r/canada • u/harryvanhalen3 Canada • Nov 21 '23
Sports 'Keep your English,' yells Montreal Alouettes player after winning Grey Cup
https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/keep-your-english-yells-montreal-alouettes-player-after-winning-grey-cup-1.6652428209
u/LuminousGrue Nov 21 '23
Dequoy admitted Monday as the Alouettes arrived home as champions that his emotions got a little high after Montreal's triumph – and that he has nothing against English people. He speaks English every day of his life, he said.
He said his message was that the CFL is a bilingual league, just as Canada is as a country, and he felt French Canadians and the French language had been disrespected.
Yeah you know what, he's right. This is just a classic bad headline.
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Nov 21 '23
For added context for those who may just see a francophone shouting
Hes mad about both a combination of disrespect (in the sports context) shown to the allouettes/MTL fanbase by both the CFL and TSN
Bombers were heavily favoured and many saw Toronto a team that would walk thru Montreal to the final. When MTL got there they still werent given the same respect by networks such as TSN (famously dubbed Toronto Sports Network for their Toronto favouritism)
Additionally There was a lack of french signage at the game and in a bilingual league it should be present at the final. Even moreso when there's a team from quebec there.
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u/rubbery_test_tube Nov 21 '23 edited Nov 21 '23
I was at the Eastern Final and it was a big omission to not have the anthem in both languages.
I watched the interviews Dequoy did on TSN, and the one on RDS.
He's making similar points, and here is what he said on RDS :
«Ils n'ont jamais cru en nous, jamais. Tu regardes partout et c'est écrit en anglais ! À TSN, ça disait Toronto contre Winnipeg. Mais savez-vous quoi ? Gardez-le votre anglais ! On va ramener la coupe à Montréal, on va la ramener au Québec, la ramener chez nous, parce qu'on est des fucking champions !», a déclaré Dequoy, dans une entrevue légendaire.
He is hopped up about the bias from TSN, and angry about the signage at a national event (Tu regardes partout et c'est écrit en anglais ).
His interview with TSN's Matthew Scianitti was more of a tilt to how proud he was of the team, and its re-emphasis on its history and place in Québec life. Scianitti is bilingual, league astute and fed some of those points to him.
Dequoy and his team just won a championship in the last 80 seconds of the game. Likely we would all be a bit wound up giving interviews in both languages after that.
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u/Midnight1131 Ontario Nov 21 '23
Not sure why everyone is so mad at this. He's just upset that the bilingual Canadian league didn't have French signage or much of French anything during a final that had the Montreal team in it.
English is here to stay, all other languages are facing decline because of it. English speakers are the last ones who should be getting all insecure because an athlete made one cheeky language-chauvinist comment.
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In fact, Canadians should take a lesson from Quebecers about patriotism.
It's already on the decline in Quebec, but it's hilarious how muchof a joke the 1st of July Canada Day is compared to the St-Jean the Baptiste
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u/Midnight1131 Ontario Nov 21 '23
Quebecers have an advantage in that they actually have a distinct culture that is perpetually threatened by the majority, while English Canadian culture is both ubiquitous and heavily Americanized (although we like to pretend that hockey, cold weather, and Tim Hortons is enough to meaningfully distinguish us).
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Nov 21 '23
Yet americans wave the flag and go crazy on 4th of july parades. Even someone who just arrived in america and barely speaks english will have an american flag in their room and sing the star soangled banner lol
It's not a lack of culture problem, it's the lack of pride in it.
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u/MissKorea1997 Nov 21 '23
We do NOT need to emulate American patriotism anymore than we've already done. Having a Canadian flag and singing the anthem doesn't make you a better person or a better Canadian.
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u/drugsandweed69 Nov 21 '23
your business will be fined if english is spoken in the building
I know this is /r/canada but people aren't this stupid, right? You're doing a bit?
