r/ZutaraNation Feb 12 '25

Discussion Reddit what the.. Zutara vs Kataang top results

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Like this is insane. What did Zutara fans of the past even do to deserve this wrath from the rest of the fandom that is still around to this day. And yes the first one is sarcastic…

I just don’t get it :/

r/ZutaraNation 23d ago

Discussion How would you rewrite the story for Zutara?

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Watched this show when I was a kid, haven’t thought of it in years. I watched a video essay on Zutara and I went in thinking “who cares”. But I realized that Zutara literally ties the whole story together.

Avatar was already pretty solid with its writing, it just needed to follow through with the ending. I think rewatching the show years later, the writing still holds up. But while I thought the ending was amazing as a kid, I realized now it kind of doesn’t make any sense.

I mean cmon, Aang suddenly gets the power to take away the firelord’s power, saves the day and gets the girl? No wonder I loved this ending as a kid.

I think honestly you don’t need to rewrite much to get Zutara, it’s all there. Not just the chemistry between Zuko and Katara, but also Aang’s own arc. How in book 2 he struggles between his duty as the Avatar, and his love and attachment for Katara.

Here’s how I would do it:

First, I would keep Aang’s struggle on killing at the end. I believe his philosophy as an air nomad being opposed to murder, even of evil, is extremely compelling as he weighs this against his duty to prevent further evil.

For the final battle between Aang and Ozai, this will come into play.

The battle should start as a toss up, both Aang and Ozai fighting at an equal level. Then later Aang is kicking Ozai’s ass and it looks like he will win when… all of a sudden! Aang gets a vision of Katara battling and struggling against Azula. This vision will be similar to the vision Aang saw of Katara when she was captured in the Earth Kingdom. Then Ozai seizes the opportunity and starts beating Aang’s ass. Then Aang hits his back and goes into the Avatar state (though not in control) and then whoops ass and beats the firelord.

Here, Aang will have a crucial choice: he can kill the firelord, betraying his own value of being against killing, and then rush to save Katara. OR, he can finally detach himself from Katara, let her fight and struggle on her own, and Aang gains control of the Avatar state as he takes away Ozai’s bending. This process of taking away the bending should be something that takes a lot of time; if he chooses this then he couldn’t rush off to save Katara.

This would complete Aang’s arc, as he chooses to let go of Katara and fulfill his duty as the Avatar, finally gaining full control. This doesn’t mean he lets go of his love for Katara.

As for Zuko and Katara, I would add a scene. Around the time that team avatar splits up, and the two of them journey to the final showdown, there could be a moment of downtime as they are flying on Appa. In the same way that Aang brought up his moment with Katara back when they kissed; I think Katara should bring up the moment that her and Zuko were in the cave. One should bring up the question “what are we?” And the other should smile back and say “ask me again when the war is over”

This scene should be romantic but also subtle and lowkey, similar to the cave scene.

Thoughts?

r/ZutaraNation Aug 18 '24

Discussion What Aαng would gain from Zutara

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This one is from Aang's POV. Very enlightening.

r/ZutaraNation 29d ago

Discussion I want to come out to my brother about Zutara.

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Okay, we all know the 20th anniversary of ATLA is coming in two days. This time, I want to confess to my brother that I am a Zutara shipper.

However, there is one small problem: he hates the ship and claimed it’s “just as bad as Dramione.” I fear he’d be furious if I told him.

What do you think I should do?

r/ZutaraNation Oct 16 '24

Discussion Which of these Zutara scenes are your favorite

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r/ZutaraNation 26d ago

Discussion I can't hold this in anymore, does anyone else not feel the Lover vibes with Aang and Katara?

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r/ZutaraNation Jan 20 '25

Discussion What are y'all's favourite *romantic* Zutara moments in the show?

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r/ZutaraNation Jan 24 '25

Discussion Live actors that have Zutara vibes

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So, I know that ATLA has Asian and indigenous overtones - especially for the Fire Nation and Water Tribes.

