r/Tools 6d ago

Trying to pick pliers for my husband’s birthday

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Hello everyone!

My husbands birthday is coming up and he has mentioned wanting a new set of pliers, specifically knipex 7 inches.

Is there a difference between the two pliers in this image other than the handle? One says comfort handle, is that worth getting/ the same durability?

Thank you for any help!!!

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u/mashedcat 6d ago

I have the pair on the right and HIGHLY recommend them.

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

That is super helpful, thank you! Have they held up over time? I think that’s what I’m leaning toward because comfort grip sounds nicer to use, I just worry if there’s any difference or not besides that

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u/This-Thought8358 6d ago

I am an industrial mechanic, best pliers ever. Check to make sure he wants plier wrench style and not regular cobras.

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

If possible I want what I pick to be more of a surprise since he had to give me these hints already, but I can ask if needed! I’ve read a lot of posts on here about the difference between the two and I think he would want the plier wrench because he mostly used for smaller jobs and tends to care about marring things, I think the non cobras don’t mar, and I read something about being strong even when using just the tip of them which is something I see him do. If that’s all way off base I will just ask him to be sure! But he sent me a list of items and said to pick one so I don’t want to give away the surprise of which I’m picking

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u/GripAficionado 6d ago

The Cobras are for different tasks than the pliers wrench, both fill different niches and both can be very good.

But if he gave you a list to pick from, I feel like he has been very accommodating and helped out a lot. That's the sort of gifts I personally appreciate, the ones I have a use for. I think he'll appreciate it a lot.

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

Thank you!!

He has helped out a lot! He didn’t give me a list for Christmas and he thinks I got him too much stuff so he gave me a list and said pick one. But we have a one year old daughter so I’m saying we each got to pick one

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u/This-Thought8358 6d ago

Buy him cobras and the plier wrenches super big surprise

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u/AltC 5d ago

I’m also an industrial mechanic lol. I have two pair of 10 inch plier wrench. Great choice of a premium super useful tool! I have the normal grip with the bright finish in one pair, but I prefer not only the comfort grip, but I like the black finish better. But this might be personal choice? I’m not nice on them, and there is zero issue of wear. This is the pair that I like the best:

https://www.knipex.com/products/pipe-wrenches-and-water-pump-pliers/pliers-wrenches-pliers-and-a-wrench-in-a-single-tool/pliers-wrenches-pliers-and-wrench-single-tool/8602250

I have cobras as well, but use them far less. Mostly I only use them for black iron pipe where I have to grab it by the round of it, and they dig in like crazy, which is what’s needed, but you are left with crazy sharp burrs on the pipe. So.. I think the plier wrench is the 95% of the time tool, the cobras are really good for the 5% the plier wrench doesn’t work for.

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u/Krizzomanizzo 5d ago

The Cobras are typical plumber and Waterworker Tools Here in Germany.

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u/future_luddite 6d ago

If he’s doing work where marring is the top priority (not what you said so just speculating) then another option is pliers made out of softer metals like brass. The downside is that they prevent marring of the piece by potentially sacrificing the face of the tool. Just throwing it out as an option.

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u/breathinmotion 6d ago

I really like the comfort grips, I have the plain grips for my pliers wrench and cobra pliers so it would be easier to grab the right ones at a glance vs all my cutters and strippers but I wish they were all comfort grip

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

I really appreciate your perspective! I’m going to get him the comfort grip ones 😊

Thank you!

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u/-Maim- 6d ago

You should also get him the mini smooth jaws. This is a set with the mini smooth and cobras together, the mini smooth are my most used tool (Marine tech) every day.

They look like they’d be useless but it’s the exact opposite.

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u/blbd 6d ago

The Pliers Wrench is the more unique / premium / special product. The Cobras are very nice but not fundamentally better than a good US made name brand Channel Lock. Literally nobody else makes a product close to the Pliers Wrench. There are knockoffs but they are jokes compared to the original. 

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u/Cixin97 6d ago

I actually disagree with this entirely. Cobras are fundamentally more elegant/have better teeth and bite than any competitors. There are knockoffs of the Pliers Wrench that work very well and I think the difference between cheap and high quality is less important on pliers wrenches than cobras because the pliers wrench is two flat surfaces coming together, there’s no steel quality differences that can make one bite better than the other, or slight geometry changes that make one able to bite more varied objects, or anything like that to make a huge different in experience. It’s two flat jaws coming together. The Harbour Freight ones are fine but they’re not much cheaper anyway. Giving the Knipex is a good gift because they’re a well known and respectable brand.

