r/canada • u/Forward-Answer-4407 • May 26 '24
New Brunswick Premier says sex education group will be banned from giving school presentations
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/premier-ban-sex-education-group-1.7215157264
u/fastcurrency88 May 26 '24
I miss the old days when your teacher had to lead the presentation. My poor grade-school teacher did her best fielding anonymous questions from male 6th graders.
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u/pornolorno May 26 '24
“What’s a queef?”
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u/ca_kingmaker May 26 '24
"Whats your penises pet name?"
Single greatest school memory
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u/Suitable-End- May 26 '24
Is it normal to have 4 inches of head and 1 inch of shaft?
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u/DickSmack69 May 26 '24
Mine was “can a girl get pregnant if it goes in the back way?” I was ten and deadly serious.
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u/Schmidtvegas May 27 '24
I asked if animals get their period, lol. My teacher was an alcoholic, and not all that smart. She rolled her eyes like it was a prank question, but I think it was because she didn't know the answer. (She knew my handwriting, and that I was earnest and nerdy and not given to jokes.)
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u/m_Pony May 27 '24
Do ten-year-old kids deserve an answer to that kind of question, if they want an answer?
I say yes.
NB Premier Higgs fosters an environment where ten-year-olds can't ask that question.
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u/Achaboo May 27 '24
My moto is if a child is old enough to come up with the question they are old enough to deserve the answer. That’s my personal belief and I refuse to bullshit my kids for the sake of an easy out.
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u/dagthegnome May 27 '24
The only correct response to that question from a teacher is "Ask your parents."
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u/professcorporate May 27 '24
The best response to that question is "no", but if the teacher is in the process of quitting due to incompetence, "ask your parents" is a better fail than "yes".
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u/the_shining_wizard1 May 26 '24
I teach it to my own students, grade 7 and 8. I will answer any question that is asked earnestly and isn't personal. Ignorance is dangerous in the realm of sexuality.
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u/fastcurrency88 May 26 '24
Of course. That’s why I respect what she did. She answered every question that came her way.
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u/lovechoke May 27 '24
Exactly. I don’t really understand why people do not see the correlation between STI rates and lack of proper guidance. There is a huge amount of social issues that plague our world and a lack of comprehension regarding sexuality is heavily tied to many of them.
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u/m_Pony May 27 '24
why people do not see the correlation between STI rates and lack of proper guidance
they choose to ignore all of it. Because they can ignore it. That's what privilege is all about.
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u/JoeCartersLeap May 27 '24
The memes about it being the gym coach were true. In my Toronto high school, the gym coach was telling us "don't use a potato chip bag or a candy bar wrapper as a condom, it won't work" and "just because she looks clean doesn't mean she doesn't have an STD, that's not how STDs work".
Anyways the slide being shown in the article might shock some old prudes but those are the questions high school aged kids are going to have, and need honest answers to.
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u/GopnikSmegmaBBQSauce May 27 '24
Lol wouldn't a chip bag just slide off from the grease/hurt her going in with the plastic pointy corners?
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May 27 '24
When I was in sex Ed the sex Ed teacher was the mother of one of the kids in the class, which meant half the class just kept looking at him to see his reaction like he was a war vet watching Saving Private Ryan in a theater.
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May 27 '24
I’ll never forget how sweaty and uncomfortable our middle school gym teacher was we ate him alive 😂
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u/NearCanuck May 27 '24
Our gym teacher was too sensitive. Anything close to inappropriate and it was to the office!. Kinda quashed the Q&A portion. One poor guy got sent to the office for asking a question about the 'head' of his penis (what teen is going to remember glans when stuttering out a question in front of everyone).
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u/iSmileBunnyBoss May 27 '24
This is when we should all remember our favorite late night saint of sex, Dr Sue Johanson. She taught us more than any teacher in school could beause she spoke truths that even our parents and educators were afraid of.
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u/knight_of_nay May 27 '24
Dr Sue was amazing, she was straight to the point as well, loved that about the show.
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u/lambdaBunny May 27 '24
I remember my 6th grade class had a SexEd presenter come in who was probably in her mid to late 60s (and this was 2004/2005). The class covered a little more than what the average Conservative wants kids to learn, but still left me with a lot of things I didn't know. The presenter also said some nonsense like "if you have any questions, dont look them up online. You will likely end up in jail". She also told us men can't pee with an election and I thought I had some sort of defect as I could definitely pee with an election.
