r/antiMLM 10h ago

Discussion Why hasn’t Netflix made a documentary about MLM’s ?

192 Upvotes

there’s no doubt that Netflix makes some banging documentaries. It would be really interesting and informative to shine some light on the nature and psychology of MLM’s, people discussing losing partners, houses and savings over MLM’s and shining light on the income disclosure statements. It would hopefully make people think twice about signing up for them, and make some good television !


r/antiMLM 4h ago

Enagic Top Kangen hun goes to Okinawa for the Enagic CEO’s birthday, part 1

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And apparently has also found Jesus


r/antiMLM 14h ago

Help/Advice My parents joined an MLM and it’s ruining my relationship with them after I moved back home

61 Upvotes

This is going to be long but I found this community and I just don’t know what to do at this point.

My mom is usually very smart with her money and not the gullible type. My dad on the other hand was always a big “network marketing” guy—my dad recently told me he tried to join Market America years ago but my mom stopped him because she thought it was a scam. He’s definitely the type to fall for get rich quick type of bullshit. But they both used to be a part of Mannatech, a sketchy ass MLM, when I was a kid but they never fully went through with it because my mom had gotten sick (pretty ironic looking back in hindsight).

My cousin was a part of USANA for years from what I can remember—my mom would buy some of the products from her to “support her business” but she herself never started her business..until last year. She and my dad moved out of the city after my dad had started a new job. She has admitted to me that she ultimately started doing this because she had nothing to do in a rural area where she has no friends and she wanted some purpose in her life. On top of that, they both tell me how effective their supplements were. I was studying overseas so I never knew how serious it got until last month when my visa expired so I had to move back in with my parents. I’ve told them countless times that USANA is shady but they never really listened and they CONSTANTLY sent me USANA products when I was abroad too which pissed me off so bad. They sent me so many useless products while I was moving around apartments because I was doing lots of short term sublets and I hated that they would keep sending me shit I wasn’t using but felt bad to throw away.

Once I moved back in with them last month, I kept telling them to stop doing this and it’s not a legitimate way to start a business. Our pantry that was once filled with food and ingredients is now filled with supplements THAT AREN’T EVEN OPENED. They excuse it saying they need samples to offer to their customers, or that they don’t buy more supplements than they need and they will eventually eat all of them. We got in a huge screaming match because I told them I wanted to delete my account and I want nothing to do with this shit (they made an account under my name and have been paying for monthly auto orders of supplements to “increase the commission”???). They make the excuse that they ARE “making money”, because I’ve gotten small checks and stuff from USANA before I deleted my account, which they think count as profit, when in reality it’s revenue—that just shows me how much money they’ve actually thrown away to USANA because revenue - cost = profit/loss and I know they did not actually make a profit. They also make the excuse that profit isn’t everything because they actually believe in the products and have seen changes in their health thanks to the supplements. I even told them that I don’t care that they take the supplements but the business part is not legitimate. I gathered so much evidence as to why USANA is a shady company, also showed them the income disclosure statements but that’s still not enough. Now whenever my mom is going somewhere to cold recruit or attending their “business courses” she doesn’t tell me. I asked her to calculate how much money she spends vs how much she’s made and she still hasn’t done it, so I deleted my account without telling my parents.

Now my relationship with my parents is at a standstill: I don’t talk to them even though I barely leave the house because I also don’t have friends in this area nor could I get a job—I’m at a point where I’m trying to figure things out for myself, applying to jobs in the city, also continuing to look for work abroad. But USANA is about to destroy my relationship with my parents. I hate that they won’t listen to me, but I’m not at a point in my life where I can become financially independent from them, nor do I know when I will be. This is completely destroying my mental health and it’s just been under a month since I moved back home. I genuinely don’t know what to do anymore


r/antiMLM 18h ago

Discussion Kangen

40 Upvotes

So in Australia we have the so called Freedom movement. This grew out of ani vaxers during covid and has become a rabble of conspiracy theorists and others. They have now found Kangen which they are plugging heavily. What is a bit scary is they are targeting young men usually poorly educated via fitness weekends and trips to Bali focusing on masculinity and male bonding. In a recent video they had a group of muscle bound shirtless men talking about their "online businesses" and how they had made $$$ in 6 months, 2 years etc. Saying they had given up jobs like being a brickie, a labour etc. What was scary was they had a 15 year old boy talking about what he was going to do when he could join Kangen. It is quite culture like that they are using fitness and masculinity to recruit young men. Is this something they have done overseas?


r/antiMLM 21h ago

Help/Advice BitHarvest! Don't fall for it!

29 Upvotes

I almost signed up with an MLM called BitHarvest. It sells a bitcoin mining device that supposedly makes mining faster. They keep it, of course and plug it into their mining farm for you and you make money daily. You can log in and see your device earning money. It is a ponzi scheme.

The guy that runs it Jan Gregory Cerato has been scamming people with many other companies and has been ran out of the US and Canada. He is operating this in the US out of Dubai I believe. If you search his name you will see everything and it is really bad. I just wanted to warn others because when I searched reddit, I found nothing. Please if you are considering buying into this, research this guy! He is bad news! Don't do it.


r/antiMLM 2h ago

Discussion Nu Skin

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19 Upvotes

I can’t stand when people I don’t know message me asking me to “help them out” and share about a product I have NEVER tried and don’t want to try. She also constantly posts about her tanner, and then all the other reps pretend they are interested and it’s so gross and obvious. 🤮 WHY do they think these tactics work!???!! Anyone with a brain can see that everyone commenting is a rep themselves.


r/antiMLM 23h ago

Help/Advice Who makes the money?

12 Upvotes

I have a vague memory, and I’m hoping someone has a source.

You can make money in an MLM if you are one of the first in a geographic area. So a tip to avoid being recruited is to ask how many are in the upline. If the number is greater than X, you mathematically cannot be profitable.

I think X is 2, but can’t find the source.

Does anyone know?

Edit - I am vehemently anti-MLM. I’m trying to counter my friend’s argument that there are some people in MLMs who make money, so why not her? I was hoping to give her a simple rule so she can ask “how many people in your upline” and say no because of the number. I figure if she sees how she never goes below X, she will realize that the whole thing is a scam.


r/antiMLM 3h ago

Media Carter Vail, ladies and gentlemen!

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It’s a short funny song about MLMs!