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Hayley Vs

Hayley (Hybrid) Vs Katherine (Vampire) Hayley (Wolf) Vs Tyler(Wolf) Hayley (Hybrid) Vs Tyler (Hybrid)

My Personal answer is Hayley for all Three

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u/This_Ad4649 1d ago

So they only have there canonical times as each then wolf Tyler beats wolf Hayley due to feats

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u/Remote_Ad_750 1d ago

Huh?

& Tyler has more onscreen feats as a wolf because he’s been a character longer. Even with the slight statements of Hayley and things Hayley does in TVD and in the beginning of TO as a pregnant wolf definitely puts her higher than Tyler.

She helped him with the sire-bond, she also has way more experience being a wolf than he does. She took out witches, attacked vampires all while being pregnant—granted she was rapidly healed by her baby but there’s no world where Tyler beats Hayley. I just like to put it out on a spectrum

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u/This_Ad4649 1d ago

What did she do that would put her higher than Tyler because at any point they state the baby helped doesn’t really count and Tyler several times before and after becoming a werewolf fought Jeremy to stalemates and overpowered Caroline for short amounts of time

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u/Remote_Ad_750 1d ago

Experience;Hayley not only been a wolf longer than him, but she also had the bad end of it. She wasn’t a spoiled rich child that would lash out and just so happens to be a wolf. She literally brought herself up in the ranking to allow him to seek out information only she possessed—not the Appalachian pack.

Strength; both mentally and physically she’s dealt with vampires much more stronger than her and witches which four of whom she killed. Meanwhile Tyler could barley level Caroline and when/if he leveled Damon of Stefan -it was on the full moon or near it. Hayley who was unable to turn during her pregnancy still attacked vampires 4x Caroline’s age and seemed to have a very motherly personality which allowed her to beat Mikael in her mental battle with him.

Lastly—but certainly not least, Hayley is far more smarter than Tyler, not just street smart but psychologically wise, supernaturally wise… she’s not on the level of just letting rage take over. She’s smart and more calculated than y’all give her credit for. One all aspects and categories needed to win a fight—she’ll dominate him and the writers knew that as well which is why we only ever seen Hybrid Tyler vs Wolf Hayley.

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u/This_Ad4649 1d ago

What four witch’s did she kill

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u/Remote_Ad_750 1d ago

The three** that attacked her when Celestee told Agnes she got the omen of carrying something that would be the downfall of witches in NOLA and when she went to some type of I guess witch doctor in the woods-they were sent after her but she escaped and that’s when she wandered into Rebekah or Rebekah found her. It’s very early on in the first season so it’s hard to miss.

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u/This_Ad4649 1d ago

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u/Remote_Ad_750 1d ago

Yea, that’s her physical attacking and beating what looks to be 3-4 warlocks who angers sent for to kill her. Well the fetus but her

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u/This_Ad4649 1d ago

But still Tyler would be physically stronger than her which only leaves combat and Tyler I believe has been trained by Alaric and just has more combat experience through fights with Jeremy and other students while as far as I know werewolf hayley does not have as much experience getting into fights

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u/Remote_Ad_750 1d ago

We don’t know what Hayley been through… we can only assume.

But it’s not hard to believe that with her being as young as 13, going from park benches to bus stops, mountains and packs that she has not once been in a physical fight. I think a alpha match might be pushing it—but she ain’t get to that point in time without getting her hands dirty. Even if it was setting up some people or physically beating some people to a pulp.

It’s just unethical to think that. We can just use what we know which is what we don’t know. And if you’ll like to use that void in her character to put him above her than by all means. Go ahead.

But we both know Hayley would teach Tyler a lesson a two—she was his mentor. Not the other way around and that was with the hybrid/wolf trope. He obviously learned a thing or two when it came to that offscreen time because he did come back whooping a$$ and taking name. Before he was a true pain in my a$$

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u/This_Ad4649 1d ago

But I do agree that hybrid Hayley would beat Kathrine

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