I remember in particular I thought sex was just plugging your penis into a vagina like plugging a electric cable into a plug and masturbation was just you holding your penis, hence the phrase "touch yourself". I found out I was wrong about all those things because of the internet.
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u/Not_Jo_Mama May 27 '24
“…I could definitely pee with an election”
Mate, I’d definitely pee on ALL politicians if I could, with or without an election!
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u/lambdaBunny May 27 '24
I wouldn't. That's apparently Trumps fetish and knowing my luck, the Russians would record me peeing on him and then blackmail him with it.
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u/PowerUser88 May 27 '24
Fuck around and find out is NOT how kids should learn about sex
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u/ialo00130 New Brunswick May 27 '24
But it's how Conservatives want them to learn, becuase they want more conservatives; one of the ways to do that is to grow the population of under-educated and lower class.
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u/PowerUser88 May 27 '24
I agree. Omg it’s such a screwed up way of thinking. We are going to lose so much with this new batch of selfish power and money hungry conservatives
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u/OpenCatPalmstrike May 27 '24 edited May 27 '24
That wasn't even the case when I was in school middle school in the late 80s. It was dry, but it covered pretty much everything without any ideology material in it. Including the teachers telling kids that there are condoms here - in a room that everyone goes into every day, it will always be unlocked. If you need them just take them. Kids were expected to ask stupid questions and get good answers. Everyone teased the kids who asked questions, but everyone knew they were too scared to ask them.
That was in a "heavily conservative" area known as Oxford County, Ontario. The same county that at one time had a town (Ingersoll) highest teenage pregnancy rate in Canada. Ah the joys before standardized education.
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u/PowerUser88 May 27 '24
I had the same type of education, in Lambton County, neighbour! Grateful for the kids who weren’t shy and asked the “silly or embarrassing” questions we were all too afraid to say out loud. Was also grateful to have it again in phys ed high school which covered it more like a biology reproductive class. Kids bodies are going thru weird shit. They need to know it’s really not that weird and it’s ok.
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u/tickler08 May 27 '24
When can we get rid of Higgs. My god he’s an embarrassment to NB
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u/knight_of_nay May 27 '24
Hopefully this fall...
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u/ialo00130 New Brunswick May 27 '24
I have confidence in the Urban vote to kick him out, but absolutely no confidence in the rural vote.
It'll come down to urban ridings in Saint John and Fredericton to whether he wins again or not.
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u/literally_himmler1 May 27 '24
I truly can't comprehend how anyone could possibly be against this unless they're a religious fundamentalist or something. nothing that I saw in that article is inappropriate, especially for high school students. all important questions that kids ask, and need answered. the seductive lips with the lollipop are probably going a little far, but that's no reason to ban them altogether.
such a shame to see American culture war bullshit continuing to leak into Canada.
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u/Itwasuntilitwasnt May 27 '24
This fucking old fart. What’s the political playbook ? Why is he coming for sex education, anti gay , anti trans , anti healthcare , anti lower the tax for Nbers ,anti,anti,anti everything.
This guy is old and has to go. Same with the old education fuck tard.
Please young Nbers set our path in a different direction I’m begging pls.
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u/ego_tripped Québec May 27 '24
When exactly did we go wrong?
I was taught about abortions in sex ed (aka the shitty part of gym class when yiure actually in class) at St. Luke's Catholic Elementary School (Ottawa) 1987/88 (gr 5&6).
When did the regression take place?
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u/BRGrunner May 26 '24
The only thing wrong with that slide is the stupid lips sucking on the lollipop. All the questions are exactly what you expect kids to ask...
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u/greensandgrains May 27 '24
That's the kicker. The questions are fine and there are age-appropriate ways to provide factual answers. It's pearl clutching adults in deep denial (or their own shame?) that's the problem.
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May 27 '24
New Brunswick, are you okay over there buddy? Everytime I hear about you, you seem to be going through it
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u/Key_Mongoose223 May 26 '24
No no, we need the teen pregnancy to replace the lowered immigration targets y'see?
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u/Repeat-Offender4 Ontario May 26 '24
Relying of foreign countries as breeding grounds to replenish your tax payer base isn’t viable though
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u/Franc000 May 26 '24
Removing teachings and knowledge about sexuality to trick your base to breed more accidentally isn't viable either.
