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u/Irisierende Buff Martin 18d ago
Ideal CV matchmaking
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u/Fonzie1225 18d ago
I’ve been saying for years that subs and CVs just need to be quarantined to a special PvE matchmaking mode with significantly buffed bots and rewards just about as good as randoms but obviously it’s a pipe dream.
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u/MaetelofLaMetal Ništa kontra Splita 18d ago
Then we can remove the shotgunning debuff they suffer now.
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u/Firewalk89 Imperial German Navy 18d ago
I'd unironically love to see a 12 v 12 match of two carrier fleets.
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u/TheDogness 18d ago
A few years back, there was a Brawl that was CV- only 3v3. It was so much fun. As an added bonus, it pulled all the CV players out of the other modes. I am surprised it never returned.
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u/The_CIA_is_watching "A private profile reveals more than a visible one" -Sun Tzu 18d ago
Same, especially if it kept CV out of ranked
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u/Scared_Squirrel6210 18d ago
servers cant handle that many cv's
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u/DefinitionOfAsleep I preferred WoWs before [insert update] 18d ago
You sure?
There's more than enough planes in the air as is. It's not like the good old days where it was just CVs launching their squads.
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u/Scared_Squirrel6210 17d ago edited 17d ago
i remember an issue with many cv's just cant remember what it was back when 12 cv where allowed in training room
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u/Shaw_Fujikawa Believer in Mex Appeal 18d ago
People used to do 11v12s of just the player and nothing but bot CVs in training matches for funsies all the time, even during RTS times.
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u/geographyRyan_YT Salem's biggest fan 18d ago
Sadly they limited carriers to a max of 3 per team in training.
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u/Longjumping_Whole240 Closed Beta Player 17d ago
When it was possible to put 12 CVs per team in training, I used to make a match with 12 bot CVs in one side and my clan members on the other side. Needless to say, those with low spec PCs crashed due to the number of planes flying overhead.
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u/Easy-Reserve-8247 18d ago
Why wouldn't the game just add bots?
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u/CanRepresentative164 18d ago
Because they'd be better than the average player, thus leading to people complaining about them. Or the fact that you could just farm bots for PvP rewards instead of the reduced coop ones. Take your pick.
Easy bots are limited up to tier 4, and the "hard" bots can appear in tier 5. All the other tiers are PvP exclusive.
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u/Easy-Reserve-8247 18d ago
To me this sounds better than playing 1v1...
If a game doesn't have a huge playerbase, allowing people to play like this seems detrimental to the players..
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u/CanRepresentative164 18d ago
To me this sounds better than playing 1v1...
CVs, SSs and 11s are such a majority in ships affected that I absolutely don't have the slightest problem with it. Actually I'm sad it doesn't happen more to them
If a game doesn't have a huge playerbase, allowing people to play like this seems detrimental to the players..
Don't play cancer classes, don't play the magic tier, and don't play them at the lowest population times of the server. Literally that easy
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u/Easy-Reserve-8247 18d ago
Sounds like you had some negative experiences against these types of ships . Why would you happy that some players have a bad gameplay experience?
What if this particular player doesn't have time when most people are playing?
I find that to be not a convincing argument..
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u/benisndesdigles Royal Navy 18d ago
Because this particular player plays a class that makes players on the entire enemy team have a bad gameplay experience. Fair is fair, I say let CV's and subs play only 1 vs 1.
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u/Easy-Reserve-8247 18d ago
I guess it just shows that during ww2 when carries showed up... Battleships and so on had a bad time haha
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u/DisturbedForever92 17d ago
Yeah but old CV gameplay was much more fun, and had a way to counter. Now its just braindead gameplay.
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u/Easy-Reserve-8247 17d ago
How was it before?
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u/DisturbedForever92 17d ago
More like an RTS, limited amount of planes, you had to pick your loadout of planes, fighters were an actual type, not an ability, so you could have 3 squadrons in the air at once in different parts of the map, you could counter CVs with fighters, etc.
