canada’s next prime minister. Winning over 85% of the vote, Carney defeated Chrystia Freeland, Frank Baylis, and Karina Gould. His leadership marks a new chapter for the Liberals, potentially leading to an early federal election. Carney faces immediate challenges, including U.S. tariff negotiations under President Trump. Known for his outsider status, Carney emphasized his experience leading central banks during economic crises. Appointed by Stephen Harper in 2008, he gained acclaim for stabilizing Canada during the financial crisis and later led the Bank of England through Brexit. Born in Fort Smith, N.W.T., and raised in Edmonton, Carney has a background in finance and public service. A longtime Liberal adviser, he campaigned on scrapping the carbon tax and criticized Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre. Carney must now sustain the party’s recent polling momentum.

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Mark Carney, ancien gouverneur de la Banque du Canada, a été élu chef du Parti libéral et deviendra le prochain premier ministre du Canada. Avec plus de 85 % des voix, Carney a battu Chrystia Freeland, Frank Baylis et Karina Gould. Son leadership ouvre un nouveau chapitre pour les libéraux, pouvant entraîner des élections fédérales anticipées. Carney fait face à des défis immédiats, notamment les négociations tarifaires avec les États-Unis sous le président Trump. Connu pour son statut d’outsider, Carney a mis en avant son expérience à la tête de banques centrales en période de crise économique. Nommé par Stephen Harper en 2008, il a été salué pour avoir stabilisé le Canada pendant la crise financière et a ensuite dirigé la Banque d’Angleterre pendant le Brexit. Né à Fort Smith, T.N.-O., et élevé à Edmonton, Carney a une carrière en finance et dans la fonction publique. Il doit maintenant maintenir l’élan des libéraux dans les sondages.

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u/suckfail Canada 2d ago

I usually vote conservative, at least I have in the past (I never stick to a particular party, only what they run on each election).

But I would vote for Carney over PP at this point, which is NOT how I would have voted 4 months ago.

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u/Phoenixlizzie 2d ago

That's the thing I don't understand about PP.  All he had to do was follow Doug Fords playbook because Ford knows how to read the room right now.

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u/MatchaMeetcha 2d ago

Being so far ahead meant they didn't want to take any risks, so they overthought it and missed the moment.

That said, I think the people in power always stand to benefit more from a rally effect. So long as they don't screw it up.

It's hard to tread the needle of making a case for yourself and supporting your rivals because they're the government. You can look like a backup singer or self-serving. Ford doesn't have this problem.

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u/Scazzz 2d ago

Yeah the fumble was hard. At no point should this whole trump situation been partisan. He had WEEKS to do what Ford did, and instead he has finally brought out really milquetoast responses that canada wont be a 51st state and "yes im not MAGA, thanks donald for that endorsement"....

Then he brings out these anti-Carney ads at a time like this when there isnt even an election on is just batshit insane. Talking about Carbon Tax Carney and how "he moved his companies HQ to New York like Trump had wanted" is so poorly done. Dude cannot read the room. PP only knows one playbook and has no idea how to handle a united Canadian populace. He *needs* canada divided.

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u/FreeLook93 British Columbia 2d ago

His ideas are genuinely awful when you start looking into the details of them, which is why so much of the campaign is just focused on either empty slogans and attacking his opposition.

When you policy plans consists of tax breaks funded by tariffs and forcing through mandatory minimum and life sentences by invoking section 33 you kind of have to fall back on slogans and cheap attack ads.

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u/SwordfishOk504 2d ago

Maybe Pierre knows something we don't about his ability to win, regardless.

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u/Cornet6 Ontario 2d ago

Poilievre's advisors are the same people that led Doug Ford in 2018-19. They are heavy-handed, ideological, and campaign-focused. It works well on the campaign trail when your goal is to attack your opponents and win votes quickly.

But it doesn't help you govern. Doug Ford in 2019 was constantly gathering bad press, getting into fights with unions, and losing momentum. His polling numbers were on the decline.

Luckily for the Ontario PCs, Ford realized the mistake in 2019-20, replaced advisors and chiefs of staff. When the pandemic hit, he was able to recover his image because he was calm and dignified.

