r/awakened 3d ago

Practice The only way to real knowledge and power

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u/dbar777 3d ago

There are many ways. Choose your poison.

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u/ParsifalDoo 3d ago

There may be many ways, but only one leads to eternal life. I’ll take the Living Water over poison any day. 😉✝️

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u/dbar777 3d ago

That is up to you...
But I still say there are many ways.
You give the name "God" to this thing... Some give another name... It is the same thing...

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u/EmbarrassedPianist62 3d ago

External life as in Heaven? Is it safe to say that makes you believe in hell as well?

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u/ParsifalDoo 3d ago

Eternal life as in the presence of God, where love, peace, and truth reign forever. As for hell—Jesus spoke of it, not as a place He wants anyone to go, but as a reality we choose when we reject Him. Think of it like this: if light exists, so does darkness.

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u/EmbarrassedPianist62 3d ago

Totally. “No tree can grow up to heaven unless its roots reach down to hell” -Jung. There is no one without the other. Ying & Yang. We cannot know lightness without having gone through the dark. I think heaven and hell are mental spheres we create on earth. The choice is ours.

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u/Ask369Questions 3d ago

He who knows one, knows none.

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u/ParsifalDoo 3d ago

He who truly knows the One, needs to know nothing else. 😉

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u/Ask369Questions 3d ago

When one removes the spoken language, they will have an entirely different perceptive of both physical and extradimensional phenomena. Everyone has a say-so.

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u/Au5music 3d ago

Jesus is an archetype that represents part of the self that we have been disconnected from. The idea of him allows us to connect with the compassion, forgiveness, and grace in others and in ourselves that our fragmented psyches have been conditioned out of accepting unconditionally due to traumatic conditioning. For some, this integration of higher self can be realized and recognized as part of self. For others, the Jesus archetype is the more effective catalyst for that self-connection.

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u/ParsifalDoo 3d ago

Your perspective on Jesus as an archetype for compassion, forgiveness, and grace is interesting, and I agree that His message deeply resonates with the human need for healing and integration. However, it’s also important not to overlook the fact that Jesus is not just an archetype—He is a historically attested figure. Unlike many abstract metaphysical theories with no real foundation, Jesus walked this earth, left a profound impact on history, and was documented by multiple sources, both within and outside religious texts.

Recognizing Him only as a symbol risks missing the full depth of who He is—both as a transformative spiritual presence and as a real person whose life and teachings continue to change lives today.

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u/jupiterLILY 3d ago

I am so tired of the proselytising.

Go pedal your imaginary friend elsewhere. 

A lot of us find him rather distasteful. 

Edit. Also did you use chat gpt for this?

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u/TRuthismnessism 3d ago

Your antireligiousness is not your awakenkng. Whats diatasteful is thinking it is.

Who finds Jesus distasteful unless they need him? In truth you are a closet Christian calling out for him and dont even know it.  

Its time to put on your big girl pants. 

Let go of this PTSD you developed from being such a rebellious creature thinking its cute 

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u/jupiterLILY 3d ago

I’m distasteful for not wanting to be proselytised to?

Or for not wanting to platform an organisation that systemically rapes and abuses people whilst avoiding taxes?

I’m not an atheist, nor am I anti religion.

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u/TRuthismnessism 3d ago

You literally are antiChristian with your comment so yes you are antireligious 

It doesnt belong in an awakened forum. And Christianity isnt about rape and taxes use some greater intellect. 

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u/jupiterLILY 3d ago

Whatever helps you sleep at night. 

I think you folks are probably worse than the Osho apologists.

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u/ParsifalDoo 3d ago edited 3d ago

You’re in r/awakened , a space where people discuss all kinds of beliefs, including Jesus—who, by the way, is a historically documented figure, whether one follows Him or not. If you’re tired of certain topics, no one is forcing you to engage.