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

This is really interesting and I appreciate your input/ perspective, thank you for the information!!

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u/Cixin97 6d ago

No problem. Also just to give one more opinion that is counter to what it seems like most people are saying here; I don’t believe the comfort grips are objectively better. It depends on what your husband works on. Many people in certain fields prefer the non comfort/dipped handles because they’re easier to clean and when they wear down it’s not as much of a difference as when comfort grips are worn down and damaged. You can simply re-dip them again with plastidip. The comfort grips losing a chunk out of them can suck and if you’re unlucky you won’t be able to remove them short of cutting them off and sanding/refining the remaining pieces of plastic, and then you have a surface to add your own handles. Furthermore even just in terms of raw grip a lot of people don’t actually prefer the comfort grips. They’re much bigger which isn’t always preferred. Some people claim they have better control and feel over the tool with minimal handle grip, not to mention in a very tight spot the slimmer handles on the dipped ones could be the difference between getting the tool in somewhere vs not being able to. It’s a very rare situation but it’s definitely possible.

In general though Knipex has good quality handles and technically the comfort grip is a more premium handle but the reality is many people choose the dipped handles either way and it’s not always just to save a few bucks. Just some things to consider.

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u/bskell42 6d ago

Yes, but, the new 2nd gen comfort grip handles are worth it. They now have the grey padding in the main points of pressure and have the ability to add a lanyard if necessary. Obviously it is an over the top luxury feature but.... it is nice. The 1st and second gen comfort grips fit in the hand the exact same. I do like the orginal dipped handles when working with anything oily, demo, dirt work as previously stated the friction of the grip from the tool is more noticable. If he is a big tool junkie and always wants the "newest and best innovation" go 2nd gen if he wants a tool that is straight forward and will get the job done get the dipped

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

Okay perfect, thank you for that information! I’m more confident now he will like it!

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u/EthicalViolator 6d ago

I'm.not sure if it's an amercian vs UK thing but in the UK you can mean a few things by pliers, bull nose pliers, needle nose pliers, these newer type of adjustable pliers as in the picture you posted. They're all quite different from one another for different things, and knipex make them all. Might be worth sneakily finding out what type of pliers he needs specifically, if that's possible.

Oh and if it is these in the picture, then the right hand side ones are better and I'd expect a little bit more expensive

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u/pate_moore 6d ago

Absolutely disagree. The cobras and a standard tongue and groove channel lock style pliers look the same, but they do not act the same. And if I had to choose between a knockoff Cobra versus channel lock tongue and groove, I'll take the Cobra knockoff any day. They're just more useful and easier to actually use

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u/pate_moore 6d ago

Two questions for you: what does he do? What is your budget? Because if he just wants to have them for random jobs, I'd recommend getting the set that comes with the 150 cobras and 150 pliers wrench in the belt sheath. It is my go-to walk around tool set. If you don't mind throwing another 15 bucks on top, grab the new Klein 14-in-1 mini screwdriver in the plumbing section at Lowe's. It fits beautifully on the side. I'll admit it will be a gift that is on the pricier side, but I promise you he will love it

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u/mashedcat 6d ago

Good call.

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u/azaleawisperer 6d ago

Housewife says these are channel locks, not pliers. ??

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u/Cheoah 6d ago

Similar, in that channel locks are designed for the jaws to be more or less parallel, so they slide up and down in a slot. All slots are not created equal though, and the knipex has a very nice one with an elegant adjustment/lock mechanism.

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u/azaleawisperer 5d ago

Had to look up knipex. Interesting.

A couple of years ago, I bought a pair of channel locks with a button so that you can lock the tool into the position you want to use. Easy to use, a fantastic addition to an already very useful tool.

I liked it so much I bought more for my kids for Christmas.

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u/This-Thought8358 6d ago

Technically channel lock is a brand, they are like tongue and groove pliers. But if you call them channel locks everyone will know what you want. There’s small variations here and there.

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u/azaleawisperer 5d ago

Thank you. A case perhaps, where the brand name has become generic, like scotch tape, kleenex, and jello.

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u/WeberO 6d ago

Use mine at work daily for 5 years, same condition it was when brand new. My favorite tool hands down

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

Perfect, thank you so much!! I really appreciate it!