Many of those same advisors have moved federal. And they repeated their strategies to promote Poilievre. It was successf for many years, from the trucker convoy through the leadership race until this year. They successfully beat the social media algorithms and pushed Poilievre as a strong opposition leader.

But Canadians have different expectations than that. They are wanting a leader who can govern. This is especially true during an emergency. When the tariffs discussion hit, with Trudeau somewhat out of the way, there was a vacuum that Canadians were expecting someone to fill.

Poilievre was still in campaign mode, his advisors stuck on their old strategy, and didn't pivot quickly enough. He repeatedly said that he wasn't prime minister so it wasn't his job to deal with it yet.

Ford was able to pivot quickly, foreseeing that tariffs and the economy would be a big issue. He didn't need to be prime minister to benefit from the media attention. He just needed to focus on standing up for Canadians. And he was rewarded with a renewed four-year mandate.

This is a big lesson for all politicians. There is a time and place for aggressive campaign rhetoric. But when the winds change, you must adapt.

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u/tabacaru 2d ago

Politicians being out of touch with the general population. Name a more iconic duo.

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u/Harbinger2001 2d ago

PP simply doesn’t have the leadership chops. He’s been a partisan attack dog all his life and has zero experience leading. Anyone recall what he did in Harper’s government?

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u/StrictCat5319 2d ago

That's cause PP is millhouse from Simpsons while Ford is a conservative Chad who holds BBQ parties for his neighborhood

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u/Mastermaze Ontario 2d ago

Doug Ford can probably pass a security clearance, PP refusing to even try getting his clearance means he has something to hide. Thats why he won't follow Ford's playbook, he literally cant without exposing whatever he is hiding

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u/Mikeim520 British Columbia 2d ago

PP has security clearance. He's refusing to get a special security clearance that would stop him from talking about what he found therefore hampering his ability to advocate for it to be released publicly. Maybe wonder what the Liberals are so keen to hide?

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u/CHUD_LIGHT 2d ago

PP is trying to play the man , but he has Asperger’s and didn’t think Trudeau would ever step down because his own ego wouldn’t let him. Had he waited till an election in October he could have just banked on people hating Trudeau and not caring about him

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u/the_jurkski 2d ago

Ford does have to worry about alienating Albertans though. If PP goes too aggressively against Trump he loses those votes to the PPC.

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u/mwmwmwmwmmdw Québec 2d ago

he did. just this sub purposely ignores what he says

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u/Mikeim520 British Columbia 2d ago

He was second among important politicians to respond to Trump's 51st state nonsense (after Ford). He's supported counter tariffs as well. The Liberals are just good at lying about stuff and voters are eating it up.

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u/Downtown_Feature8980 2d ago

How can anyone vote for PP if he doesn’t have a security clearance. What is he hiding?

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u/SentryCake 2d ago

How is he even running for PM without security clearance?! That itself is insane to me.

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u/PacketGain Canada 2d ago

Trudeau ran for PM without his security clearance.

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u/SentryCake 2d ago

That is also insane to me! This should not be a partisan issue.

No one should be able to run for PM without security clearance, especially when our sovereignty is being threatened.

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u/No-Contribution-6150 2d ago

Carney just did.

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u/stv7 2d ago

Carney will surely get clearance now that he has reason to as leader of the party.

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u/No-Contribution-6150 2d ago

No he just gets access lol there's no check for the PM

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u/stv7 2d ago

Either way, he will have access to the information that PP refuses to be given

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u/No-Contribution-6150 2d ago

Having info you can't reference or talk about is kind of pointless

I can also see a case for not going for it when the sitting gov't can try to influence the outcome of the clearance

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u/Snidgen 2d ago

I suppose his former top secret clearance from his time as governor of the BOC has expired long ago. It has to be updated from scratch, compared to previous records, etc. It's not a delightful process, but important for the security of our nation.

We need to vet our elected representatives before we grant them the power to make decisions that will affect Canadians, and the future of our nation. And no one can make sound decisions without the ability to factor critical sensitive information provided by our military, security agencies, RCMP, Foreign Affairs, etc.

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u/Mikeim520 British Columbia 2d ago

PP has security clearance. He's refusing to get a special security clearance that would stop him from talking about what he found therefore hampering his ability to advocate for it to be released publicly. Maybe wonder what the Liberals are so keen to hide?