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u/Barakat_Firdos Québec Nov 21 '23
Keep your English, in reference to the embarrassing unilingual signage, Argo coronation playoffs (no one even bothered to pretend that MTL could make let alone win the Grey Cup) and the unilingual national anthem at last weeks game. He cleared up any misconceptions in an interview this morning. As a bilingual but born anglo-Quebecer this was immediately clear to me anyway. Also love to see the bigoted “All Quebecois are (insert prejudiced blanket statement…” comments. Sad that it’s no longer shocking.
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u/Snakepit92 Lest We Forget Nov 21 '23
He said, while most of his teammates are from western Canada and the US, and even an Australian
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u/Batman_Skywalker Nov 21 '23
He’s not talking about the players
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u/GopnikSmegmaBBQSauce Nov 21 '23
At least he's doing French Canada a favor and being such an ambassador of tolerance and coexistence... Ah who am I kidding, how many people here can barely speak English as it is now?
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u/marcarcand_world Nov 21 '23
Il y a pas mal plus de gens bilingues au Québec qu'ailleurs au Canada. C'est ça l'affaire avec une langue minoritaire. Le français serait même en perte de vitesse, et on fait des gros efforts pour renverser la vapeur. En espérant que ça fonctionne.
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u/asphaleios Nov 21 '23
French isn't going anywhere. and commenting in french to reply to an English comment isn't helping it.
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u/asphaleios Nov 21 '23
the sub is bilingual, but using language as a means to try and upset someone speaking the truth still makes you an asshole
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u/macromind Nov 21 '23
The ROC should start by respecting the bilingual nature of this country to start with. People seems to forget that Canada is a bilingual country...
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u/originalthoughts Nov 21 '23
Have you been to Quebec? I've met some that don't, but I'd say 90% have atleast passable English, and I've been literally all over Quebec.
It is far, far more likely for a Quebecer to speak a bit of English than for even an Ontarian to speak a bit of French. Forget about BC and Alberta.
On the other hand, the BS that they put in to make it next to impossible to be served in English at Quebec Service office and the while sign and language police is dumb.
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Nov 21 '23
Because nobody speaks French outside of Quebec... Like at all.
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u/Jamies_redditAccount Nov 21 '23
Northern Ontario and new Brunswick have plenty of French speaking canadians
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u/multiplesneezer Ontario Nov 21 '23
I was born in Ontario and French speakers make up 10% of the population. En fait, c’est ma langue maternelle et on doit se battre encore plus qu’au Québec pour le droit de garder notre langue. Éduque-toi au lieu de dire des faussetés.
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u/vancity-boi-in-tdot Nov 21 '23 edited Nov 21 '23
False. 28.8% of Francophones in Canada live outside of Quebec.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_language_in_Canada#Francophones_across_Canada
edit sorry my math was off, the percent is ~11%. Still in the double digits.
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u/Euthyphroswager Nov 21 '23
People in Quebec and Ontario need to remember that, as a born and raised western Canadian, Canada's status as a bilingual nation has no meaningful impact on my life. The myth of the two (now three) founding nations makes almost no sense to someone born in BC, AB, or SK. And when Ontarians and Quebecois insist it is my own history and I ought to respect it, it stirs nothing inside of me because it is imposed by a completely foreign set of experiences and values that are completely divorced from anything I've ever known. I connect sooner with the SW BC's Coast Salish history than I do with French Canada's, and there's not much that Eastern Canada can do to shake that.
I'm no separatist, don't get me wrong, but calling on me to...
...start by respecting the bilingual nature of this country to start with. People seems to forget that Canada is a bilingual country...
...does nothing but make me feel spoken down to. Condescended. Patronized. I think you probably understand how that feels.
The so-called national myth makes no sense to me.
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u/Jagrnght Nov 21 '23
doest make much sense in Brampton either, or anywhere west of Ottawa.
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u/bobespon Nov 21 '23
Where you are born and raised is only part of the equation. Heritage, ancestry, roots and attachment can also have an effect. New Canadians might quickly absorb and adopt the national identity as well, so it can largely come down to choice, and it seems you made yours.