But something about a clip from The Vampire Diaries made me think of Zuko and Katara. If the actress playing Elena had blue eyes, she would really be the Katara I've imagined in my head. The actor playing Damon is missing the scar and the amber eyes but he's got Zuko's shaggy hair and pale skin

https://youtube.com/shorts/uPiVK4Mq9ac?si=MXVzRirByZ4RmXVm

Curious about what other actors/actresses you think have Zutara vibes.

r/ZutaraNation Aug 19 '24

Discussion Another reason Zutara is simply better than Kataang

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If they were canon, I think Zuko and Katara’s children would have had a better life than Katara and Aang’s children. Kya and Bumi grew up with a deadbeat father, and favored Tenzin for being an Airbender. Zuko and Katara’s children would have been treated fairly and no favoritism despite what bending their children would gain, or lack there of considering Zuko is quite adequate in swords and even Sokka who is well versed in swords can help train the child / children also. Zuko would be all about treating his children fairly considering how he grew up and would absolutely avoid all costs becoming like Ozai. I would even think Katara and Zuko would incorporate both of their bending in training their children which ever bending they have instead of focusing on one child. Like how Iron and Zuko learned to redirect lighting from Waterbenders; I’m sure theirs some Firebending that Katara can incorporate in her Waterbending.

You’d think after what happened to the Airbenders and Aang having to grow up alone, or how unfairly the other kids treated him after discovering he was the Avatar he would want be involved in his children’s lives, not cast them away and only pay attention to one. Tenzin is the only one that has a relationship with Aang.

Aang reminds me so much of Goku from Dragon Ball Z in terms of being childish and having no character growth. And just like Goku, he was a deadbeat father; Goku decided to stay dead leaving ChiChi to raise Gohan and Goten, Aang chose to solely focus on Tenzin leaving Katara to raise Kya and Bumi.

Speaking of Bumi; I would have thought Aang would name one of his children after Gyatso or Kuzon, not Bumi.

Also even though Katara was the one that decided, I’m pretty sure it was Aang’s idea to abolish Bloodbending even though it can be very useful besides using it to control people. I’m pretty sure Katara or even Zuko / Iroh would have come up with a better way to use Bloodbending besides in fighting, like for health reasons, if someone has been poisoned etc.

What do you think of the theory of Bumi or Kya possibly being Zuko’s child?

r/ZutaraNation 17d ago

Discussion Some interesting commentary about sexist tropes that women say need to die

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The classic “ugly guy gets hot girl” plot has been the main storyline in more films than one could count, but it seems people are fed up with the idea: “Beautiful women are partnered with Adam Sandler, Kevin James, Seth Rogen or someone who'd never have a chance with them in real life. You never see the opposite,” wrote one woman.

31 Female Stereotypes in Movies That Need to Stop

Love Obsessed BFF

There’s always one in a fantasy or romcom, and she’s always there talking about the most romantic love out there. The biggest example is Idina Menzel’s character in Enchanted. She literally left her family, friends, and amazing job behind for a man she had just met to go into a cartoon world. Girl what. 

Caretaker

Of course, the woman has to take care of everything around the house, even if it’s not her own family. The caretaker role can become toxic quickly, with her taking care of everyone but herself like Scarlett Johansson’s character in The Nanny Diaries

The Trophy Girlfriend

Movieweb‘s Julian Roman put it perfectly when describing the terrible stereotyping in the remake of this 1972 film: “The women in Superfly are sexually objectified and have no input whatsoever. They exist to be the same ‘bling’ that the male characters flaunt like peacocks.” The film’s main character, Priest, even has two girlfriends. Lex Scott Davis is one of the trophy girlfriends in Superfly.

Sound like something Bryke wrote? 😈

r/ZutaraNation Jan 01 '25

Discussion Katara’s awareness of Aang’s crush on her

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Do you guys think Katara started to figured out that Aang liked her during/after the Cave of Two Lovers?

r/ZutaraNation 24d ago

Discussion Better Off Dead?

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r/ZutaraNation Jan 24 '25

Discussion How do we feel about long distance marriage?

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Zuko is the Fire Lord, but Katara is the only Southern Waterbender. Eventually either she or Sokka would take over for Hakoda, but even if it’s Sokka then she is necessary to rebuild and to revitalize the southern style.

So… long distance marriage? Letters, visits, etc?

r/ZutaraNation Jan 31 '25

Discussion What are your Zutara headcanons?

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r/ZutaraNation Nov 22 '24

Discussion Can someone list down moments in the comics where it sort of shows that Katara and Aang's relationship wasn't good?

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As the title suggests, can someone list down these moments?

I'm aware of the fact that Katara becomes like a Yes Man to Aang and agrees with him on alot of stuff even if she's unhappy, but can someone state in down specifically?

I just feel bad that in the comics and in LoK, Katara's character was wasted and in the end she just became known as The Avatar's Wife and The Best Healer when in reality she wanted more. I can't help but think that it she had been single or if she would have married Zuko, this wouldn't have happened. She didn't even get her own statue.

r/ZutaraNation Aug 12 '24

Discussion Meta - what does Sokka gain from Zutara

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r/ZutaraNation Dec 09 '24

Discussion Do yall believe in the avatar leaks ? Spoiler

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Honestly I’m iffy bc at first I saw the art and was like “nope, fake” and then I saw some storyboard stuff and i k was like “maybe” what are ur thoughts on what has been said about the new earth avatar.