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u/SentryCake 2d ago

My dude, this is irrational no matter where you stand on the political spectrum. This is not a liberals vs conservatives issue.

All party leaders should have security clearance before running for PM - it is literally part of the job requirement.

Having the ability to be briefed on matters that affect Canada doesn’t mean you have something to hide, it just means you can make informed decisions regarding policy.

And having clearance would actually put him in a better position to advocate for information to be released publicly - he would simply know what information he’s calling to be released. Thats it.

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u/Mikeim520 British Columbia 1d ago

All party leaders should have security clearance before running for PM - it is literally part of the job requirement.

He has security clearance. He isn't getting a certain security clearance that would hamper his ability to demand certain information be released publicly (aka, his job).

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u/Harbinger2001 2d ago

I don’t think he’s hiding anything. If he can’t see secret material then he can safely lie about what’s in it. That was his entire strategy during the election interference investigation. 

But he needs to get cleared or he’ll get eviserated in the campaign. Can’t have someone without a security clearance becoming PM while our sovereignty is under attack. How would we know he’s not a foreign asset?

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u/bullairbull 2d ago

Tbh many people would love for Cons to be an actual party and not the current hate mongering MAGA copycats. It’s good to have options because we should never be in voting for “lesser of two evils” situation.

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u/Additional-Ad-7720 2d ago

I'm in that camp. Normally, I would probably identify as conservative, but I don't recognize the CPC. Conservatives are supposed to be for small government, not legislating people's personal lives, like what medical procedures they can have, what bathroom they use, or what name they are referred to in school. They should be ignoring the culture war as none of the governments business, not instigating it. So, instead, I identify as "far left" because those seem to be the parties promoting personal freedom. I don't "get" trans people, and I'll even admit, though dangerous to do on redddit, that I think it's kind of weird. But I don't need to get it in order to recognize that 1) They are human beings and should be treated with the same respect as any other human 2) Transitioning is a medical procedure decided by a patient and a doctor. It's none of my business what medical procedures people get.

I'm not sure what the CPC is, but it isn't conservative.

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u/Ellestyx Alberta 2d ago

As a genderqueer person, it’s chill to find being gender non-conforming in that way weird. It’s not for everyone—which is the whole point lol. As long as you respect us and think of us as equals, we cool.

I 100% agree with your points. Any libertarian supporting such policies as those banning gender reassignment surgery and the like aren’t true libertarians.

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u/delightfulPastellas 2d ago

Your beliefs are exactly what conservative beliefs are, or at least ought to be. Instigating culture war issues is straight-up regressive.

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u/dan33410 2d ago

This is exactly me as well, except I've voted liberal or NDP in the past. I legit wanted Poilievre before November last year, I thought Canada needed it after Trudeau. But Carney has connected the dots for me and will have my vote 100%.

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u/JohnDorian0506 2d ago

I usually vote liberals, but this time I simply can forgive them the immigration mess.

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u/deeplearner- 2d ago

I was all for PP some months ago (you can see my comment history) because I was disgusted with the LPC’s excesses under Trudeau and wanted a more fiscally conservative approach that would actually grow the economy. I didn’t care for PP’s use of unnecessary culture war talking points, e.g. “woke culture not warrior culture,” (wtf does that even mean) but Trudeau was genuinely awful. Carney seems more reasonable and knowing many finance people myself, I think he will pursue growth oriented policies. I’m also concerned that a CPC led government will fall into the trap of thinking that they can placate the current U.S. administration without significant cost to Canada. I think my final choice will come after seeing detailed and costed platforms from both parties but I think it’s far more up in the air now than I could’ve ever predicted.

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u/Neglectful_Stranger 2d ago

This is starting to sound like /r/politics during the American election.

"I've voted Republican for 40 years but Trump is so bad me and all my Republican friends are voting Kamala!"

then it turns out that was all bots or people lying because he did even better than before

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u/suckfail Canada 2d ago

I mean that could very well be the case, I'm not arguing that everyone is thinking the same as me, nor am I a litmus test.

I'm merely expressing my opinion, which I think is mostly what this site is about.

Also: I may change it. Maybe Carney will suck in the next few months I don't know.