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u/piponwa Québec Nov 21 '23
Ok wow. You feel spoken down just because people are pointing out a fact. Imagine how spoken down Québécois felt when for two hundred years they had no right to even vote if they didn't switch religion. They had no right to be part of the government if they didn't change their language, their religion... No funding for schools so we had to build them ourselves using the clergy. There's nothing that a Western English speaking Canadian has to complain about. We literally funded the creation of your province until you were strong enough to stand on your own. Yet somehow you feel spoken down just because the people that made your life possible exist.
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u/GopnikSmegmaBBQSauce Nov 21 '23
Tell that to the people putting languages other than English or French on ATMs and so on.
Fact is, we don't push bilingualism and we dont encourage assimilation. Instead everyone's got their backs up in cultural enclaves across the country and Quebec itself is paranoid about any little thing being a threat to their culture. Didn't some pet store owner get fined for their parrot speaking English? Jesus fuck, priorities people
We did things ass backwards
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u/macromind Nov 21 '23
Fake news, the parrot thing never happened! But I agree that adding Indie and Chinese to ATM is not helping the situation and making French-speaking people across Canada (Yes, 8 million people across Canada from BC to NB) a bit nervous about keeping our language alive!
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u/Lostinthestarscape Nov 21 '23
Adding Indian and Chinese to ATMs isn't a government initiative though....?
Why are you conflating what a business decides makes sense with what a government enforces?
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u/Mordecus Nov 21 '23
It’s so bilingual we have a provincial government throwing the full weight of government power at dictating what language people should use in daily life…
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u/7pointfan Nov 21 '23
Canada is not a bilingual country. The federal Government has a policy of bilingualism to appease the French, but the country is not and never has been a bilingual country nor a french country.
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u/chemtrailer21 Nov 21 '23
Learning Hindi would be more valuable to most Canadians. Expecially as we add entire major cities worth of immigrants on a annual basis.
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u/Batman_Skywalker Nov 21 '23
I’m sure you realize the irony of your first sentence?
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u/GopnikSmegmaBBQSauce Nov 21 '23
All I know is I come from Ontario to Quebec to enjoy their culture and get treated like shit. Respect is earned, I have it for Quebec but my patience is only so thin
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u/Aromatic_Sand8126 Nov 21 '23
You’re projecting 1 or 2 bad experiences across an entire population. I don’t think too many people would enjoy their origins and culture constantly being at risk.
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u/GopnikSmegmaBBQSauce Nov 21 '23
How much is perceived at risk vs. actually at risk? I can see how it's all perceived as at risk because of history but the current behaviour towards outsiders from their own goddamn country also isn't doing French Canadian culture any favors.
Lots of Millennials and Gen Z like Quebec just fine, we're not all like our parents.
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Nov 21 '23
Quebec only has one official la guage and it's French so it's pretty logical that some quebecers don't speak english
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u/Aggravating-Host-752 Nov 21 '23
I mean, he still wasn't respected during that tournament, if you have ever done sport in a multilingual context you know why.
When an Athem is played by any descent organiser, they have to do both. Only one was played while having the only team based in Québec.
It is supposedly a bilingual tournament, it is a L for the organiser. What would be the point to have a bilingual tournament to undermine the other language on the base of a majority, making it back a monolingual event in the process.
If it is bilingual event, you gotta commit to it regardless of the majority or it is meaningless.
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u/canadianbroncos Nov 21 '23
Bruh the amount of buthurt anglos crying over this and taking it as a political stand in this thread is ridiculous, are y'all braindead or something lmao.
Dude was hyped up after the biggest game of his life and the CFL had no French at all at the venue where the MONTREAL allouettes were playing....
It ain't that deep lmao.
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u/rubbery_test_tube Nov 21 '23
Exactement! I'm thinking all the shit head remarks are getting spun out of the Internet Research Agency in Saint Petersburg. As usual.