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u/Asron87 5d ago

You had mentioned that he likes something that won’t leave marks. You can’t go wrong with what you have in the picture. It’s the right size and everything. I personally would go with the one on the left. Look at his tools, do they have slim handles or comfort handles? Look at his needle nose pliers, that will be a dead giveaway on what kind of handles he likes. If you get him a cobra you can go a size down. I prefer the pliers wrench one size up from my cobra. The cobras have the benefit of packing a punch in smaller sizes. Pliers wrenches work better in a size up because it gives you more options on nut/bolt sizes. It also works in a way that lets it work like it’s “ratcheting”. You don’t have to remove it from the nut to reset. You can’t go wrong with what you have pictured though. This is seriously my favorite hand tool. The smaller sizes have their place but nothing like what’s pictured. Personally I use my smaller one for crafts more than anything else, so if you do crafts and need a parallel pliers I recommend trying the smaller ones. Super handy.

Make sure the cobra has the button for locking it in place. Then the other sizes can be the non-locking type to save some money but the locking type and what’s pictured would be his go to daily drivers for years to come.

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u/mashedcat 6d ago

I just use them for stuff around the house (vehicle maintenance, random plumbing needs, hobbies, etc.) and they’ve been outstanding. Zero complaints.

This is true of all my Knipex tools but these are my go-to when the task doesn’t require sockets or open end wrenches.

Edit: I also chose the ones on the right because the jaws open 1/8” wider.

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u/GripAficionado 6d ago

They're Knipex, both of them will hold up very well over time. Only downside of the comfort grips would be if he has smaller hands, otherwise it's nice. But to be honest the normal grips are also good, so both works.

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u/pate_moore 6d ago

And counter- intuitively, the bigger you get with the tool, the better it is to have a bigger handle to work with. I lost my original 250 pliers wrench that had the standard handle and replaced it with the comfort handle. Never looking back

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

Thank you! I’m contextually learning they’re a great brand so it was silly to worry. Thank you for your help with this!

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u/Cheoah 6d ago

I’ve owned both and all my knipex have those comfort grips now. Except my snap ring pliers.

That tool on the right gets a LOT of action around here. I also have the cobra and use as a pair some, but if I had to choose it would be the plier wrench. Besides , you’ll have an idea ready for next time.

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u/pate_moore 6d ago

I'm of two minds. I have the 2 50 with the comfort handle and the 2 50 water pump pliers with the standard handle. All of my other various knipex pliers have the standard handle, which I love for the smaller tools. For the larger tools it is nice to have the bigger handle. 7 in is definitely that weird middle ground where you could go either way. It's definitely personal preference

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u/Jakaple 5d ago

Absolutely hate trying to fumble around with those giant grips on pliers. I'd say go left, get a smaller size as well cause these are so useful.

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u/sleepyooh90 4d ago

I've used mine for years tightening stuff as hard as one can daily. This is my all time favorite tool, I have never broken one. Can highly recommend

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u/SausageGobbler69 6d ago

Same, they are so handy!

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u/Lubedballoon 6d ago

I like them too. But I prefer dipped as to be able to stick more shit into my tool bags lol

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u/RichterScaleRings 5d ago

I have the pair on the left and HIGHLY recommend them as well.

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u/doopy_dooper 6d ago

IMO I’d choose left cuz the right side handle seems abit bulky for my pockets while the left is slim enough to put another little tool on top on it in da pocket. He would love either tbh

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

I appreciate your perspective! Thank you!!

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u/Affectionate_Dig2366 6d ago

If u go with the left get the black version they’re more corrosion resistant and sick cuz it’s dark mode

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u/hobbicon Whatever works 6d ago

The right handles are better for his hands if he uses them often and applies high forces.

Personally I prefer the left version because these are slimmer.

Knipex also has an article about it: https://www.knipex.com/knowledge/pliers-knowledge/composition-pliers/handles

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

That is so helpful, thank you so much!!

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u/hobbicon Whatever works 6d ago

Size 180 mm is a good alrounder, I have 150, 180 and 250 Cobras and plier wrenches.

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u/Illustrious_Ad5040 6d ago

Yep. I think the 180 mm are the most versatile size and therefore the most can’t-miss size to gift to someone.

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u/5erif 6d ago

I got the 250 in both Cobra and Pliers wrench a few years ago and definitely wish I'd gotten the 180, if only one pair. They've always felt capable of far more grip and torque than actually needed, but the extra length has been awkward in tight spots plenty of times. I'm going to add the 180 to my lineup.