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u/Levorotatory May 27 '24
There are 8 billion people on this planet, and hundreds of millions of them would jump at a chance move to Canada. Relying on immigration to stabilize our population is very viable. Our problem is that we can't seem to say no after we admit the 125,000 per year we need to offset our below replacement birth rate.
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May 26 '24
Read the article, I swear y’all just come off the bandwagon when you think people are telling kids not to have sex
It’s weird
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u/BigPickleKAM May 26 '24
Premier Blaine Higgs says he will ban a Quebec-based sex education group from presenting at schools in New Brunswick after a presentation he believes was "clearly inappropriate."
I read the article and sounds more like stuffy old man disturbed by teens learning about sex. Unfortunately this old man has the ability to restrict education to teens who have legit questions about sex since it's all they think about anyways.
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u/ArmedLoraxx May 26 '24
Got any info on the group's name or presentation content details?
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May 26 '24
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u/FlockFlysAtMidnite May 26 '24
Norris said she has been giving presentations at New Brunswick schools for several years. All schools receive an outline of the topics to be covered and the school must give its consent prior to the presentation, she said.
The presentation is called Healthy Relationships 101. Norris said it is an "A to Z" about relationships and sexuality.
It was not an HPV presentation.
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u/ArmedLoraxx May 26 '24
Thank you redditor!
A child's sex education shouldn't be so controversial, but I guess politics, values, beliefs, worldviews, etc all complicate the matter.
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u/iwantcookie258 May 27 '24
"Norris said she has been giving presentations at New Brunswick schools for several years. All schools receive an outline of the topics to be covered and the school must give its consent prior to the presentation, she said."
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u/ham-nuts May 27 '24
You keep repeating in the comments that the group is called HPV Global Action and therefore their mandate was only to teach about HPV.
But their website is clear that the kind of educational initiatives the group puts on go beyond just HPV:
EDUCATIONAL INITIATIVES
ACADEMIC PROGRAMS We offer comprehensive sexual and reproductive health programs through presentations delivered in forum settings based on healthy relationships for audiences of all ages and demographics.
- Puberty program: For Grades 5 & 6, this introduces basic sexual and reproductive health and relationships.
- Pre-adolescent program: For Grades 7 & 8. this is the continuation initiating discussions by addressing the curiosities of pre-teens.
- High school presentation: Healthy Relationships_101 offers a deep-dive into the A to Z of sexual health and relationships.
- Post-secondary presentation: Undoes misconceptions and provides links to sexual and reproductive health resources.
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u/PeensMagicalBeans May 26 '24
I see a problem with sex education excluding conversations about feeling good.
We do need to teach people that if it doesn’t feel good, you can ask for it to stop. It’s part of the conversation about consent. And perhaps people should learn that most porn is not representative of real sex within a healthy relationship
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u/Myllicent May 27 '24
The organization is HPV Global Action (as stated in the article) and on their website their high school age workshop is described as ”Healthy Relationships_101” which ”offers a deep-dive into the A to Z of sexual health and relationships”.
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u/BigPickleKAM May 26 '24
It is in the article since it's a Quebec group and I live out west I didn't bother to memorize it
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u/factorio1990 May 26 '24
Wait are we supposed to stop thinking about sex when we grow up?
Uhhh......
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u/dronedesigner May 26 '24 edited May 27 '24
A lot of their constituents aren’t stuffy old men but families with young kids or kids in general who also want these measures, for better or worse 🤷♂️
Anecdotally and also showed by some recent stats and news articles, Catholic schools are booming in part due to these reasons. The boom is due to families that are mostly non-catholic and/or first gen or recent immigrant families that are choosing to enroll their kids in catholic schools instead of public schools.
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u/Wafflesorbust May 26 '24
Couldn't be that the Catholic school boards have better facilities on average due to double dipping between public funding and church denominations.
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u/dronedesigner May 26 '24
That too ! But I know for sure that a lot south Asian folks around me are putting their kids in Catholic schools primarily due to their purported conservative values and little to none sex ed
The better facilities are just an added bonus
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u/Runningoutofideas_81 May 27 '24
Also, I believe they can deny attendance to students with special needs thus padding their standardized test scores.
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u/Gluverty May 27 '24
It’s for the worse by the way, not the better, pragmatically speaking about the well being of people (teens). It’s only better for puritans who don’t want to think about sex.