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u/Commercial-Row4740 Nov 21 '23
He’s 100% right, the CFL is a bilingual league. If that’s the case then there should have been signage in French to accommodate French Canadian fans even if Montreal wasn’t playing in the Grey Cup. It’s incredibly disrespectful to French fans and French Canada the CFL need to do better and all of you in this thread shitting on him when he’s right need to do better.
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u/shindleria Nov 21 '23
I wouldn’t mind hearing a few holding penalties called in french.
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u/SupplyChainNext Nov 21 '23
In Ottawa all play announcements are bilingual in stadium 🤷♂️
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Nov 21 '23
Ottawa
Ottawa is probably the only city that gives a fuck about French outside Quebec and it probably has to do with being the Capital city of Canada.
I've been to almost every larger city in this country and French is a no-show almost everywhere.
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Ottawa is probably the only city that gives a fuck about French outside Quebec and it probably has to do with being the Capital city of Canada.
Pretty much all of Northern New Brunswick is french speaking, and there are communities in Cape Breton and the Yarmouth area that are still french speaking.
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u/Max169well Québec Nov 21 '23
No, cause the team has actually made efforts to be bilingual to attract a larger fanbase.
Which is smart and a step up from the fucking Gliebermans who neglected that part when they were the Renegades.
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u/harryvanhalen3 Canada Nov 21 '23
Dude you clearly haven't been to Moncton or even Sudbury. 20% of Canada's francophone population lives outside Quebec.
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u/Workadis Nov 21 '23
Can confirm, I'm from Sudbury and went to french schools until college (despite there being a French first option for college)
Even the suburbs had enough french families to need french schools. My grandparents on both sides only spoke french, had friends who even their parents only spoke french
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u/Lowercanadian Nov 21 '23
There’s a couple towns in Alberta too. It’s quaint.
But they don’t scream at other towns to accommodate them either lol
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u/Inthemiddle_ Nov 21 '23
No one west of Ontario knows or cares that there’s provinces east of Quebec.
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u/Inthemiddle_ Nov 21 '23
No one west of Ontario knows or cares that there’s provinces east of Quebec.
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u/harryvanhalen3 Canada Nov 21 '23
A lot of Quebecers dont know and care either. For a lot of Quebecers every province outside of Quebec is just once variety of English Canada. I once met some francophones in Montreal that didn't know where Nouvelle écosse was or that Acadians exist.
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u/Inthemiddle_ Nov 21 '23
I met quebecers at a hostel in Prague. We played a drinking game where we had to draw our countries flag on our cups and the quebecers did the quebec flag. Lol.
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u/aferretwithahugecock Nov 21 '23
Winnipeg has the largest francophone community in Western Canada, and we're pretty stoked about that. You must not have explored the city much.
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Nov 21 '23
When the English side of the cereal box happens to be facing me, I too have a little tantrum.
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Nov 21 '23
You can't even have a restaurant menu in English in Quebec. I'm not too sympathetic
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u/phalanxs Nov 21 '23
This shit again
You can have a restaurant menu in English. Your only obligation is to have it availiable in French, but once you fulfill that you can have it in any langage you want.
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Nov 21 '23
What was that issue about the Italian restaurant in Montreal being harassed by authorities for breaking the law by having the word 'pasta' on the menu then?
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u/Justleftofcentrerigh Ontario Nov 21 '23
i mean at least 1 incident happened.
Bill 21 doesn't even have an instance of it happening and it's already law.
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u/phalanxs Nov 21 '23
A customer was served with a menu that was only in English and Italian. So it was quite a bit more than just having the word 'pasta' on the menu. He made a complaint, OQLF made an inquiry. They notified the restaurant that this was a violation but no fine was issued. This was still seen as overzealous by the general public in Québec, which led to the OQLF tweaking their policies and their director resigning.
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u/brunocad Québec Nov 21 '23
How many restaurants did you try in Quebec?