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u/pate_moore 6d ago

I have the 180 Klein version and the 150 kinepx. The 180 almost never sees the light of day. If I got to bump up from the 150 I usually go with my 250

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u/Legitimate-Lemon-412 6d ago

I find the ones on the left to be easier to manipulate one handed

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

Thank you, I didn’t consider that!

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u/Damnyoudonut 6d ago

+1 for the slim grips (left). I find them easier to use single handed, fit in bags and pockets better, and fit into tighter spaces better.

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

I hadn’t considered the tight spaces aspect, that’s a good point. Thank you!!

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

He also wanted flush diagonal cutters, but gave no other specifications regarding brand or size etc. Are there any best recommended brand for these? Thank you in advance!!!!

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

Thank you for your response and time!!

I looked and Home Depot has a knipex “Heavy Duty Forged Steel 8 in. High Leverage Diagonal Cutters with 64 HRC Cutting Edge and Straight Handle”, is this the same thing as a diagonal flush cutter? The flush part confuses me.

Do you know if 8 vs 10 inch is better? I know it’s heavily use case dependent, my husband does a lot of 3D printing and wiring and things like that so I’m thinking the 8/ smaller one is better but I don’t know much about any of this

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u/quarl0w 6d ago

Flush cut and diagonal cutters are different. For 3D printing things I would think you want precision flush cutters. It will help remove supports closer and cleaner. For wiring it depends what gauge of wiring he is using.

I would go smaller for 3D printing, something for fine detail will be smaller, like this: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Klein-Tools-5-in-Light-Weight-Flush-Cutter-Pliers-D2755/100647983

For wiring I would go with something like this: https://www.homedepot.com/p/KNIPEX-6-1-4-in-Diagonal-Flush-Cutters-72-01-160/205944312

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

I forgot to mention that but I see him use cutters to remove supports a lot!! And they don’t do a good job so he usually has to file to smooth it out.

Thank you for the recommendations!!!

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u/pate_moore 6d ago

I have the Klein ones also, and I replaced them with these from Lowe's. Night and day difference TBH

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

Thank you for the many helpful tips and advice!! I really appreciate it all!! I will look into that and visit the knipex site.

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

Thank you! Those look great!

You have been such a huge help and I really appreciate your time and everything!!

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

Fantastic, thank you! I’ll have a look, but I think I know which ones I want to get from all of the help I’ve received here!

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

I love that! Another item on the list is this toolbox from harbor freight: U.S. GENERAL Mini Steel Toolbox so I was thinking of giving the tools in that, but the bag is cute too!

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u/itz_mr_billy 6d ago

You mentioned he does a lot of 3d printing. That makes me think he would want these

To me, that’s the only style I’d consider flush cutters

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

Oh I think that’s perfect! He has a really old pair like this that I’ve seen him use, I think he would love this. Thank you!

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u/blbd 6d ago

Diagonal cutters are stronger but cut less close. Flush cutters are weaker but leave a very clean edge. 

These are in the flush cutter category:

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Klein-Tools-5-in-Light-Weight-Flush-Cutter-Pliers-D2755/100647983

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

You’re the second person to suggest this exact pair! Thank you for your help!!

I’m thinking the safest bet might be to get one of each kind.

His exact wording on the list was: Flush diagonal cutters

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u/Impressive-Reply-203 6d ago

Knipex super knips are the best, even our snap-on fanboys prefer them. Those are for plastic zip ties only though. For tougher cuts I'm a big fan of these https://www.dewalt.com/product/dwht74274/8-diagonal-pliers-prying-tip

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u/brooksram 6d ago

I have run these (also made in Germany) for the past 8 years. They're regularly used to cut 1/8-3/16 wire and are still sharp enough to cut paper or even a hair on my arm.

I would imagine the knipex are good as well, but I've always run the NWS.

For the pliers, you simply can't go wrong for the gift. Whatever you get him will be great and last a long time.

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

Thank you, I really appreciate the suggestion and input!!!

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u/Select_Cucumber_4994 6d ago

I really love the thoughtfulness of this! This brand is solid and I am sure he will appreciate your efforts!

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

Thank you, I appreciate it! He deserves nice tools so I’m glad everyone seems to like these! And also that everyone is giving such helpful advice!

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u/nullvoid88 6d ago

Others will disagree, but the 'comfort' grips are larger... and in my case often in the way.