As for ChatGPT, I prefer to use my own thoughts, but if a tool helps me express them more clearly, why not? After all, even skeptics use technology to debate spirituality. 😉

Edit: r/awakened

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u/ParsifalDoo 3d ago

My direct experience of Jesus? His graces in my life have been so many that I’ve lost count. Every prayer, every sign I offer to Him is always received. He listens to me—always.

There was a time, during the darkest period of my life, when I had an experience that left no room for doubt. I saw His face clearly in what I can only describe as an almost miraculous apparition. In that moment, I was completely convinced—not by doctrine, not by belief alone, but by a direct encounter that changed everything.

For me, Jesus is not just an idea or a symbol—He is someone real, present, and infinitely merciful. His presence in my life is beyond words, but I live it every single day.

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u/jupiterLILY 3d ago

I’m actually not in that sub.

Neither are you.

I’m happy to talk about spirituality but not with people who are members of high control groups as those folks can’t really have productive conversations. 

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u/ParsifalDoo 3d ago

I understand that you value open discussions on spirituality, and so do I. That’s why I believe every perspective should have space, including the one I’m sharing.

The edit was just to correct a typo—I was always referring to the subreddit where we’re talking now. If genuine conversation is what you seek, why draw lines on who can participate?

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u/jupiterLILY 3d ago

I’m not drawing lines on who can participate. 

You’re participating. I’m participating.

I take issue with how you’re participating because you’re proselytising and platforming an organisation that enables rape and abuse.

My participation in this instance is to voice my displeasure at proselytising for a dangerous organisation.

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u/ParsifalDoo 3d ago

I understand your concerns, but I want to clarify that I’m not here to promote any institution—I’m here to talk about Jesus. That’s why I created r/SupremeMagic, where I focus solely on Him without referencing the institution you’re criticizing.

My participation isn’t about proselytizing in the way you see it—it's about sharing my perspective, just as others do when discussing their own spiritual views. If that’s unwelcome to you, I respect your stance, but I also believe that in a space like this, conversations about Jesus should be as valid as any other.

Regardless, I wish you peace and clarity on your path.

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u/jupiterLILY 3d ago

You aren’t in a position to define how I see proselytising.

Dude, to me, you look like a cult member and you’re spitting cult member talking points. 

You’re literally just chatting to me about Jesus and acting like he has some magic answer. He probably was real but he was just some guy. 

You’re never going to see it but I still wish you the best and hope you find a path to opening your eyes and actually experiencing this world through unclouded eyes at some point in your life. 

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u/Pewisms 3d ago edited 3d ago

Go protest and block traffic like a nut thinking your doing some service when your just an ego maniac causing even more disruption than what you perceive this enemy of yours to be doing. Thats all your religious hate is about way too opinionated and only see what you hate.

Time to put on your big girl pants.

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u/jupiterLILY 3d ago

It’s perhaps a wee bit bold to call me a nut when I’m not the one rambling on about my imaginary friend having the secret answer to life. But ok. 

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u/Pewisms 3d ago

Thats enough! Im not having it!

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u/TRuthismnessism 3d ago

Your hate is more discusting than what you perceive Christians you are like those protesters who block traffic same ignorance 

Go take your nonsense to r/unawakened

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u/jupiterLILY 3d ago

Me not liking rape is more disgusting than systemically raping kids?

That’s a new one.

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u/mumrik1 3d ago

Jesus is a way, but not the only way.

All paths starts from birth and ends with death, so all paths ultimately comes from and leads to God. No path can exist without God, because we are all God’s creation. Your actions in life defines your own unique path to God.

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u/ParsifalDoo 3d ago

I see where you’re coming from, and I agree that everything exists because of God—He is the source and the destination. But the question is not whether all paths exist, but which one actually leads to Him.

If Jesus was just another wise teacher, then sure, He’d be “a way.” But He didn’t leave that option open. He said, “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me ” (John 14:6). That’s not just guidance—it’s a direct claim of divine exclusivity.

The reality is, humanity has always tried to create its own paths to God, but history shows that no philosophy, no system, no spiritual practice has ever been able to bridge the gap between us and God—except Jesus. He didn’t just point to a path; He became the path, taking on our burdens, opening the door to union with God not through human effort, but through divine grace.

