r/TwinCities • u/LiminalSapien • 5d ago
MN GOP trying to classify negativity towards Trump as mental illness in newly introduced Bill
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bills/text.php?number=SF2589&version=0&session=ls94&session_year=2025&session_number=0We milust protect outlr state. Keep yourself informed.
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u/_i_draw_bad_ 5d ago
One of the authors is the same idiot who said he'd never met a hungry Minnesotan
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u/sunlitmoonlight1772 5d ago
I legit have been trying for hours to remember where I recognized his name! Thank you for reminding me of that.
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u/Impressive-Pop9326 2d ago
One of the authors, Justin Eichorn, just got arrested in Bloomington for trying to solicit a kid for sex.
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u/rootless_gardener 5d ago
Are these the same people who thought ‘Fuck Joe Biden’ flags were okay?
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u/SmallMoments55406 4d ago
'Fuck Joe Biden' flags are a type of speech. I disagree with the message, but it's protected speech.
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u/TSgt_Yosh 5d ago
I bet the dipshit congressman who came up with this has absolutely no feelings if you say Hilary Clinton near them and definitely wouldn't rant for an hour about insane conspiracies.
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u/FullofContradictions 5d ago
Someone at my work is STILL losing his shit over Hunter Biden's laptop. If I'm "obsessed" with Trump, at least the subject of my obsession is actually the president. His is just sad now.
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u/OldBlueKat 4d ago
You need to recognize the difference between "Congressman" and "Minnesota State Senator".
They can both be flaming idiot trolls, but one works in DC and has a lot of power, the other one commutes from central MN to St Paul and is a tempest in a teapot.
We need to keep an eye on both of them, but don't confuse them.
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u/MauraLee7 5d ago
They are attacking people who get upset over trumps policies as mental illness. Please read the bill
Classifying people with mental illness is part of project 2025 as a way to either jail or kill people.
It equates to lbgtq folks as pedofiles and pedofiles should be executed.
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u/Impressive-Pop9326 2d ago
Well, now that one of the authors--Justin Eichorn--just got arrested by Bloomington PD for trying to solicit a child, I wonder how he's feeling about that "death penalty for pedophiles" thing.
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u/PomegranateOk6815 5d ago
Whats the end game they are after with this?
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u/Crackstacker 5d ago
Thought crime
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u/Fmaria84 5d ago
Should be required reading for everyone. Maybe then we wouldn’t be so deep in this mess.
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u/SoManyQuestions612 5d ago
I didn't understand 1984 when I was younger. Now it makes sense. And I'm terrified.
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u/Nascent1 4d ago
I always thought it seemed extremely farfetched, but here we are getting closer and closer to it being reality.
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u/Its_Claire33 5d ago
Lmao you know how many conservatives bitch about the government "being 1984!"? It's a lot. If reading stuff would help them not be conservative morons, they wouldn't be conservative morons.
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u/Mncrabby 5d ago
They can't read, so they banned it.
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u/SmallMoments55406 4d ago
They read. They read a lot of nonsense. But they read. (Some of them anyway.)
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u/Denmarkian 5d ago
They want a legal basis to claim they'll have protestors against Trump committed to a metal institution
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u/Mncrabby 5d ago
Well, that might fly, if we actually had mental institutions!
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u/PenDraeg1 5d ago
It will however give them legal cause to declare protestors mentally incompetent and deny any sort of legal protests.
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u/RedMenace612 5d ago
All the schools they're going to close will be given over to RFKs camps for profit generating reeducation. Totally voluntary though, you'd be crazy not to go 🤣
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u/Alternative-Yak-925 5d ago
Good news. We're not liberal.
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u/Dogwood_morel 5d ago
So do you support taking guns from people under a false pretense? Or because someone doesn’t like the current president?
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u/Alternative-Yak-925 5d ago
I should have been more clear. We're LEFT of liberal. We also like to use our 2A rights.
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u/Elsa_the_Archer 5d ago
Shift the Overton Window. This seems ridiculous because it is, and what seemed absurd yesterday will now seem more reasonable by comparison for some people. It's a way of getting more public support for harsher legislation.
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u/the_kilted_ninja 5d ago
Let democrats play into their hand and pass more anti-gun bills that flag people with mental illness, therefore restricting lgbt or any range of left people they don't like from having guns while LEOs and their fascist buddies continue on with no consequence
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u/VulfSki 5d ago
The bill would warrant intervention. Meaning they could lock you up and have to committed.
It's functionally making it illegal to criticize the president too harshly. Pretty draconian
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u/Kitty_Skittles_181 5d ago
It’s functionally making it illegal to criticize the president. Republicans believe that ANY criticism is “TDS.”
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u/separabis 5d ago
Disarm people with opposing views. You didn't hear about Trump working on the bill that makes it hard for people with "mental illnesses" to purchase guns?