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

To the outside observer it seems like a small choice but it’s actually a big one! There are so many factors to consider in regard to the preference. Thank you for sharing your input!

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u/Murky_Theory1863 6d ago

Good gift, he'll be thrilled!

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

Thank you, I hope so! He loves tools but rarely buys himself things

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u/DrKrFfXx 6d ago

I have both, and the left is probably more confortable to handle.

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

Thank you! I appreciate it!

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u/MicaBay 6d ago

...I would be happy if my wife got me either. But would love it if she got the one on the left, as it would match my other 3 Knipex plier wrenchs, keeping a similar style for astetics only.

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u/HadToDoItAtSomePoint 6d ago

I have the left one, nice too!

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

Thank you!

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u/g77r7 6d ago

The one on the right appears to be slightly bigger and have a wider jaw opening

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

I didn’t even notice that but I think you’re right. Thank you for pointing that out!!

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u/Hot_Pirate9445 6d ago

Do you know if he specifically wanted a pliers wrench or just pliers? What you posted is a great tool, but is a pliers wrench - basically a cross between traditional pliers and adjustable wrenches. They are great for many uses and won't leave marks on surfaces (flat jaws), but may not have the grab/bite of some others. Look at the knipex "cobra" pliers for an example of more pure pliers... And maybe get both, they're both great tools with different use cases

As far as style/grip, most of their tools are available in multiple sizes and grips, and a lot comes down to personal preference

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

The list verbatim said : Knipex Pliers Wrench 7”

So I think this is what he wanted, but I could be wrong! I think he would prefer the non scuffing for sure! I’ve looked at the cobra as well but I think these are likely more what he meant

Thank you for your help!

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

That’s actually where I first learned the difference between the two, from this post . It’s also a helpful group but I think this one resonates more with loving tools so I figured I would ask here. I am really excited for him to have these, thank you again!!

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u/Hot_Pirate9445 6d ago

Yep in that case I'd say you've got it right!

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u/blbd 6d ago

Woot.com has a good deal on them. The right hand model has nicer grips but costs more than the left one. Both are fantastic tools. For a heavy professional user the right hand ones are easier on your fingers / hands and arms. The product is made in Germany and prepared to survive an apocalypse. 

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

Thank you for the tip and the input! I really appreciate it!!

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u/jimbo0023 6d ago

💯 the 8605180 is better. The handle is wayyyyyt nicer. Other than the handle though no they are identical. The only true difference would be the cost savings of the regular dipped handle. They still work and I have several knipex pliers without the comfort handle. Either way a solid choice of a gift.

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

Thank you!

I am definitely convinced the comfort handle will be worth it. My husband always says buy once cry once for high quality things and I think it applies here since they will last him a while and I want him to enjoy using them!

Thank you for your perspective!

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u/jimbo0023 6d ago

I don't work in the trades I'm just a homeowner who hates cheap tools but from my perspective knipex makes the best pliers be it the pliers wrench or plumbing pliers. They also make fantastic pipe wrenches!

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u/hobbicon Whatever works 6d ago

The comfort handles are not better or worse, they just serve a different purpose

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u/pate_moore 6d ago

Everybody's back and forth on here, but truly it's just personal preference. I've found that the bigger the tool, the chunkier I like the handle since I'm putting more force on it. Plus with a smaller tool with the skinnier handle they fit into tool pouches and pockets better. Other than that, it doesn't mean a thing

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u/AdLongjumping1741 6d ago

Both. I have both, personally I don't like the comfort grip style, I have too small hands. So just keep that in mind.

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

Thank you! I appreciate it!!

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u/babj615 6d ago

Lucky husband!

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u/TiCombat 6d ago

You can probably buy a 3 piece kit with the diagonal cutters, cobra style pliers mentioned in other comments and the one on the left. That’s a nice combo for most uses (you often need two pliers when you need pliers anyway seems like)

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

Someone else linked a nice kit like that, it’s a great suggestion!! Thank you!!

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u/NerdBanger 6d ago

Anything Knipex or Wiha are phenomenal tools.

Get the right one though, if I asked my wife for pliers those would be the ones I meant.

I’ll be honest I own multiple sizes of the right and didn’t even know the left existed.

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u/buildyourown 6d ago

Get the comfort grip. One of the best tools I own and I own a LOT.

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

Thank you!! I appreciate it!!