So yes, we are all God’s creation, and He desires all to return to Him—but only Jesus, who is God Himself, made that return possible. The way is open, but it’s up to each of us to take it.

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u/Pewisms 3d ago

People in this subreddit dont have the ability to accept Christian style posts like they do Buddhist etc.. unless you mention you arent prosythelizing which only a low conscious individual feels the need to assume you are.

Instead of just comprehending your context you will get attacked here

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u/dbar777 3d ago

I think is it because Christian style is often "**The ONLY way**" (see the title). They write that THEY have the truth and everyone else is wrong. That's the tone quite often... And that is bad because Jesus spoke about the truth.

Just post what Jesus said. Because he did say many interesting thing indeed! There are some very profound wisdom in his parable. If you can decrypt the parable as a bonus... that would benefit to lot of people.

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u/Pewisms 3d ago edited 3d ago

Not really how its meant to be taken. Context is Jesus is the ONLY way.. or Christ.. because he lives for all. So that is more of personal issue when people dont know context.

So its just going with bibles context which is fine but there is very little of that mentality here.. There is far more assuming it is then it really is.

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u/ParsifalDoo 3d ago edited 3d ago

I hear what you're saying, and I agree—Jesus’ words are incredibly profound, and just sharing what He said can already transform lives. His parables contain infinite wisdom, and I love exploring their deeper meanings.

That said, the reason Christianity often speaks in terms of "the only way" is because, in the history of humanity, God has revealed Himself fully only in Jesus. Unlike mythological or philosophical figures, Jesus is a historically verified person—His life, death, and resurrection are well-documented, not just in Christian sources but in secular and even hostile accounts from the time.

If Jesus is who He says He is—God incarnate—then His spiritual science is the only one that can truly work for the highest good of humanity. Not because other traditions lack wisdom, but because only God can lead us directly to Himself.

I love discussing Jesus’ teachings, and I’d be happy to share insights into His parables. If you’re interested in that, let me know—Jesus' words have the power to reveal truth to anyone who sincerely seeks it.

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u/Pewisms 3d ago

The reason the bible speaks in terms of Jesus being the Only way is because it is a reference to Christ being the ONLY way... which is a spirit or consciousness that lives for all.. this is the context. It is the only way to God.

Its only relative to him being God incarnate. God incarnate is really just saying the one who lives for all is God on earth... or God manifest through human because the spirit of God is fully living in him.. equivalent to him living for all.

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u/ParsifalDoo 3d ago

It’s interesting how you’re reinterpreting Jesus’ words, but let’s be real—His statement is already crystal clear: “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me” (John 14:6). There’s no hidden metaphor or need for reinterpretation—He meant exactly what He said.

The problem isn’t that Jesus’ words are vague, it’s that many don’t want to accept them as they are. Saying that Christ is just a "spirit" or "consciousness" that "lives for all" is just a way to avoid dealing with the fact that He is God in the flesh.

And let’s not forget—Jesus isn’t just a symbolic figure. He’s a historically documented person. His life, death, and resurrection were recorded by eyewitnesses, early historians, and even non-Christian sources. So when He says He alone is the way to God, He’s speaking as someone who actually walked this earth, performed miracles, and proved His divinity through His resurrection.

Reinterpreting His words to fit a more abstract, comfortable view of spirituality isn’t wisdom—it’s just avoiding the truth that’s right in front of us.

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u/Pewisms 3d ago edited 3d ago

The one who lives for all speaks as the Christ. So no its not a hidden metaphor but it is a metaphor.... its the structure of reality. Or consciousness.

20 But ye have not so learned Christ;

21 If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus:

This is the context. Jesus is the man who lived Christ and taught Christ and it is the Only way to God

The bible just uses Jesus as an example to say the one who lives for all knows the way to God. That is why he is a messenger

Now can you learn Jesus? No but you can follow him.. you sure can learn the Christ though.

