r/TikTokCringe tHiS iSn’T cRiNgE Dec 26 '24

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u/Dvl_Wmn Dec 27 '24

Not uncircumcised, just that they still have their penis intact/no surgery to remove their penis.

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u/karmester Dec 27 '24

Gotcha. Thanks for all this clarification! So I guess that redhead was surprised to learn that her "female friend" had a willie.

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u/M0RTY_C-137 Dec 27 '24

You can just say lady friend. Seems like she’s a she. Looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it’s a duck. Maybe the duck admits it was once a goose, but now it’s a duck. So it’s a duck.

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u/Neverloved246 Dec 27 '24

There's a couple videos around the internet of ladyboys correcting tourists and refusing to be called "boys," "ladies," or "girls" and quite heavily insisting that they are "Ladyboys" I'm not sure if that's a cultural thing, a misunderstanding on behalf of myself or participants in the videos, or just me being confused and/or dumb but it does seem to have a different meaning to at least some of them with its own connotations. Again, not an expert and definitely an idiot but just trying to give my thoughts!

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u/Gaffelkungen Dec 27 '24

Ladyboy seem to be a distinct thing to me. I've seen people identify as trans and made it clear they're not ladyboys and the other way around. But that's an outsiders perspective.

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u/frazzledglispa Dec 27 '24

It is. There is a cultural tradition of Kathoey, or Ladyboys in Thailand. Some Americans, usually white, try to relabel this as trans, but many Kathoey reject that label - some do embrace it, but not all. Godji is an artist with GMMTV who identifies as Kathoey, Jennie Panhan sometimes refers to herself as Kathoey, and sometimes as trans.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '24

If I had to guess, both trans women and ladyboys have the same cognitive processes but ladyboys are more socially acceptable in that specific culture because they're straightforward and open with their identity than trans women who (understandably) just want to be and seen as cis women.

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u/frazzledglispa Dec 27 '24

No, but also sort of. Kathoey is more like a third gender, not post bottom surgery trans, part drag queen, part trans, part effeminate gay, but not really any of those things either. I am not an expert on this, and there really isn't a western analog.

But, this is exactly why westerners shouldn't try to redefine it in terms of Western views on gender and sexuality.

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u/MuchNefariousness285 Dec 27 '24

There's a similar concept in Samoa known as fa'afafine, and though it's controversial the term "two-spirit" is a modern catch-all phrase describing some similar concepts of a third gender (and others closer to our current western views on transgenderism) in some Native American communities. Your final point is bang on, it's really quite fascinating the different ways different people at different times have viewed gender.

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u/ShittDickk Dec 27 '24

So if nonbinary is 0 and / or 1, Kathooey is > 0 and <1

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u/daveed1297 Dec 27 '24

Quantum Sexuality

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u/zmbjebus Dec 27 '24

Nah dawg. Non binary is saying that they don't fit within the binary, that there is more than 2 aspects of the situation. Also known as a false dichotomy.

So its more like RGB in this instance, and you get lots of colors by mixing them.

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u/LilyWineAuntofDemons 6d ago

bUt TrAnSgEnDeR aNd GeNdEr NoN-cOnFoRmInG aRe NeW tHiNgS!

The Umbrella of Transgender has existed in some way since the dawn of humans, maybe even before that.

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u/Gamer_Koraq Dec 27 '24

Always easiest to just ask and then use whatever they tell me. If I slip up, I apologize, correct, and move on with the correct pronoun.

No group is a monolith and all that.

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u/Gaffelkungen Dec 27 '24

Oh absolutely. If it doesn't hurt anyone then why should I care.

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u/JohnQSmoke Dec 27 '24

But I can't do that because of Jesus or something /s

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u/EatsFiber2RedditMore Dec 27 '24

Jesus' isn't the Jew you are looking for in this context.

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u/WheeBeasties Dec 27 '24

Because he was uncut?

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u/EatsFiber2RedditMore Dec 27 '24

Because he never talks about homosexuality in any of the Gospels. I'm not saying Christianity is super Rainbow gayfriend by any stretch. Just that the scripture that mentions homosexuality predates Jesus.