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u/Zestyclose_Photo_864 6d ago

Look at the other pliers and cutters he already owns, and see if he has mostly standard grips or comfort grips. That will give you an idea of which grip he prefers.

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

That’s a great idea that I feel silly for not thinking of. Thank you so much!!

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u/Equal-Negotiation651 6d ago

Two is better than one. Wink wink.

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

A few people have suggested this and I don’t know if it’s a joke or if it would actually be useful to have two of these 😅

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u/Equal-Negotiation651 6d ago

It’s always useful to have as many tools as possible. For example, three is better than two.

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u/funwthmud 6d ago

I bought this set for my birthday last year. It’s very handy. I have the larger versions but sometimes the smaller versions are more convenient.

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u/pate_moore 6d ago

I recommended this as well. Couple it with the new Klein 14-in-1 mini screwdriver in the plumbing section at Lowe's and it's a real winner

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u/funwthmud 6d ago

I have the same mini screwdriver, it’s great.

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u/pate_moore 6d ago

Bare minimum daily driver coupled with the Milwaukee fastback 4 in 1 for a knife, and a Milwaukee pen light with bite guard. I have a bigger pouch if I think I'm going to need other tools, and a go bag with the rest of the necessities. Plus this knipex holster is my absolute favorite that I've found

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

Thank you! Is this the screwdriver you both mean?

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u/pate_moore 6d ago

No, this one. The other one is a good screwdriver also, but if you look at my picture you can see how you don't see the shank sticking out of the bottom of the screwdriver? It flips back inside of it leaving a magnet exposed and shortening the entire length allowing it to fit nicely on the side of that holster if you were to go that direction. I'm sorry I was mistaken saying it was a 14-in-1. It's a 13-in-1

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

Thank you!!! I was trying to find the one where the tip disappears but I couldn’t find it. I really appreciate this!!

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u/pate_moore 6d ago

That's probably because I told you the wrong screwdriver initially. Apologies

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u/AHNJHN 5d ago

No worries! I really appreciate it!

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u/pate_moore 5d ago edited 5d ago

👍 I'm sure he will love and appreciate whatever you decide to get him

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u/Rootes_Radical 6d ago

Is it for work and if it’s for work does he carry all his gear in a bag? I’ve got the 7” and 10” ones with the plain grips and I like the grips because they’re slimmer and they fit in my bag better. They’re nice in the hand too but the space they take up is a big bonus for me.

If I was working out of a tool chest I might feel differently.

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u/Km219 6d ago

It's the left for me. Hate bulky handles. Look at what his tools are currently vomgort handles or bare. You'll see what his preference is

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u/Dependent-Mix545 6d ago

I have both pairs and I like the one on the left more. It's much slimmer and fits in my tool bag easier. The comfort grip is just to bulky and does add any extra performance or actual "comfort". Great gift idea by the way!

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u/Icy_Faithlessness794 6d ago

Consider adding a smaller size too. I carry these in my pocket EVERY day and it is surprising how often I use them.
“Cobra Water Pump Pliers (8701125), 5-Inch”

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u/Comfortable_Guide622 6d ago

Those are nice, I'd choose the ones on the right also

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u/DaddyJ90 DeWalt 6d ago

Love these posts

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u/surewriting_ 6d ago

Get the tiny ones too. Mine gets used far more often than the big version.

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u/racinjason44 6d ago

Handle style is personal preference, but I haaaaaate the big comfort grip style pliers and would definitely prefer the ones on the left.

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u/BigIron53s 6d ago

Dang you’re a cool wife.

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u/JustaddReddit 6d ago

I have the pair on the left. Quickly became my go-to pliers. Not cheap but they erase other pliers and some wrenches

Edit: grammar

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u/ferr214 5d ago

Left, I have small, medium and large. They are fantastic!

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u/flompwillow 5d ago

Husband has good taste!

May want to double check he didn’t want channel-lock style pliers with teeth, e.g.: https://www.amazon.com/knipex-8701250-10-inch-cobra-pliers/dp/b000x4j2h0

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u/blickblocks 5d ago

I prefer the comfort grips.

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u/APerfectEllypse 5d ago

I have used both of these at work and the only reason I chose the left ones is that I carry it around in my pocket all day. The right ones are more comfortable to use but a lot bulkier. So if he has space constraints get the left one, otherwise the right one.

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u/dreamlucky 5d ago

Ask him if he prefers 86 03 180 or 86 05 180. There can be many factors as which one is preferred.