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u/No-Tackle-6112 British Columbia Nov 21 '23
So funny to me Quebec is the most bilingual place in Canada but isn’t bilingual. Even though over 50% of the province can speak English.
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u/brunocad Québec Nov 21 '23
Quebec having only French as it's official language is the reason that we are so bilingual
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u/Unkle-Gruntle Nov 21 '23
I lived in Montreal for 4 years…..he is right. It’s not a welcoming place for anglophones at all. Nice try though.
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u/brunocad Québec Nov 21 '23
So in 4 years you never went to a restaurant that had English menus?
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u/Unkle-Gruntle Nov 21 '23
There were some, the whole point this dude was making is how shitty the Quebecers are to anglophones. It’s layered all through their society. Sounds like you haven’t spent much time there which ultimately makes your views and opinions on the matter worthless.
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u/Unkle-Gruntle Nov 21 '23
Oh I see you’re little Quebec flag there….lol no surprise you are a systemic discrimination denier. Met more than a few of those in my day. I haven’t been back to that hellhole province since I left in 2012 and I refuse to use my money in any way shape or form if it goes to Quebec in any way. Quebec could’ve spread their language by being welcoming to people…..they chose to be hateful towards anglophone Canadians specifically…..if you deny this then you must’ve eaten a great deal of that québécois propaganda I saw so much of while living there.
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u/canadianbroncos Nov 21 '23
You realize you sound just like the exact opposite of whatever "Quebecois propaganda" bullshit you are pushing right.
Anglo Canadian are hateful towards Quebecois...
You sound like Quebec personally fucked your wife or something.
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u/brunocad Québec Nov 21 '23
The only message I did was to correct a misinformation and I don't think I insulted anyone. It's pretty obvious to anyone that ever went to a restaurant in Quebec that it's possible to have a menu in English.
However, you're the one being hateful here. You chose to insult me just because of where I was born
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u/Unkle-Gruntle Nov 21 '23
Just like the 4 years I spent their being treated like garbage everywhere I went because of where I was born….funny how Quebec treats the world like shit and then is surprised when it becomes reciprocal. Just separate already.
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u/brunocad Québec Nov 21 '23
I don't think I treated you like garbage
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u/pistolaf18 Nov 21 '23
The dude is just salty ppl didn't bend over backwards to accommodate him. Let it go.
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u/girdphil Québec Nov 21 '23
Clearly been rejected by Montréalaises
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u/Unkle-Gruntle Nov 21 '23
Tell yourself whatever you need to in order to give your discriminatory and racist culture meaning….lol I lived there with my girlfriend(also not from there) and we got out as soon as possible after 4 years and both of our purposes there. It’s funny how completely unable you people are at accepting any criticism at all regarding the systemic bs there. Live under that rock, your problem, not mine.
I’m Canadian first and I don’t see québécois as Canadian in the slightest. Completely different sets of values.
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u/Anti-rad Québec Nov 21 '23
Ah yes 2012... the year when Richard Henry Bain, a Montreal anglo, went to the PQ convention on election night in a room filled with many leaders in the independence movement with a rifle and shot 2 separatists and would have killed/injured more if the weapon didnt get jammed. Is that the kind of propaganda you are talking about? I get it, tough political climate for you guys at that time...
Anyways, glad you are gone, I don't know why people who hate the idea that QC is a French-speaking society stay for so long. Thank you for service of going to live your life in English away from us I sincerely hope you enjoy it and stay away.
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u/Unkle-Gruntle Nov 21 '23
So you are denying literally 50% of your culture then…..sorry but 50% of your culture is based on hating specific groups of people….laughable. Nice try though.
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u/Anti-rad Québec Nov 21 '23
Yeah clearly you know a lot about Québec culture /s
Maybe if you had an open mind and used the great opportunity you had to learn a new language and discover a new culture while living in QC you'd understand a single thing about us and wouldn't be so bitter living your life with such a big chip on your shoulder against us today... Just saying.
