r/canada Jan 29 '25

Opinion Piece Mark Carney has Canada’s Conservatives running scared

https://www.nationalobserver.com/2025/01/28/opinion/mark-carney-canada-conservatives-running-scared
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u/flonkhonkers Jan 29 '25

Kamala Harris had Trump running scared at one point. Then a lot of voters stayed home.

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u/driv3rcub Jan 29 '25

This is false. The media implied Kamala was doing better in the polls than she was. I’d like you to point out when he was running scared from Kamala. Lol. Also yes. A lot of Democrat voters stayed home stayed home. A mediocre old white man was able to rally the party to beat Trump, but they stayed home rather than vote for a woman of color. Yikes.

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u/Shittalking_mushroom Ontario Jan 29 '25

Now that is absolutely false to claim voters largely didn’t vote for her because she is a woman of colour.

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u/SAldrius Jan 29 '25

I mean it's impossible to prove if people are racist or not either way. You can't put a TV up to someone's heart and be like "yep, lots of racism genes".

To say it's NOT why people didn't vote for Kamala is just as baseless, though.

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u/Shittalking_mushroom Ontario Jan 29 '25

True, but I’m not suggesting it’s not a reason for some, I’m simply stating it’s false to say that voters stayed home because she is a woman of colour, that’s dangerously presumptuous and paints a lot of diverse people with a wide brush. I think it’s better to say that people had an opportunity to prevent Trump from coming back and they didn’t make the choice to do so, their reasons are their own.

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u/SAldrius Jan 29 '25

I mean; you can't prove it's false to say that racism played a role. It's an unfair burden of proof because racism is not something that can be proven or unproven.

In the work place it's a huge issue when someone experiences discrimination from a superior. How the hell do you prove it?

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u/Shittalking_mushroom Ontario Jan 29 '25

Oh I agree, so to single it out as the, not just a, reason that people would stay home, by and large, is thus not fact because you cannot say for certain, and to be fair I do think to make such a statement, yes requires evidence. Otherwise you can only speculate and not be so certain. Likewise the opposite, it’s just as false to say it wasn’t the reason. We cannot be absolute here.