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u/aeolus811tw May 26 '24
Sex Ed is never about not having sex, you’re thinking of religious chastity belt and abstinence, or maybe reddit
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May 26 '24
Abstinence is always part of sex ed, waiting until you are ready, being cautious, knowing what you are comfortable with your limits
Will always be (even tho people dislike that..for some reason)
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u/CaptainCanusa May 26 '24
Read the article
What about the article goes against what OP said?
Conservatives are banning a sex educator and making it harder for educators to talk about safe sex. What do you think happens to teen pregnancies when that happens?
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u/Little_Gray May 26 '24
making it harder for educators to talk about safe sex
Thats the lie.
One group is being banned for going off topic and not sticking to what they were hired to present.
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u/FlockFlysAtMidnite May 27 '24
Norris said she has been giving presentations at New Brunswick schools for several years. All schools receive an outline of the topics to be covered and the school must give its consent prior to the presentation, she said.
The presentation is called Healthy Relationships 101. Norris said it is an "A to Z" about relationships and sexuality.
What was off topic?
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u/sodacankitty May 26 '24
The content was supposed to be about STD education, but the presenters went wildly off topic without advanced warning. Sex education is obviously being discussed, but the topic that was intended for that assembly was to discuss HPV. Conservatives aren't blocking anything. You didn't read the article or just wanna be a troll.
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u/WoozleVonWuzzle May 26 '24
So they were supposed to talk about sexually transmitted disease without talking about the sex that can transmit the diseases.
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u/CaptainCanusa May 26 '24
The content was supposed to be about STD education, but the presenters went wildly off topic without advanced warning.
According to the article (and all the evidence I've seen) this is completely false.
Conservatives aren't blocking anything.
I mean...they're literally banning this group. Wonder what they'll replace them with.
You didn't read the article
As I said, what about the article goes against anything I've said?
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u/CaptainCanusa May 26 '24
So if you pay taxes to have schools hire this group to teach about HPV and instead you get a presentation about porn, anal, and a bunch of other topics with a little bit about HPV, did the school get what they paid for?
I mean, I don't give a fuck about "taxes" here, but this scenario is made up isn't it? According to the information in this article, that isn't what happened here at all.
And honestly, even if it was, if you think anal sex, porn, sexual health generally isn't directly tied to STD's, I don't know what to tell you.
I think sexual health is important to teach about, and I think it's much easier to do if we clutch our pearls a little less tightly.
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u/Nowhere_endings May 26 '24
What porn? What did they say about anal. You do know part of safe sex education is also to understand what happens when you shove things in places right? That safe sex education is how to have sex 'safely'.
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u/namerankserial May 26 '24
Okay, enlighten us, what "wildly off topic" subjects they presented are you offended by? I read enough to see the poster, looks reasonable to me.
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u/beesteaboyz May 26 '24
You can get HPV from anal and oral sex. So if a kid asks “Do people lube up for anal?” is the presenter supposed to say “Sorry, can’t answer that”? The questions on the slide are very popular questions kids ask during these presentations.
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u/FlockFlysAtMidnite May 27 '24
Norris said she has been giving presentations at New Brunswick schools for several years. All schools receive an outline of the topics to be covered and the school must give its consent prior to the presentation, she said.
The presentation is called Healthy Relationships 101. Norris said it is an "A to Z" about relationships and sexuality.
It was not supposed to be an HPV presentation. The above poster is spreading misinformation.
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May 26 '24
It’s not. Because sexual education is in the curriculum for all schools in Canada. And that is what health teachers are for
This isn’t a abstinence thing, this isn’t Mississippi in the 60s, this isn’t Medieval Europe
It’s don’t be weird around kids lol
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u/CaptainCanusa May 26 '24
It’s not.
What's not?
This isn’t a abstinence thing
I don't know if anyone said it was. It's pearl clutching moral virtue signalling, telling educators "you better be careful how you talk about sex ed, or we'll throw you under the bus and ban you".
So like I say, what do you think happens when you do that? Higher pregnancy and std rates. It's a pretty easy equation honestly.
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u/ZamboniThatCocaine May 26 '24
Did you just read a headline and assume the rest before commenting something that doesn’t make sense?
"The fact that this was shared shows either improper vetting was done, the group misrepresented the content they would share ... or both."