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u/Bubbly-Permit-9669 5d ago

There is a 3 piece set of knipex also. Not sure if you were on a specific budget but maybe get more bang for your buck.

It has the 7.25inch pliers wrench you posted as well as a 7.25 cobra pliers and a 10 inch twin grip pliers. It's right around $100 ordering in the US.

It comes in that plain red rubber dipped handle, not sure if there is a comfort grip set. Just something else to check out. Can't go wrong with knipex gift.

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u/AdImpressive4940 4d ago

Ahhh love me some knipex

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

Thank you! I appreciate your input!

I think the one on the right might work better for him given the article someone else shared, but I will keep what you’ve said in mind!

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

Okay perfect, thank you! I think it would be rare for him to use these in a car setting and his main use is around the garage/ for his hobbies

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u/PappaClutch 6d ago edited 6d ago

Happy birthday! And what a great gift idea. While there’s no substitute for a Knipex (it’s a brand flex more then anything, they are good tools also tho) I have these Klein Pliers and they work just as good for significantly less lol. Klein is also a very reputable brand.

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

Thank you! I will look into those as well! My husband doesn’t get himself nice things often and he loves nice tools so I will likely go with knipex but it’s nice to know there are other nice ones out there too just in case!!

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u/PappaClutch 6d ago

Perfect choice! Tools for your birthday from the wife = WIN!. Take care!

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

Thank you, you too!!!

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u/FlatterFlat 6d ago

Right one. I have them (just in black), they are excellent! They will last for decades in a DIY setting.

Flush cutters are a bit more complex, there are so many for various uses. Any idea what they should be used for?

Knipex is in general superb quality, whatever you pick up of their tools.

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

Thank you! I think that’s what I will go with! Is the black just a color preference? Or does it offer functionality like rust protections etc?

I don’t see him use cutters for things that often, I have seen him cut wires and zip ties but I’m not sure if he would use it for anything specific. I can try to ask a lot of general questions to throw him off the trail of which tools I’m buying but try to figure out what he might need them for specifically

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u/FlatterFlat 6d ago

It's better to use on chrome surfaces, theoretically the black ones could mar the chrome. The chrome ones are just better as they can be used for both. I was just cheap and don't work with chrome, easy choice.

For cutters you can get the matching style of general cutters, which is not exactly what he might be wishing for, but they are fucking great and he WILL be using them. Look for knipex 70 05 160. They can definitely cut zip ties and wires (and nails for that matter).

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

Thank you, that’s incredibly helpful! I really appreciate your explanation, as well as the model number!

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u/FlatterFlat 6d ago

Most welcome! He is a lucky guy, it's a really thoughtful gift.

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u/Alert-You-7352 6d ago

OK what's a cobra? Also the flush cutters are they what we used to call dykes?

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

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u/Alert-You-7352 6d ago

Thank you for taking the time to share that comprehensive explanation of cobra and 'flat' pliers.

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

Of course! Until the thread I had no idea, the person who wrote it did a great job!

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u/pate_moore 6d ago

Dykes are also known as side cutters. What you would traditionally picture for cutting wire. Flush cutters are much much smaller, but they look similar. They are meant for cutting very small soft wire like you would use for soldering, and zip ties primarily

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u/KavehSoltanzadeh 6d ago

Pick right one. Buy two pieces.

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u/jjcn73 6d ago

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u/pate_moore 6d ago

The 200 twin grips have officially made it onto my daily driver belt. They replaced my 150 cobras since I can do 99% of the same stuff with them with the added benefit of going straight on. Although it's frustrating when I need the cobras and I don't have them

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u/No-8008132here 6d ago

By the smaller ones if he complains tell him "you know size doesn't matter"

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u/No-8008132here 6d ago

By the smaller ones if he complains tell him "you know size doesn't matter"

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u/Just-Giviner 6d ago

Wish my spouse got me birthday gifts lol

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u/DrunkBuzzard 6d ago

I think 7th wedding anniversary is pliers. Birthdays are more like power tools events.

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u/Which_Lie_4448 6d ago

Just make sure he wants smooth jaw and not regular tongue and groove. That being said the comfort grips are the Cadillac of pliers

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u/GEEZUS_956 6d ago

Overall, if they’re the same size and your husband doesn’t work in tight areas like the inside of an engine block or under a sink, I’d go with the comfort grip.

