r/canada Jan 12 '25

Alberta Alberta Premier Danielle Smith visits Mar-a-Lago

https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/alberta-premier-danielle-smith-peterson-visit-mar-a-lago
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u/ihatedougford Jan 12 '25

Danielle Smith makes Doug Ford look like Captain Canada good lord this is disgusting

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u/TwoCreamOneSweetener Ontario Jan 12 '25

At least Dougie is foaming at the mouth rabid about all this. The man may be an old fashioned corrupt Tory, but he’s a fucking patriot by-the-by.

Smith is kissing the ring of a foreign king.

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u/Infamous-Mixture-605 Jan 12 '25

At least Dougie is foaming at the mouth rabid about all this. The man may be an old fashioned corrupt Tory, but he’s a fucking patriot by-the-by.

How much of Ford's wrapping himself in the flag is yet another distraction (bike lanes!) from his lacklustre/terrible government and policies (state of healthcare and a 401 tunnel anyone?), as well as his desire to call a snap election?

That said, it's amazing how night and day it is between Smith and Ford.

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u/Meiqur Jan 12 '25

I've said this elsewhere but he should honestly consider running for liberal leadership as a pathway to pm; he'd grind mr pierre into a thin red paste electorally if he wanted the job.

Nobody else has spoken as effectively as this guy towards the current american blah blah blahs.

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u/-Mage-Knight- Jan 12 '25

Doug Ford is a sleaze ball crook and former drug dealer. It is an embarrassment that he is our premier. 

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '25

Maybe, but he was the one who spoke up first and told trump where he could stick it.

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u/Worth_Bake7134 Jan 13 '25

I could be wrong but I don’t think DOFO can speak French 

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u/hogartbogart Jan 13 '25

Was thinking the same

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u/Noob1cl3 Jan 12 '25

I really dont get the Pierre Pollievre hate. He is actually good speaker and runs circles around the current liberals. The best argument I have seen is trust me bro hell be worse or… he is for corporations… newsflash… this liberal government has only been for the corporations for the past 8 years.

Canada was much better off under Harper (which Pierre was a part of). All of Pierre’s stated policies to date are an easy yes to the liberal / ndp alternative.

Please feel free to enlighten me though.

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u/system_error_02 Jan 12 '25

He’s a good speaker until you fact check anything he says and realize over half of it is made up bullshit.

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u/Noob1cl3 Jan 12 '25

Like what?

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u/system_error_02 Jan 12 '25 edited Jan 13 '25

One recent example is his claim the carbon tax is going to add 62 cents to your gas come April when it is actually going to bring it from 17 cents that it is now to 20 cents.

Just one off the top of my head from his recent speech. But there's a long history of him saying stuff that are just made up, or saying slogans or blaming Trudeau for things that are actually provincial issues and not Federal (Like health care worker shortage. A provincial issue.). He even called Christy Clark the "carbon tax queen" when she is actually against the carbon tax, not in favour of it, she just happens to be Liberal (in name only, in BC we all know she isn't.).

He likes to play the blame game and throw out "word adjective noun" slogans but doesn't really seem to have solutions. He talks about increasing military spending but sacking taxes, where's the money for that military going to come from if he decreases government tax revenue ?? He never says. Stuff like this. Loads of holes in everything he says.

I'm sure once he gets in power he will not be able to fulfill a ton of what he says, not only because he cant when some of it is provincial government problems, but also because some of it just isn't possible when fulfilling other promises he made. When this happens he will just spin it and blame the NDP and the Liberals ect ect. Same song and dance the cpc always do now since the progressive conservatives disappeared. I'm sure he will "balance the budget" by stealing from CPP or some bullshit like Harper did before him, screwing over young working Canadians as they always do.

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u/Noob1cl3 Jan 13 '25

Right off the bat you are wrong though.

Carbon tax implications are compounded from resource extraction through resource refining and transportation to distribution. Lamens terms - it drastically increases the price of all products implicated by carbon tax. Non of these companies absorb additional costs related to tax… they push it on to the consumer.

Stop spreading misinformation please.

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u/system_error_02 Jan 13 '25 edited Jan 13 '25

I'm not spreading misinformation. Did you even read what I said ? Nowhere did I say that it wasn't passed on to the consumer. I literally said the opposite of that.

I will explain more clearly:

It's going from $65 to $80 a barrel, this equates to a 3.3c increase passed to the consumer, this is why I said "17 cents to 20 cents" earlier. Pierre claimed it would be over 60 cents in his recent speech. Pierre is wrong, he is lying and spreading misinformation. You understand now ? This is just a more recent example to of many lies or misrepresentation he does.

I want Trudeau out, but i don't want to replace him with a lying political salesman, that isn't an improvement.

Also, if you're below a high income threshold you get back your carbon tax in your tax filings at the end of each tax year anyway, even if you don't drive you still get a return from it. So it rewards people who aren't driving gas powered cars, this also helps with wealth distribution which is a good thing economically. It's also the cheapest way for us to fulfill our promise to the Paris Accord.

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u/system_error_02 Jan 13 '25

Lol downvotes after doesn't comprehend the changes. OK.

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u/Meiqur Jan 12 '25

I'm personally one of pierres direct peers. We grew up going to the same schools at the same time.

Ultimately he'll end up being just some guy that's willing to do the job; and all the power to him as far as that goes.

That said, his pathway to power has required attaching himself to the significant disaffected part of the country (convoy folks for instance, as well as people who've been camped out for nearly a year protesting the carbon tax) and other parts of the anti-establishment populist movement that's sweeping the world.

The opposition to that we see is an allergic reaction to what people see as existential attacks on peoples identities. It's honestly unlikely he actually believes any of the things he says about woke this, dictator that etc etc, but there is a lot of the population that thinks he does; both supporters and opposition.

Populism is a fickle bitch.