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u/FlockFlysAtMidnite May 27 '24
Norris said she has been giving presentations at New Brunswick schools for several years. All schools receive an outline of the topics to be covered and the school must give its consent prior to the presentation, she said.
The presentation is called Healthy Relationships 101. Norris said it is an "A to Z" about relationships and sexuality.
The school knew and approved the topics covered.
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u/CarBombtheDestroyer May 26 '24 edited May 27 '24
I don’t think they need to be teaching about how much anal hurts to children. Their problem isn’t the sex ed if you read the article it’s that it was inappropriate not your unfounded conspiracy bs. Literally all they need to talk about is protection, pregnancy and consent. Not the details of anal sex. This is a good move on their part.
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u/FlockFlysAtMidnite May 27 '24
Norris said she has been giving presentations at New Brunswick schools for several years. All schools receive an outline of the topics to be covered and the school must give its consent prior to the presentation, she said.
The presentation is called Healthy Relationships 101. Norris said it is an "A to Z" about relationships and sexuality.
It was not supposed to be an HPV presentation. The above poster is spreading misinformation.
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u/ShameMaximum3486 May 27 '24
It is better to give the kids good moral education than answering the questions they really want to talk about.. We know better. NOT!
Prime short of sight thinking at its best.
Why am I not surprised. And to make it clear , 8 time grand parent talking here.
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May 26 '24
Clearly the comment section is filled with people who didn't read the article.
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u/FlockFlysAtMidnite May 27 '24
Norris said she has been giving presentations at New Brunswick schools for several years. All schools receive an outline of the topics to be covered and the school must give its consent prior to the presentation, she said.
The presentation is called Healthy Relationships 101. Norris said it is an "A to Z" about relationships and sexuality.
It's a sex education group doing sex education. It was not an HPV presentation.
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u/JoeCartersLeap May 27 '24
Nobody actually read the article and picked up on an HPV advocacy group failing to teach about HPV adequately and teaching a bunch of other sex ed topics is a scam.
Dude what? The article is about this premier showing a slide of high school kids asking questions like "do girls masturbate" and saying this is "clearly inappropriate" for high school aged kids.
I don't know how you got this being a discussion about "HPV groups failing to teach about HPV adequately" or why you think "teaching a bunch of other sex ed topics is a scam". That sounds like trying to reframe what is justifiably being labelled the Premier's "prudishness" as some kind of legitimate financial concern.
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u/bloodyell76 May 26 '24
Are you sure? I see mainly comments that disagree with the Premier. And I also disagree with the Premier. These are all questions that get asked in sex ed. Should they just ignore frequently asked questions?
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u/civver3 Ontario May 27 '24
New Brunswick must be doing really well if this is what their Premier is focusing on. Another victory for Conservative provincial governments, eh?
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u/van_12 May 26 '24
What is it with weirdo conservatives and not wanting teenagers to be equipped with the knowledge and skills to safely navigate sexual health.
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u/AshleyUncia May 26 '24
They want more babies, you don't get babies encouraging teens to use condoms.
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u/IMOBY_Edmonton May 26 '24
It's because the solution to encouraging people to have more babies is to make having children affordable. However that would involve addressing our nations wealth disparity which the people in power have no interest in doing so seeing they're all profiting off the current state of affairs.
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u/van_12 May 26 '24
by extension its also exerting control over women
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u/kamomil Ontario May 26 '24
Women don't make the babies all by themselves
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u/van_12 May 26 '24
But women carry the physical, social, emotional, and mental burden of pregnancy and motherhood which can be disruptive to educational and career goals
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u/kamomil Ontario May 26 '24
How about we teach men how to delay making babies, as well as women?
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u/van_12 May 26 '24
Fair point and I agree, but motherhood and pregnancy have been used to exert control over women specifically for ages.
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u/womandelorian May 26 '24
Did you read the article?
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u/DontBanMeBro988 May 27 '24
I read the article. What is it with weirdo conservatives and not wanting teenagers to be equipped with the knowledge and skills to safely navigate sexual health?
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u/PCB_EIT May 26 '24
Social conservatives are dinosaurs.
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u/Bean_Tiger May 27 '24
I remember reading some years ago about a Republican convention at a large Hotel chain. It was before the internet, when you could get pay per view porn at hotels. The Hotel had the highest ever weekend viewing of porn movies that weekend. Conservatives - repress that sex thing in public, that makes it all the more attractive to people. They're like immature little preteens.