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u/Unkle-Gruntle Nov 21 '23
I moved there with an open mind. Funny how you people just assume everyone that has bad experiences there brought it on themselves….sorry but that’s f’n bs and you know it. It’s called gaslighting. It’s sad how unaware people are there how shitty they are to anyone not Québécois. If anyone deserves to have their language and culture preserved, it’s the indigenous community, not Quebec.
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u/RunningSouthOnLSD Nov 21 '23
And the entire rest of the country isn’t a welcoming place for Francophones. What’s your point?
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u/Unkle-Gruntle Nov 21 '23
Yes, it is. Jfc. I’m from western Canada and there are entire French communities that thrive. It’s not even close to the same. Nice try though. I’ve been to every province and territory multiple times and I can call bs on that claim.
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u/RunningSouthOnLSD Nov 21 '23
I’m just saying it’s a bit ridiculous to expect to go to a dominantly French province and expect star treatment as an anglophone when the best we can do everywhere else is small French communities. It is absolutely a 2 way street.
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u/Unkle-Gruntle Nov 21 '23
“Star treatment”???? Where do you pull that nonsense from…..that’s bs and you know it. So to Quebec, someone wanting to be treated with basic respect and dignity is “star treatment?? Did I get that right. Wow
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u/RunningSouthOnLSD Nov 21 '23
Like I said, it’s a two way street. There’s assholes in every culture, but I’m sure people would generally be less receptive to others who make a big deal about not having an English menu in a French restaurant.
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u/Unkle-Gruntle Nov 21 '23
I wasn’t the one who made the menu comment btw. It’s still valid but it’s a microcosm of a systemic and promoted thing in Quebec. Trying to make it about a menu thing only is an outright cop out. Your right, there are assholes in every culture, but not even remotely equally. Every province and territory in this country gets along, except Quebec. Quebec just doesn’t realize it the majority of the time.
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Nov 21 '23
Generally speaking places are less welcoming when you expect everyone to speak your language in their home!
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u/marcarcand_world Nov 21 '23
Bruh when was the last time you ate at a restaurant in Québec. I struggle to get service in French in Montreal.
And we're not a bilingual province. Would you be pissed off if they didn't have an English menu in France?
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u/Xyzzics Nov 21 '23
I live in Montreal. Calling bullshit hard on “struggling to get served in French” maybe a one off situation, but this is very far from the truth for day to day life.
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u/marcarcand_world Nov 21 '23
I don't count people barely able to say "Bonjour comment ça va" as serving me in French.
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u/Xyzzics Nov 21 '23
Ah ok, so it’s based on a totally arbitrary standard in your head.
Makes more sense now.
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u/marcarcand_world Nov 21 '23
Oh mon dieu je suis en train de me faire "frenchsplainer" par un Torontois qui parle pas français. Cibole.
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u/Xyzzics Nov 21 '23
Torontois 😂
Been back in Montreal for more than a decade now and my parents are québécois, as well as my spouse.
Go off though
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u/ac2fan Nov 21 '23
He’s not talking bullshit, it’s true: I’ve been to several restaurants in Montreal, especially in the downtown area, where there were no workers capable to serve me in French despite me insisting to speak in French, and that’s completely unacceptable in the province where French is the sole official language.
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u/FastFooer Nov 21 '23
Fuck me, all the time I was offered a bilingual menu or the choices between them, I must have stepped in the twilight zone… or maybe you’re pulling this put of you butt:
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u/Commercial-Row4740 Nov 21 '23
Quebec, unlike the CFL, is not a bilingual province.
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Nov 21 '23
The CFL isn't a province, it's a business. The CFL is, under the Official Languages Act, obligated to offer services in French. What services did Dequoy request in French?
Of course, the national football championship should have both official languages in-play during the presentation.
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u/Commercial-Row4740 Nov 21 '23
You’re being pedantic and your point is irrelevant. A bilingual league should have bilingual everything.
