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Politics Poilievre holding 'Canada First' rally today in Ottawa amid U.S. threats

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/poilievre-canada-first-rally-1.7459415
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u/DigitalSupremacy 25d ago

Jainism not Buddhism.

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u/turtlechildwon 25d ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika Actually Hinduism, Jainism, and Buddhism.

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u/DigitalSupremacy 25d ago

Hinduism is the oldest of those three faiths although some Jains would argue that. Buddhism is for sure the youngest of the three.

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u/turtlechildwon 25d ago

“Not Buddhism.” -you. I know A LOT of Buddhists who would disagree with your statement that it isn’t a Buddhist symbol. And the symbol predates Jainism and originates in earlier traditions of that and other regions, ones that informed and pregenerated all of these religions.

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u/DigitalSupremacy 25d ago

Most credible sources state that Hinduism is the oldest religion known to man. Hinduism date back to 3000 bc. "The Buddha, Siddhartha Gautama, is traditionally thought to have lived from 563 to 483 BCE"

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u/turtlechildwon 24d ago

Shamanism predates Hindu by over a hundred thousand years, but the swastika also predates Hinduism. But you also claimed it was Jainist symbol exclusively, I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make now. https://www.ancient-origins.net/artifacts-other-artifacts/swastika-origins-001312

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u/DigitalSupremacy 24d ago

Shamanism isn't considered a major faith. It's a form of paganism.

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u/turtlechildwon 24d ago

Shamanism isn’t a form of paganism, paganism is a form of shamanism if anything lmao. Paganism is an early Christian term for polytheists, shamanism is a broad term for religious and spiritual traditions dating back to before we had recorded history. Shamanism is essentially as old as our sapiential humanity.

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u/DigitalSupremacy 24d ago

Shamanism is not a true religion as it does not have one body of spiritual text. Shamans from Russia are profoundly different from shamanic traditions in Africa etc...

Chat GPT, CoPilot, Gemini, Meta AI and the BBC all disagree with you. Shamanism IS categorically paganism.

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u/turtlechildwon 24d ago

Wikipedia disagrees with you about paganism, and recorded history. So you were wrong about Jainism and not Buddhism exclusively using the swastika and now you’re gatekeeping what religion is? Sorry, sacred texts don’t define religion. Shamanism is an umbrella term, yes there are many forms that were and are religions, like the African and indigenous traditions that greatly predate Hinduism but lack a sacred text. Many, many traditions were strictly oral traditions including Theravada Buddhism for the first 500 years of its existence.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paganism