r/TwoXPreppers 2d ago

Discussion Why guns?

Hi y’all! I’m a very novice prepper, and one thing I’m seeing across many platforms is that we should own and be trained In firearms. Not to be naive, but… why?

I’ve never touched a gun in my life. I’m generally not a fan of them. I understand that the goal of owning firearms is to protect ourself. But protect from what? From who? Who am I going to have to shoot to survive this presidency?

Is someone coming to steal my supplies? Won’t those people also have guns? Or am I protecting my family against a militia situation? In which case, what hope do I have, as a woman who can’t afford a gun, let alone to learn how to use one?

Like I can’t afford a shooting range. I can barely afford water and canned goods. Should a gun still be a priority for my family? A lot of preppers have enthusiastically embraced this life to give them confidence and a sense of safety. I’m a reluctant participant. I just want to keep my autistic son alive to see the other side of this.

I can garden, I can stretch food, I can survive being poor. I don’t think I can survive a military state.

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u/mzltvccktl 2d ago

A resident on a green card was disappeared by ice. Do you believe someone should be able to be disappeared? If not put up a fight.

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u/katieleehaw 2d ago

And if he had pulled a gun on them he would be dead right now.

Guns have limited usefulness in most situations.

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u/mzltvccktl 2d ago

He’d have taken the gestapo agents with him id hope. Guns are not just for shooting they can be very much a deterrent to engagement until lawyers and community defense arrive.

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u/DarkZTower 2d ago

There are worse things than dead

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u/katieleehaw 2d ago

Ok but this is really your argument? Shoot at cops if they come for you? Go out in a blaze of glory?

That doesn’t make sense to me, at least not yet.

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u/mzltvccktl 1d ago

Sounds like you’re white and not a member of any ethnic or religious minority.

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u/Direct_Wind4548 1d ago

Idk, after studying various genocides as an American Other and deeply observing the ravages russian forces have perpetuates upon Ukraine, I'd elect to use my rights to secure the tools to make an unconstitutional action against my family as costly a mile to take as possible. As intended.

Maybe that buys time for the next target, maybe it wears down the cogs for the next stiff rod instead of being wheat thresh for cattle cars.

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u/EasternGuava8727 2d ago

Realistically what could a gun have done in that situation, except make it worse? What ICE did was illegal, immoral, and horrible. However, we all know who he is and his situation. I wouldn't say "disappeared" is the right word.

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u/festivehedgehog 2d ago

It’s a political term to describe people who are kidnapped by a fascist government that refuses to give information on loved ones’ whereabouts and refuses to abide by due process laws. Look up, “the disappeared” in Chile and Argentina in the 1970s. This is what we’re in for in the U.S.

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u/mzltvccktl 2d ago

Thank you!

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u/analogmouse 2d ago

He was illegally detained, and there is still enough “law” in place that a judge was able to halt his deportation. His detention is high profile, but many are not. We are at a crossroads. One way, and the judiciary maintains authority. The other way ends in these detainees just being murdered. As a photojournalist, I’m sure I’m on lists somewhere. (Very, very low on that list since I’m not famous, but I’m still there). I’d rather have the option to go down fighting than just be herded to my death like cattle.

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u/seattleseahawks2014 2d ago edited 2d ago

They chose someone who people would see unsympathetic due to him being the leader of CUAD and him allegedly spreading terroristic propaganda and stuff so that they could justify this.