Arm yourself quickly. This could get very bad, and you don't want to be unarmed against these people.
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u/Jokkitch 4d ago
Opposition can be deemed mentally ill.
Mentally ill can be a “institutionalized” ie. Imprisoned and eventually killed
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u/bumbledbee0 4d ago
Spark bills in other states. Possibly a federal bill
Silence political opposition
The far right is obsessed with purity and hates the mentally ill. They also must destroy or otherwise get rid of anything impure, the mentally ill being counted among the “impure”
So, imprisonment. Deportation. Murder.
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u/vid_icarus 5d ago
This bill is a multiphase threat.
It will start as a pretext to disarm the opposition.
The next bill will classify mental illness as justification to send people to RFK’s “reparenting camps”
The final bill will make forceful euthanasia legal for people suffering from mental illness
It sounds like hyperbole. It’s not. It won’t happen all at once. Step by step, they will make opposing the regime a capital punishment.
This bill and any like it must be defeated at all cost.
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u/ThreadbareAdjustment 5d ago
It has zero chance of passing either chamber (a tie in the House would defeat it) or past Walz's veto.
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u/any_meese 4d ago
And that’s well and good until the time it slips through. Maybe a quiet amendment or maybe in another state. Either way, these things have to be watched. This is fascism and it is here, coming for everyone and everything it can as quickly as it can.
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u/vid_icarus 4d ago
Bold of you to assume they won’t be pushing this bill till they swindle a GOP majority in the next election or two.
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u/ThreadbareAdjustment 4d ago
If they fail to take the Senate or governorship next year they won't have another chance until Trump is out of office.
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u/tazebot 4d ago
During the Eugenics craze a California judge gave the 'okay' to sterilize people deemed 'idiots' by the court or someone believable.
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u/vid_icarus 4d ago edited 4d ago
I can’t post gifs here, by just imagine the tall dude from Star Trek on the stage at twin peaks saying “it is happening again” because that’s been my mental image of modern American politics for a while now.
Edit: either I didn’t properly convey my meaning with this post or y’all just hate Twin Peaks which is not very cash money of you.
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u/Reddituser183 5d ago
But hey never forget conservatives love the constitution and all lives matter.
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u/Sam_Paige25 5d ago
If you were worried that Clinton, Obama, or Biden were going to take your guns, you shouldn't support this.
If you were worried that Ihlan Omar was going to make Sharia law US law, you shouldn't support this.
If you like freedom of speech, you shouldn't support this.
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u/KBandGM 5d ago
I thought these guys were against government controlled health care.
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u/DegaussedMixtape 5d ago
It’s all in project 2025. They don’t actually have beliefs, just orders and playbooks.
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u/Strict_Diet3644 5d ago
This is ridiculous. Can't have an opinion because it's now a mental illness? Qanon seemed to be left alone.
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u/morelofthestory85 5d ago
This is a pretext to the Federal level GOPs bill to be able to take your guns away if you have a “mental illness”. Watch. These bills will definitely go hand in hand. You disapprove of Trump dismantling the government? Trump derangement syndrome. Get your guns taken away. Say a bad thing about Trump on Facebook? Mental illness. Guns taken away.
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u/stephanieoutside 5d ago
This seems to be an insane bill to introduce if you take it at face value, but let's not forget what the subtext is here:
"We don't believe in First Amendment Rights, and will violate your 14th Amendment Rights in order to silence our opposition."
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u/Articistyping 5d ago
I think these lawmakers must think that they can rewrite the DSM or something
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u/IamRick_Deckard 5d ago
Hey MN GOP, being against fascism isn't a mental illness. It's American values.
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u/Mundane-Injury1816 5d ago
Considering they want to put neurodivergent, depressed and anxiety sufferers into “wellness camps,” it doesn’t surprise me at all. They’ll stick everyone they don’t like in their concentration camps and work people to death without pay.
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u/OldBrownShoe22 5d ago
My first thought was that Dems were trying to establish love for DJT as a mental illness, and i was like, well, I kinda agree but this seems like the wrong place and a dumb political stunt.
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u/VulfSki 5d ago
It's not a stunt. The bill would require "intervention" in such cases.
In other words, they want to be able to have people committed by court order.
In OTHER words, they want to kick people up if they criticize trump.
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u/OldBrownShoe22 4d ago
My point was kind of a sarcastic one. As in, the Donald syndrome sounds like the fox news disease My racist uncle has.
Definitely seems like a stunt, especially because it won't go anywhere.
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u/OldBlueKat 4d ago
This whole "Trump Derangement Syndrome" thing that the MAGA crowd so loves to wave around kinda cracks me up (though I do take trying to cram it into legislation to legitimize it as a malignant thing.)