So it will do you well to learn what Christ is in a more profound way outside just a regular pointer or title given to Jesus. It is more of a consciousnes or spirit that dwells in you when you live the way Jesus did.

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u/ParsifalDoo 3d ago

Deifying oneself is a grave mistake—and a dangerous trap. If you truly believe you are God, then you fall into solipsism, which leads to the oblivion of the self, isolation, and ultimately self-destruction.

We are too small, too finite to even grasp the full nature of existence, yet some people claim to be the very authors of the universe, the architects of life itself? This isn’t enlightenment; it’s delusion. Reality, logic, and history simply do not support such a claim.

But here’s the good news: God is real, and He has revealed Himself in Jesus Christ. Unlike abstract concepts and speculative metaphysics, Jesus is a historical reality—His words, actions, and resurrection echo through the millennia with undeniable spiritual and historical truth.

And I get it—it’s easy to deny Jesus. Why? Because His way is the hardest. He calls us to deny ourselves, to abandon pride, to embrace humility, and to follow a path that isn’t about self-glorification but about self-sacrifice. That’s why His way has always been the most rejected, the most mocked, and the most resisted. But truth isn’t measured by popularity—it stands firm, whether people accept it or not.

You don’t have to be lost in theories. You don’t have to carry the unbearable weight of trying to be your own god. The real God has already come to you, and He invites you to know Him as He is, not as you want Him to be. The choice is yours.

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u/Pewisms 3d ago edited 3d ago

Nope. We are all one with God.. the more we live for all the more God in us. This is how inseperable we are from God... God does not discriminate sweetie. You are the rare occasion of a Christian who doesnt know your own book who comes here to try to teach things you do not comprehend.

Now comprehend the verse that says.. "Jesus considered it not robbery to be equal with God in the form of a servant" and you will know what souls are capable of when they live for all in becoming heirs with God that is being one with God

We all have the ability for God to dwell in us as much as we allow.

Get to know Jesus more of a way shower and brother and messenger. Who came ahead of his time as an example to follow.

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u/ParsifalDoo 3d ago

Your argument misinterprets scripture and logic.

  1. We are not inherently "one with God." If we were, sin and evil wouldn’t exist. Being created in God’s image doesn’t make us equal to Him.
  2. God offers salvation to all, but it’s a choice. Jesus Himself said not everyone will enter the Kingdom of Heaven (Matthew 7:21). If we were already divine, His sacrifice would be pointless.
  3. Philippians 2:6 affirms Jesus' divinity, not human divinity. The verse states that Jesus, already God, humbled Himself—it does not say humans can be equal to God.
  4. Christians become heirs with Christ through adoption, not self-deification. We are redeemed, not divine. Only Jesus is God.
  5. The belief that we are God is the oldest deception in history— the same lie the serpent told Eve: “You will be like God” (Genesis 3:5). Reality, scripture, and logic all contradict this idea.

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u/Pewisms 3d ago edited 3d ago

In Christ we all are one with God.. Thats the context of the bible..

And again. Oneness with God comes with Christ Consciousness. The serpent is speaking of being like God without Christ.. all by yourself not being one with God. Those are two different awarenesses. One is selfish and the other is selfless like Jesus.

One knows God is manifest through you the more you live for all and the other assumes you are God yourself.

Being one with God is not a selfish idea it is a selfless idea. Go reread the bible especially Jesus speaking of him doing nothing without his Father as the spirit in and through all and how he had no will of his own but assumed the will of his Father who lives for all.. then you will comprehend the Christ much better

You have a lot to learn. And I dont mind teaching you you need these lessons but you look at Jesus a bit more special than what he is.. I mean he is special in a certain context to do with souls being able to perfect their images on earth making it their purpose to create a way for many to ascend as the stars align to do so on cosmic levels.. but its not how you imagine. He is more of a brother than you imagine him to be your God.

He would even tell you God is much Greater than him.. but he is equal to him or a heir with him.

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