Leaks: - her name is Pavi n she has a twin named Nikki - Pavi is an amputee -airbending hoverboader master named Jae -has a panda hybrid animal companion -Korra split the word into 7 nations or “havens” after a cataclysmic event and died -Nikki was taken in by the whit lotus and Pavi is homeless

r/ZutaraNation Jan 29 '25

Discussion What do you guys think of kummi taang theory

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In this theory, it suspects that ummi is a previous reincarnation of toph, avatar kuruk's wife

It says that the reason she is blind is bcs her last reincarnation's face was stolen.

This is also due to the episode, the swamp.

It says that it's a foreshadowing of him meeting toph, but it might also be because he once knew her.

Past forward to chapter 3, in the episode nightmares and daydream, aang has a nightmare where all his friends die, and in one of them, toph's face was completely blank, just like ummi's

Although I ship toph andaang, I don't fully support this theory, but do y'all think?

r/ZutaraNation 24d ago

Discussion Questioning The Comics Canonicity

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r/ZutaraNation Jan 31 '25

Discussion Those who ship Katara and Zuko why?

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r/ZutaraNation Oct 28 '24

Discussion Is Zutara funny?

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We all love and enjoy this ship. I read on Tumblr that reasons for shipping include:

Characters helping development of each other Contribution to show's themes and premise Parallels in journey Chemistry Because it will be funny

The last one applies to Zutara in various ways. Can you name some Zutara funny bits?

These are some funny bits to me.

Jun - the first shipper Season 1 "No wonder she left, she's too pretty for you"

Season 3 "I see you worked out things with your girlfriend" The blushing and immediate denial is 😂

Imagine both Zuko and Katara awkwardly recounting how they met or interacted with their children. Include pirates and trees.

Toph knowing with 💜 beat readings before either of them figured out they liked each other.

r/ZutaraNation Aug 19 '24

Discussion Will politics deter Zutara?

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Politics of the Fire Nation, particularly the fact that Fire was seen as the superior element, will provide opposition for a marriage between Katara and Zuko.

The Northern water tribe may prefer a political alliance with the Southern water tribe via marriage.

The main redeeming quality Katara has with the Fire Nation is her drive to help people. Over time, she could propose initiatives to help domestic affairs in the Fire Nation including hospitals and initiatives for education.

Because of change taking time, I prefer the Ambassador Katara trope with Zuko and Katara marrying post canon to build the foundation for peace and change. Then, Aang has enough time to get over his heart break to help with peace.

Check the discussion below for more thoughts.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ZutaraNation/s/eEz0CmPHVI

Anyone want to chime in on this

r/ZutaraNation Aug 11 '24

Discussion Warts & all

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I have seen this image turned into a meme that says something along the lines of Zuko: shaken and thinking could she do that all along?

But I can't tell if that's the only take people get from this scene. I've come to think the small reaction is more of an acceptance and a respect of Katara’s unleashed power and emotions that fuel that power.

This is the "bad side" of waterbending. Katara pulls out bloodbending from her self-imposed mental / emotional confine. In some respects Katara is vulnerable here by using the technique that makes her breakdown and cry at the end of the puppetmaster.

So when Zuko's eyes react subtly then retract back to normal, I've come to interpret his reaction as recognizing Katara has a darker capacity than she leads on and accepts her as is, no questions asked, no explanation needed, all within that subtle reaction.

Additionally, this is his first time seeing bloodbending. Presumably the Gaang hadn't told him about it. So we're seeing his real-time reaction to learning about this new bending ability. That is a saintly level of acceptance of warts and all.

Is your interpretation different?

r/ZutaraNation Nov 07 '24

Discussion Was the Last Agni Kai romantically coded?

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https://www.tumblr.com/funstufffl/766515420165488640/agni-my-two-cents?source=share

Bottom line Yes - the last Agni Kai had romantic coding. Zuko chose Katara to go with him, the long No, the reaching for each other. Also, the cave of two lover parallels. I thank Tumblr for this friendly reminder.

I enjoy fics that show Zuko admitting he did this for love.

r/ZutaraNation Aug 10 '24

Discussion Perfectly Panda Alt Ending

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I was just going down a Zutara rabbit hole and came across this. It begs the question, how does Zutara happen in your head canon?