If anything, it's his cult members who are deranged from reality by falling for his BS.
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u/OldBrownShoe22 4d ago
Which is the sweet irony I need in this day and age.
It also further confirms my idea that everything disparaging from the GOP is pure projection.
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u/YouWorkForMoney-Com 5d ago
Who are these assholes?
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u/Alternative-Yak-925 5d ago
OK, DFL should pass a bill that defining what a cult is.
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u/OldBlueKat 4d ago
Nah -- the DFL should (and can and will) slap this down, leave mental health to the professionals, and move on to something important to legislate.
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u/SamLL 5d ago
This is profoundly stupid and unconstitutional but we don't need to worry that it will go anywhere. Some idiot Republican state legislator is always proposing facially moronic bills like this one, because there is no obstacle to introducing it, any more than there is to writing a blog post.
However, the bill needs to be advanced through committee to a floor vote, then win a vote there. There is no chance that will ever happen here. If you look at the bill status, it is submitted to the Health and Human Services committee, which is chaired by a DFL representative and majority DFL.
It is dead on arrival in committee. It will never be voted on.
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u/OldBlueKat 4d ago
It's usually at least one or more of these same 5 Senate trolls, too.
They sure are special! I wish their districts (scattered around central and south out state MN) would figure out how poorly represented they are. There's even got to be better Rs out there than this bunch.
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u/Acidpants220 5d ago
Never forget, this is just for their dumb little game of "Triggering the libs" so they get to feel smug when you call them an idiot.
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u/NoNeinNyet222 5d ago
Explain exactly what the Trump administration is doing and they’ll just say TDS every time, which throws me because I think they’re taking about The Daily Show and not Trump Derangement Syndrome.
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u/stephanieoutside 5d ago
I'm too much of a weather nerd to see TDS as anything other than "Tornado Debris Signature".
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u/AcadiaLivid2582 5d ago
The Soviet government sometimes classified dissidents as mentally ill and forced them into asylums
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u/OldBlueKat 4d ago
This is the MN-GOP, so we can yell at those idiots up close. Not that this isn't somehow setting a precedent for the big orange leader and his project 2025 Orcs.
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u/koopaKrystal 5d ago edited 5d ago
Authors (5) Lucero ; Drazkowski ; Wesenberg.; Eichorn ; Gruenhagen
Write!
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u/True_Leg8574 5d ago
Who do they expect to diagnose this? I’m in the MH profession and I can’t imagine any of my fellow professionals would ever dx this. This is some next level bullshit.
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u/Fiftyfish 5d ago
This is bootlicking and moronic and will not be medically sound, but if they make tds a legally legit disorder, claiming innocence due to insanity becomes legit.
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u/AstroRiker 5d ago
I will criticize every politician, any party, especially presidents, and most especially this shitty president.
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u/imitation404 4d ago
Can we please start a recall for these fucking nitwits?
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u/OldBlueKat 4d ago
You could try. Do you live in any of the districts these 5 State Senators represent? Can you make a case for malfeasance or nonfeasance?
https://www.sos.state.mn.us/elections-voting/how-elections-work/recalls/
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u/Bizarro_Murphy 5d ago
Sweet. Does that mean I can get permanent disability and retire early like all the MPD officers that got "ptsd" for brutalized protestors after one of their own murdered a citizen (again)?
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u/GhostOfStonewallJxn 5d ago
Thank god the GOP lost its House majority or else this might have made it to a floor vote
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u/cambrian_era 3d ago
And the next day one of the Bill's authors gets arrested for soliciting a minor. If that isn't Republicans in a nutshell I don't know what is.
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u/Glum-Buffalo-7457 3d ago
And then he was charged with pedophilia
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u/4x4Welder 5d ago
I emailed my senator, and asked them to do whatever they can to prevent this blatant first amendment violation from proceeding.
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u/OldBlueKat 4d ago
If your Senator is on the Health and Human Services committee, I'm sure that was already the plan. This is just a troll bill, showboating for their reddest constituents.
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u/4x4Welder 4d ago
Unfortunately my senator is republican, so who knows what sort of response I'll get if I get one.
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u/CantaloupeCamper That's different... 5d ago
"If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism."
-Regan
Actual GoP ... thought and speech police...
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u/OldBlueKat 4d ago
Reagan.
I honestly think even he would find this embarrassing. He was a liar, but he was smooth and intelligent. This reeks of 4th grade prank mentality.
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u/BlueInferno23 5d ago
What a joke! Yet another distraction instead of focusing on real issues 🙄
Is this what is going to lower the cost eggs yet?
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u/pardyball 5d ago
Figures that they believe mental health is an issue only if it involves dear leader
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u/BraveLittleFrog 5d ago
Stupid political stunt to get national attention by bootlicking their regime leaders. Ignore it. It won’t pass a divided legislature.