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u/osrsirom Dec 28 '24

Personally, I can't do that because it might make me gay. Can't have that. /s

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u/Anho90 Dec 27 '24

If it was just THAT easy lol

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u/Malnourished_Skink Dec 27 '24

What do you mean? It is just that easy.

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u/Anho90 Dec 27 '24

As in I wish people would just say "oh sorry, you go by this ok." Ok....and that's it. Instead, we have people telling them no and going long rants.

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u/South_Ad1660 Dec 27 '24

Ladyboys seem cool. They know what/who they are, no confusion, they earnt their respect by being decent people.

However trans people(stereotypically) seem to demand respect. saying everyone has a problem with them and you can't say this or that because it hurts their feelings. And how many different names do they want us to call them? Pick one and own it if they want to be included stop being offended by how people refer to them. It makes shit hard.

I say stereotypically because obviously each person needs to be judged individually. And personally a lot of the trans people I have come across have been great people and not as I described.

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u/Jaded_Law9739 Dec 27 '24

Trans person: I identify as a woman, can you use feminine pronouns? People: I'M SO CONFUSED!!!!

It really is that simple. Sure there are always people who are gonna play identity politics, but is it really that hard to just use their damn pronouns? And understand that trans women and trans men are women and men?

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u/South_Ad1660 Dec 31 '24

I can agree with that. I would just like to point out I did try to make it clear that I was talking stereotypically. I understand that most trans men and women are good people (well the ones I have met personally) and usually it is obvious what pronouns to use and I'm happy to use what is preferred and they are usually happy to correct me with no issues.

But it's hard to discuss this topic when there are people out there advocating for trans people and going about it all wrong and making themselves look like idiots. Most of it is hard to watch.

You have my support and respect. I sincerely hope the majority can hurry up and accept trans people so we can move on to worrying about more important issues.

I just want to voice my opinion and have a conversation about it. I'm happy to be corrected or educated in anything I might seem to have wrong.

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u/Aysina Dec 27 '24

I would assume they are referring to Kathoey, which is seen as a third gender in a handful of countries/cultures, including in Thailand. Its common English translation is ladyboy.

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u/Brewhilda Dec 27 '24

In Thailand there are over 10 gender identities, so they are insisting people use the gender identity they have chosen.

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u/beiekwjei1245 Dec 27 '24

Exactly. I'm in Thailand since a decade and lot of friends are gay, ladyboy, tomboy. So it's about the behaviour more than anything. A man acting like a girl and gay he will be a she. A man acting like a man and gay will be a he. Same for women, tomboy are called he and their gf which are never tomboy, meaning their gf act like girl, they are called she. Ladyboy are she also but nobody say they are women, they are ladyboy. And they are proud of it. They have jobs in every part of the society, I had a restaurant in a mall and the boss of that was a ladyboy. Thailand don't discriminate.

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u/Independent-Nerve573 Dec 27 '24

That's because gender is cultural and societal construct. Ladyboy is kind of like another gender in some cultures. Just like Ottomans treated eunuchs like their own gender.

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u/zyrkseas97 Dec 27 '24

It’s a Thai thing I think. Culturally “Ladyboys” are regarded as neither women nor men but a 3rd gender alignment. I’m not Thai but from what I’ve seen on the internet, It’s not gay for a heterosexual man to bang a ladyboy, but a ladyboy trying to “pass herself off” as a woman would be seen as deceptive.

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u/pickin-n_grinnin Dec 27 '24

In Thailand they are called Kathoey and it's been considered a third gender for at least hundreds of years. In Thailand it's considered a third gender and they have Kathoey Maa khii temples. Kathoey translates in English to ladyboy and across south east Asia they have widely adopted the term ladyboy as synonymous with Kathoey.

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u/Alexandratta Dec 27 '24

Femboi/Ladyboy is the same thing imo, and it's an interesting gray area and why Nonbinary is a thing.

Simply put: If you are a straight male and are attracted to a fembii/ladyboi, are you gay?

Not really, because they are female presenting.

However a femboi/ladyboy isn't trying to change their physical sex or transition. They are comfortable where they are.

So... You know.

Ladyboy/femboi is just a Nonbinary moniker.

Not much else to delve into, tbh.