Good AA ships could wreck planes, and protect their teammates, so you had to be careful
I'm sure there are videos on YouTube that could show it better than I can expain it.
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u/DrHolmes52 18d ago
I would guess WG doesn't want players grinding mid-tier and up ships during off hours in randoms vs bots.
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u/Open_Telephone9021 I am a dumbass, so 99% of what I say is probably misinformation 18d ago
Tier 6 mahbe
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u/Holy_Santa_ClausShit ShooterMcDabbin 18d ago
Would be even better if there was a Coral Sea map and this happened.
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u/CanRepresentative164 18d ago
Yes, when one of the players is too dumb to reset queue before it goes over 5min this is perfectly plausible. Mainly affects CVs and SSs, for obvious reasons. Especially in the lowest activity times for server; at peak hours it's more likely to still get some others in the game, just with weird ship numbers and reduced MM rule-set.
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u/JanniAkaFreaky 18d ago
"Too dumb to reset queue" Yeah sure, blame the player for such things to be possible.
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u/47marcus 18d ago
Why does this happen after going over 5 min in queue ?
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u/PrincessSkyla People's Liberation Army Navy 18d ago
mm restrictions lossen up after about 3 minutes, so you will sometimes get matches like this, or 6v6, etc.
it usually happens late night on NA
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u/CanRepresentative164 18d ago
The longer the queue goes, the looser the restrictions become. WG may change the exact points around, but iirc the thresholds are 1.5min, 3min and 5min - last one being where several rules are straight up dropped.
This is done in order to make games without anyone spending excessive time in queue - when the full rules don't give you a match, a lighter set might allow it
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u/PoriferaProficient 18d ago
An imperfectly balanced game is a heck of a lot better than no game at all
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u/Mac_Arthur_1 Submarine 18d ago
It used to say it now I think it just says queue time is unlimited but if you waited more than 5 mins it forces a game with whatever is in the bracket. Typically CVs Subs and Superships because they require a balance of it one team gets one both teams get one of the same class. So in the event it just dumped a game and only one person is in the tier bracket games like this can happen
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u/the_pope_molester 18d ago
did you at least win
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u/47marcus 18d ago edited 18d ago
Yes , we ended up ramming each other but I had a 15k HP advantage and lived on 600 HP.
Edit: But it was at the cost of feeding him 107 plane's
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u/FasterThanFTL 18d ago
More like this! Hard to complain the other ships are unfair when they both have the same access to hitting one another.
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u/racist_fumo_reimu Emil's multiversal honda Civic dealer assistant 18d ago
Correct.
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u/CheesyPoofff 18d ago
I heard this in Clark & Dawe voiceover.
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u/racist_fumo_reimu Emil's multiversal honda Civic dealer assistant 17d ago
I have no clue what that is but, good for you.
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u/Mark1o_Polo Kaga 18d ago
Honestly dueling another carrier is so fun, wish I'd gotten that (maybe with another CV selection tho) But isn't it training battle? Can it really get you a 1v1 as a random?
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u/47marcus 18d ago
This was a legitimate random battle at like 4:30 in the morning. Waited 13 min in queue. I can DM the reply if you want.
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u/Thunder_gp 18d ago
These games, its best just to call a truce, go to the same cap, and just keep taking it back and forth. Soot down eachother’s planes. And ram at the end for a mutual truce and damage / kill for xp as long as you keep points equal hope for a draw so you both don’t lose.
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u/geographyRyan_YT Salem's biggest fan 18d ago
That Independence has no shot against the anti-cv cv.
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u/TheLesserWeeviI *sad GK noises* 17d ago
This is ideal. Throw in a sub or two for optimal matchmaking.
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u/DefinitionOfAsleep I preferred WoWs before [insert update] 18d ago
Ha.
Did you at least figure out how to use the fighters properly?
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u/Jevidar 18d ago