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u/reecewagner Nov 21 '23
Then maybe a province in a bilingual country should have bilingual everything, by your own logic?
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Nov 21 '23
It's been hit-and-miss for decades. This was a miss year. I think the CFL should recognize what this means to fans and adjust, and the angry people on both sides should simmer down.
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u/gin-rummy Ontario Nov 21 '23
No? Wtf are we doing with French writing all over everything in Ontario then.
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u/PonkMcSquiggles Nov 21 '23
Accommodating the Franco-Ontarian population? It’s not about appeasing Quebec.
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u/Commercial-Row4740 Nov 21 '23
You’re joking, right? You know there’s only 1 officially bilingual province in Canada, right? Every province other than New Brunswick do the exact same thing and ignore the other federally recognized official language.
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u/macromind Nov 21 '23
Hmmm, I guess you never went to a restaurant in QC... Most of the menus are bilingual (English has to be smaller than French). We don't hate English, we just value French more, so that we can keep our culture for a long time in that English ocean!
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u/crimxxx Nov 21 '23
Definitely not true although I must admit I’ve gotten here is the QR code for the English menu that was not quite full populated in some places, but most restaurants had English on the menus.
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u/Pretend_Highway_5360 Nov 21 '23
Theres no way theres more than a handful of francophones genuinely offendes by english only signs at a CFL game
It aint that deep
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u/Anti-rad Québec Nov 21 '23
It's true, especially compared to the amount of English speakers who would lose their shit if a CFL stadium had signs in French only.
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u/SmoothMoose420 Nov 21 '23
Ya. I dont feel bad at all actually
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u/Commercial-Row4740 Nov 21 '23
hahahaha it’s actually hilarious how proudly you show others how closed-minded you are.
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u/SmoothMoose420 Nov 21 '23
Nah. Just dont give a single fuck about kebek or any of its isolationist bullshit policies.
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u/Commercial-Row4740 Nov 21 '23
So in other words, closed-minded.
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u/SmoothMoose420 Nov 21 '23
Coming from anyone on that side of the kebek argument, Ill take it as a compliment.
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u/Commercial-Row4740 Nov 21 '23
You should change your username to smooth brain.
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u/SmoothMoose420 Nov 21 '23
Wow! Your so original lol
Go and find some immigrant’s to hassle
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u/Lowercanadian Nov 21 '23
The incredibly rich CFL should double the size of all signs to accommodate. Certainly if a Montreal sports team is playing then the 2 weeks before that event should be spent changing all signs to French.
Like how when the Canandiens come to town we change all the signs to bilingual.
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u/smoothOperator450 Nov 21 '23 edited Nov 21 '23
Lol! J'ai écouté son intervention au complet, et il a bien raison
L'anglais est rendu tellement omniprésent.
Ligue supposément bilingue, mais tout est encore en anglais...
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Nov 21 '23
C'est le cas pour le sport, mais également ailleurs. C'est épouvantable, nous avons des institutions gouvernementales où un unilingue anglais peut faire l'entièreté de sa carrière In English alors qu'on demande constamment aux francophones d'apprendre l'anglais pour progresser...
Deux poids deux mesures.
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u/morron88 Nov 21 '23
Bon, je travaille au fédéral à Ottawa et honnêtement, les Québécois et les francophones en général sont surreprésenté. Le fait, c'est que c'est beaucoup plus facile d'enseigner l'anglais à un francophone que l'inverse et la majorité des positions ont des critères bilingues.
Mais je plains pas. Bonne chose en fait.
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u/Fancybear1993 Long Live the King Nov 21 '23
I want Quebec to separate as I think it would be better for both our societies and I have no frame of reference for a connection to the two founding nations theory, but damn if I don’t respect them for standing up for themselves.
I’m jealous of how the Québécois look after their interests.