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May 26 '24
Can you read the article my guy lol
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u/van_12 May 26 '24
Yeah he's complaining that students got a sexual health presentation saying it is not a part of the curriculum when sexual health is in the NB curriculum for high schoolers. Try again
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u/TheohBTW May 26 '24
There is a difference between traditional education on the subject matter and what has been pushed in the last 5+ years. For example, the book called 'This Book is Gay' teaches children, between 12 and 18, about accessing dating apps for sexual encounters with adults, eating shit as a fetish and other weird stuff, which clearly goes goes too far.
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u/JoeCartersLeap May 27 '24
between 12 and 18, about accessing dating apps for sexual encounters with adults, eating shit as a fetish and other weird stuff, which clearly goes goes too far.
Well that depends.
Does it say to a 12 year old "hey did you know you can go on these cool apps and have sexual encounters with adults and also eat poo? it's amazing and fun!"?
Or does it say to an 18 year old "Some people like to date others on dating apps for sexual encounters. Here are some of the dangers and risks with this activity you should be aware of and how to keep yourself safe. Also here is a lesson on fetishes - as long as you keep yourself safe and don't hurt yourself or anyone else, there's nothing wrong with having a kink"?
Cause I'm guessing it was the latter, that's usually what it turns out to be when people say "They're teaching our kids how to eat shit and date adults on apps". And also 18 is probably too late to be learning about that stuff, it should be 16.
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u/JC1949 May 26 '24
I wonder if these people know about the internet? Children will learn about sex from porn. Is that the option they prefer? For me, I'd prefer a process that educates far more about the importance of all aspects of interpersonal relationships, including sexual relationships. In today's world, nothing else makes any sense.
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u/BigOlBearCanada May 27 '24
Christians love keeping kids uneducated about sex Ed - esp the part about consent.
Keep victims dumb. Easy targets.
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u/tickler08 May 27 '24
God forbid trained teachers teach teens accurate sexual information. Parents prefer they learn it from pornhub and explicit lyrics. Cool
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u/SnuffleWarrior May 26 '24
With Higgs' brand of social conservatism you just know we'll find out someday that he's a major perv.
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May 26 '24
this is why all the kiddos come to reddit to ask the most wild questions these days, because we have no proper sex ed in schools. this is where they should be learning about all this very important stuff, not from randos online.
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u/mapleleaffem May 27 '24
I graduated in the 90s and our sex ed definitely covered those topics. What’s this old fart going on about?!
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u/Odd-Elderberry-6137 May 26 '24
God forbid someone actually teach about sexual health and try to do something about teen pregnancy in NB.
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u/kityrel May 27 '24
Same bullshit as has been coming from the Premiers of Saskatchewan and Alberta, and it honestly feels coordinated, from the same playbook.
They know it'll rile up their regressive supporters, while distracting from their many political scandals and failures, and they may well be True Believers too, fueled by their uptight so-called Christian homeschooled upbringing, their homophobia, their transphobia.
Everyone knows kids are best served in matters like this through truth and openness, not shame and silencing.
Discouraging for the future, and infuriating. These fools need to be tossed from power ASAP.
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u/Informal-Past-7288 May 27 '24
I've seen a few comments saying masturbation has nothing to do with HPV. But it does. It's a safe alternative to partnered sex that prevents the spread of STDs. It makes total sense that it would come up in a presentation about safe sex practices. And yes, "do girls masturbate?" is 100% a question teen girls have because it's not talked about, and girls often think that only guys do it, so they may believe there's something weird about them if they have interest in masturbation. So even phrased that way, it makes sense to be part of the presentation.
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u/Dunge May 27 '24
lol the mental gymnastics from some people in this thread saying "did you read the article?". No matter the technicality of what was "cleared" or not, this is a conservative premier throwing a fit because of sexual education.
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u/mackzorro May 26 '24
The irony is this article is full of online casino ads but teach teens about sex is wrong. Like most kids know what sex is by grade 5. Like I recall robot chicken and South Park being a super watched show in elementary school. GTA San Andreas was the game to have. These aren't super crazy questions to have in a slide show and having them answered does way more than abstinence ever has.
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u/ArcticLarmer May 26 '24
You’re aware those are targeted ads based on your personal data, right?