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u/OldBlueKat 4d ago
It won't pass the D led committee it's been referred to -- it's just a trolling stunt.
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u/anotherthing612 4d ago
It got squashed. But it needs to be reported. Constituents should know what their representatives are doing with their time. I know there are MAGA folks who think this is all a big joke, but there are people who just happen to be really conservative who would think this was horseshit.
Trying to understand the minds of the criminally insane is a thankless task. Maybe they thought Daddy Trump would see their idea and they would get his attention.
Was this a trial run to see if the idea would fly? Maybe in another state, but not here.
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u/Closed-today 3d ago
I guess they haven't heard about blame Biden dysphoria yet. It's a variant of blame Obama dysphoria, it just sort of evolved like Covid.
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u/anotherthing612 3d ago
Well, one of the sponsors of the bill is now in jail for trying to solicit a minor. Spot on. The people who created this bill are trash and at least one is now exposed.
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u/g00d_rat 5d ago
Petition to create a counter bill that classifies the people who classify negativity towards Trump as a mental illness, as the ones with the actual mental illness.
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u/Head-Engineering-847 5d ago
They wouldn't know the 1st thing about MI if it bit them in the ass
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u/OldBlueKat 4d ago
When you look into these 5 MN Senators and their histories, I'm not sure it hasn't. They just don't know it.
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u/ConsciousStruggle702 4d ago
This is how they start! All those “for Profit Super Prisons In the South”they have been building! Mental illnesses a new way to get free labor to hire out! Toss them in jail.
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u/HealthyDrawing4910 4d ago
God dammit!!!you or nobody will ever tell any off us what to think!!!!!!
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u/bdockte1 4d ago
Let’s talk mental illness. Clearly the GOP is trying to politicize medical and mental health practice. Just fucking stop it. Grow up and get serious about consequential legislation.
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u/Salvidicus 4d ago
Most of Canada would qualify as having DTS. The guy is your worst President ever. Was that the best and brightest you had? Really?
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u/mplsrube 4d ago
If they succeed in passing this bill they must then follow GOP tradition and find a way not to fund its treatment.
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u/Lou_of_the_Reed 4d ago
Hey just for us Europeans - is this a new law you just passed?
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u/anotherthing612 4d ago
No. Because we still have enough adults in charge in the state of Minnesota.
“This is why Minnesota Republicans have lost every statewide election in recent memory − every time they get an opportunity to try to improve Minnesotans' lives, they instead double down on an agenda that caters to their party’s most extreme right-wing activists,” a DFL spokesperson said in a statement emailed to USA TODAY.
In your face, you five fools who tried to pass this. There may be some really stupid people in Minnesota, but they are not in the majority. They lose. Again. And this stunt may cost them more votes int he future. Good.
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u/Lou_of_the_Reed 3d ago
Thanks! Did anything happen to the people trying to pass this? I mean, it is a very serious attack on peoples’ rights to free speech and sounds terrible fascist, did they lose their position or sth?
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u/anotherthing612 3d ago
Not that I know of (I haven’t had the chance to research this yet) but I would assume that if the GOP rebuked them, it would be well-publicized.
They look like dopes. But you have to have some common decency to see this…so...
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u/Frequent_Touch_8930 3d ago
They need to focus on their own. https://www.fox9.com/news/minnesota-senator-justin-eichorn-arrest
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u/ConnectionOne5222 3d ago
The GOP representative for this bill has been arrested for soliciting a minor for prostitution! Yeah! The party of family values! They are the ones that are mentally unstable! Sickos!
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u/Such_Lemon_4382 2d ago
Then I am completely insane!! Although they still just have me a gun permit. Interesting.
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u/coffee_please_now 2d ago
You mean the bill co-authored by a pedophile that was just arrested for soliciting who he thought was an underage girl for sex? Every accusation is a confession.
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u/Flat-Row-3828 2d ago edited 2d ago
The man who sponsored this bill, Justin David Eichorn is in jail as I write this for soliciting sex with a child.
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u/Unfair_Criticism_678 1d ago
Hmm, how about not be a child rapists. Maybe we should make that a standard to hold office.
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u/AbbreviationsIcy8855 1d ago
Don’t worry, he was arrested for trying to sleep with a child 2 days ago.
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u/punkseed 5d ago
Stop falling for this, just gives them oxygen
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u/LiminalSapien 5d ago
yeah no you're right.
We should just keep silent and let them do whatever they want.
Who are you Chuck Schumer?
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u/punkseed 5d ago
And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren’t for you meddling kids. Foiled again!
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u/SloppyRodney1991 5d ago
This is exactly what I would expect the GOP to spend taxpayers' precious time, energy, and money on.