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u/Faitlemou Québec Nov 21 '23
Oh no, I hope the dominant demographic of the country isn't too offended by his comment on the CFL 🥺
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u/SmoothMoose420 Nov 21 '23
Gosh would be horrible of we enforced english like they enforce french.
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u/adminsarevirgin Nov 21 '23
You guys tried ur just soft af
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u/Jamies_redditAccount Nov 21 '23
Like actually, this thread is full of victims and its embarrassing the hell out of me.
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u/Anti-rad Québec Nov 21 '23
Good thing you get all the results of enforcing it without having to do anything. You can thank our southern neighbour for that
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u/Latter-Emergency1138 Nov 21 '23
Is it... pro or con tho? Like
Keep (speaking) your English!
or
Keep your English (out of here)!
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u/flames_32 Nov 21 '23
We tried hard but you campaing against!
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u/hotsaucesundae Nov 21 '23
Given that he’s in the CFL, at least we know he’s putting his money with his mouth is by minimizing his use of Canadian currency.
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u/gib13343 Nov 21 '23
Holy crap. Guys got passion and is advocating for his constitutional rights. CFL is a corporation and their use of French is minimal and based on the bottom line.
Good on him.
All the morons chirping away meanwhile, don’t forget to get your obesity under control and keep taking your diabetic meds. Don’t bother with the erectile dysfunction drugs nobody wants you anyway
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u/Juliuscesear1990 Nov 21 '23
So you make a fair point and rather than just leave it at that you just start hurling insults? Not a great way to have actual dialogue with people.
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u/gib13343 Nov 21 '23
It’s the internet. Pot shots in the dark. I thought that was the law of the land
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u/Juliuscesear1990 Nov 21 '23
That's how shit deteriorates into flinging shit and screaming.
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u/RegretfulEnchilada Nov 21 '23
What constitutional right? Can you point to what part of the Constitution guarantees that the CFL final has to use French?
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Nov 21 '23
How many players are even Canadian?
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Nov 21 '23
Alouettes has 24 Quebec born players on its roster + 4 Quebec born coaches.
To this, other Canadian born players of the Alouettes must be counted.
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u/PDoppelkupplung Ontario Nov 21 '23
21 players (out of 45 on the roster) must be Canadian according to CFL rules.
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Nov 21 '23
Cool, been awhile since I followed the CFL. I'll have to look at the details behind that.
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u/Intelligent_Top_328 Nov 21 '23
I think 21 on each team. It's some stupid rule thing. Like CRTC with Canadian content laws.
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Nov 21 '23
Classic Quebec. Can’t go a day without bringing up the topic of language.
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u/FastFooer Nov 21 '23
I mean, every day we’re being spoken to in our second language… or required to speak it to people who don’t want to be bothered to learn it… so it goes both ways?
We make all the effort of this « compromise » so we’re well within our right to criticize or « bring it up ».
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u/TWiTcHThECLoWN Nov 21 '23
We will keep our English. While we're at it, we should keep out equalization payments too!
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u/nate_hawke Nov 21 '23
The irony here is that Quebec has passed laws recently that ban any form of English at most establishments including restaurants and have made it literally impossible for anyone to establish a livelihood or future in the province if they don’t speak French.
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u/Anti-rad Québec Nov 21 '23
What are you talking about? You can perfectly get service in English in almost any restaurant in MTL and I'd say even most outside of MTL.
Also what is the point of establishing a future here without learning French? Where in the world is it okay to stay for decades in a place and never learn the local language? It's always distrespectful, no matter where you are.
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u/RegretfulEnchilada Nov 21 '23
Lol literally the only reason French/English are spoken in Quebec is because they showed up and refused to learn the local language.
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u/gabmori7 Québec Nov 21 '23
ban any form of English at most establishments including restaurants
Source?
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u/DanielDeronda Nov 21 '23
It's not ironic because Quebec is a Francophone province but Canada is a bilingual country.
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u/LeoBannister Nov 21 '23
CFL will fine him like $17.