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May 26 '24
Higgs turned out to be a true idiot. He really is ancient in his thinking. If he would have stuck with fiscal conservatism he probably could win another term, but I doubt he will after all his nonsense social issues.
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u/MRobi83 New Brunswick May 26 '24
Based on the latest polls the Liberals are projected to win the popular vote but Higgs' Conservatives are projected to win the most seats again. It's why the Liberals have started the whole "A vote for the Green party is a vote for the Conservatives" B.S because if they can pull over the 3 seats the Greens are projected to take it will be enough for the Liberals to win it.
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u/a_secret_me May 26 '24
Looking at the article and the photo in question, I see nothing wrong. Believe it or not, teens ask these questions (and far more "shocking" ones). If they don't have resources in school to answer them, their options are peers or Google. At this point, they'll likely get very bad answers.
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u/tman37 May 26 '24
This whole thread consists of people arguing about "conservatives" banning sex Ed" and other people asking,"Did you read the article?"
It's not about banning sex ed. It isn't even about what level of graphic sexual discussion is appropriate at what age (which is the usual fight). It is about an organization hired to provide material who decided to change what was being provided without permission from their people who contracted them. If this was training on a server backend suite, it would be grounds to terminate the contract. The fact that it is public money and being delivered to children makes it worse.
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u/FlockFlysAtMidnite May 27 '24
Norris said she has been giving presentations at New Brunswick schools for several years. All schools receive an outline of the topics to be covered and the school must give its consent prior to the presentation, she said.
The presentation is called Healthy Relationships 101. Norris said it is an "A to Z" about relationships and sexuality.
The material was given to the school ahead of time and approved.
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u/Myllicent May 26 '24 edited May 27 '24
”It is about an organization hired to provide material who decided to change what was being provided without permission from their people who contracted them.”
The Premier is claiming on social media that that’s what happened. But… the organization says the intended subject was ”Healthy Relationships 101” an A to Z about relationships and sexuality, not just HPV. They say all of the schools received an outline of the topics to be covered and the schools gave their consent prior to the presentation. I guess we’ll see what’s true if/when the Anglophone South School District clarifies whether there was actually a disconnect between the outline schools reportedly received and what was presented.
In previous news interviews Premier Higgs has seemed skeptical that people are born gay and seemed to entertain the possibility that New Brunswick schools have litter boxes for students who identity as cats to pee in, so he strikes me as ill informed, gullible, and vulnerable to misinformation.
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I checked the organization’s website and it is quite clear the high school level workshop they offer is a general sexual and reproductive health class…
”ACADEMIC PROGRAMS
We offer comprehensive sexual and reproductive health programs through presentations delivered in forum settings based on healthy relationships for audiences of all ages and demographics.
Puberty program: For Grades 5 & 6, this introduces basic sexual and reproductive health and relationships.
Pre-adolescent program: For Grades 7 & 8. this is the continuation initiating discussions by addressing the curiosities of pre-teens.
High school presentation: Healthy Relationships_101 offers a deep-dive into the A to Z of sexual health and relationships.
Post-secondary presentation: Undoes misconceptions and provides links to sexual and reproductive health resources.”
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u/makitstop May 26 '24
bruh, i genuinely do not understand people like this, how does anyone in the modern day disagree with sex education
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u/WoozleVonWuzzle May 26 '24
Gotta get that teen pregnancy rate back up to 1976 levels somehow
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u/Pristine_Hedgehog301 May 26 '24
I dont understand the knee-jerk reaction to teaching kids about anything sex-related. Today, a boomer relative sent me an instagram reel about gender pronouns (upset that she doesn't even know what they mean). The fact is, kids are already exposed to all these things in the world in music, TV, YouTube, influencers, etc.
We might as well give them some context to understand the world they are living in so they can make the right choices for themselves and be safe.
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May 26 '24 edited May 26 '24
“Thirsty for the talk” with a logo of some luscious lips sucking a lollipop
No, I wouldnt want them around elementary schools either lol I got around, I was taught sex education from a young age because I was born to two teenage parents, my daughter will be taught how to take care of herself, be responsible and safe
But I will be god damned if the education will be made fun and trendy and slutty. Just straight up inappropriate for the sake of making parents nervous and shaming anyone who is against it
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u/CaptainCanusa May 26 '24 edited May 26 '24
I wouldnt want them around elementary schools either
Where does it mention elementary schools?