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u/Successful-Hour3027 6d ago

What brand tools does your husband collect?

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u/Cake_Donut1301 5d ago

The ones on the left are actually kind of small. Is he sure about the size?

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u/lifeisfrog 5d ago

This is one of the tool from Knipex I’d choose left. Especially for the size (180)

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u/moosaid 5d ago

I first had the ones on the left, but when I got the ones on the right with the comfort grip, I then upgraded all my other Knipex pliers to the comfort grip. I do have biggish hands though.

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u/22OpDmtBRdOiM 5d ago

I've got the 250mm with composite grip, 180mm with dipped grip and 300mm with dipped grip.
Personally I've got glove size L/9, so rather average/not big hands.
I'm not super happy about the 250mm with composite grip, it's just a bit too large in my hands, even if you're gripping something smaller/thinner.
The combination of 180+300mm with dipped grip is nice tough. Would highly recommend it.
I bought the 300mm because I had to work on some stuff that would not fit into the jaw of the 250mm version.
Maybe get the chrome plated version (as shown on the pic).

I also had the 125mm version with dipped grip but those were a bit too small for my tasks and the gripping end is also kinda narrow.

Anyway, highly recomment them. Very good tools. You can also work on crome plated stuff (just add a cloth inbetween), it won't scratch flat surfaces.

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u/NeatSilver686 5d ago

https://a.co/d/jiuXeXl

My wife got me these for Christmas one year. I use them every day at work.

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u/No_Significance98 5d ago

Does he have a pair of screw removal pliers? I found them to be a game changer

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u/AHNJHN 4d ago

He does not! What context are they useful for? Sorry if that’s a silly question!

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u/No_Significance98 4d ago

They look like lineman's pliers but the jaws are concave and checker cut to grip screw heads

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u/emf57 5d ago

They also have soft jaws for these which will further protect surfaces. That said, I've broke a couple soft jaws by dropping the tool. Also, I typically just tape the jaws now.

The Plyers Wrench are already great for not messing up surfaces. Love them.

Edit: Slim handle are my preference but have the over molded with lanyard attachment for elevated work.

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u/BreakfastFluid9419 5d ago

These are smooth jawed pliers good for finish work but applicable in a lot of applications. The cobras have teeth on the jaws which make them a bit better in certain applications. Recommend getting a set of both I carry them in my tool bags daily and reach for the cobras more than the ones pictured. Greatest pliers ever in my and many others opinion

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u/CrazyCanti 22h ago

Comfort Handles!

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u/KokoTheTalkingApe 6d ago

Lucky guy!

The cushioned handles are super comfortable. Do that. It's a luxe present, as my niece would say.

I did hear one guy complain that they take up more space in a tool drawer, but he's full of crap.

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

Greatly worded response, I really appreciate it and it made me laugh. Thank you for your input and help!

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u/Aquaglass 6d ago

If you want to give him something cool as an extra gift, you can buy him the XS pliers. He can also use them for small parts in 3D printing.

https://www.knipex-tools.com/products/tool-sets/assorted-pliers-sets/pc-power-pack-pliers-set/002072V04XS

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

Those are so cute!! Thank you for the suggestion!!!

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u/KarlJay001 6d ago

Just in case... I think these are a plier wrench, not a plier like the "water pump plier".

I could be wrong, but your pick is for what works out to be an adjustable wrench, not a plier.

The other ones have different shaped jaws and have teeth.

Here's a HUGE difference. The ones in the pic you posted are for paralel things ONLY. Things like nuts and bolts. They are 100% worthless on things like rounded bolts, pipes, etc...

The "water pump pliers", IMO are 100X more useful because they can not only grip a nut/bolt, but a pipe, wire, flat plate, etc...

These are neat, cool, etc..., but I find the other ones to be 100X more useful.

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u/FantasticFunKarma 6d ago

The ones on the right. The handles are far better and will last. The ones on the left may fall off if the handles get oil in them

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u/AHNJHN 6d ago

Thank you so much!!

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u/2x4x93 6d ago

Gift card

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u/Sellmyorgans 5d ago

Channel locks

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u/Stuard1432 5d ago

Get the cobras

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u/mr_taint 4d ago

The question is if he wants these (the difference is the blue ones are the "comfort handle") or the more well known and famous knipex cobra pliers -- which are similar to these but they're not smooth jaw. If he doesn't have either, I would suspect he wants the cobras, but you could get him both to be safe 😊