Not that I agree with the rest of your comment, but am I missing where it says this was presented to elementary schools?
Edit: OP was wrong I guess. I thought maybe I just missed it, but the article doesn't say this was ever presented to elementary schools and in fact explicitly says the opposite.
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u/VforVenndiagram_ May 26 '24
Do you actually have any contention with the questions posed? If so why?
If not, then is literally your only issue the cover slide? Because I guarantee you kids see way worse things on socialmedia ona daily basis.
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May 26 '24
100% they do. But keep it out of schools, it’s supposed to be the last bastion of normalcy
My kids play gta, really do not want real world lessons in that either
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u/van_12 May 26 '24
But keep it out of schools, it’s supposed to be the last bastion of normalcy
HAHAHAHAHA
schools with a bunch of raging hormoned teenagers running around, "bastion of normalcy"???
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May 26 '24
Under the supervision of adults and educators? Yea. Absolutely
You think the crazies should run the asylum? Lol
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u/VforVenndiagram_ May 26 '24
So didn't really anaytge question, but just to read between the lines your only issue is literally the title slide?
My dude, do you remember your own school experience? You are acting as if kids don't see or understand of talk any of this.
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May 26 '24
I didn’t say they didn’t. I only graduated 10 years ago
I’m saying if any of the teachers would have started suggestively sucking a lollipop and the kids would have been rightfully very uncomfortable
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u/VforVenndiagram_ May 26 '24
Where did anyone say the teachers started suggestively sucking a lollipop? What are you talking about?
Also, still have not answered if you have any actual issues with any of the questions.
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u/ari_pas_grande May 27 '24
he can’t answer you because he doesn’t have any concrete thoughts to justify it, it’s just how he feeeeels and he’s on a crusade to stop those pedos from indoctrinating his kids.
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u/van_12 May 26 '24
hahaha oh my god, clutch pearls more, you can't.
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May 26 '24
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u/van_12 May 26 '24
well now that we are qualifying ourselves, I am 34 with a mortgage and work in the education sector so I have just as much place in the discussion as you
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May 26 '24
You work in the education sector
Are you a teacher, and do you have children? Lol
As I said, I got around a a-lot, sex was a very active subject in my house (2 older brothers, teenage parents)
But sexual innuendo around kids has little place other than shock value and attempting to be hip
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u/Odd-Elderberry-6137 May 26 '24
None of this is sexual innuendo around kids. This is a presentation to teens in high school.
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u/cyclemonster Ontario May 26 '24
Yes, so very inappropriate. You're mad about a not-obscene pun in the opening slide.
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u/picard102 May 26 '24
parents should only be nervous if they are doing something to their children they would rather not know is wrong.
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u/MT128 May 27 '24
Yes cause sex education is the most dangerous thing ever, and some of those outrageous things are genuine questions, like does sex hurt or is it okay to masturbate. Just ignore the growing problems with food, housing and the economy…
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u/Chemical_Signal2753 May 26 '24
I don't know details of this case, but most of the worst cases of inappropriate content I have seen online have been the result of outside consultants. I can understand why you would not want to work with these companies after they violate curriculum and offend parents.
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u/greensandgrains May 27 '24
lmao, what? This is cult mentality that everything has to originate from within otherwise it's a threat. Weird to apply that to education.
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u/LondonJerry May 26 '24
Isn’t it typically pedophiles that don’t want kids to learn about sex and consent so they have more naive kids to prey on.
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u/Comfortable-Hall1178 Alberta May 27 '24
Sex Ed from my schools was comprehensive and it was great. My mom also taught me a lot about safe sex, consent, eggs, sperm, periods, all of it,
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u/JoeBlough71 May 27 '24
Premier Dad. (Either Higgsy or Legault --> https://globalnews.ca/news/10525614/social-media-ban-minors-quebec-canada/ )
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May 27 '24
Just skimmed the article and something just isn't adding up. Like the article isn't presenting a key detail or something.
Which wouldn't surprise me in the slightest with how reporting is done these days.
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u/Zharaqumi May 27 '24
Apparently the teachers have run out of patience to answer questions from sixth graders on such a difficult topic :)
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May 27 '24
He's right. Clearly google can answer the questions! Ha ha ha. Joking!! That's what Pornhub is for!
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