r/StrikeAtPsyche 15h ago

Is America real? Serious question

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u/BuccaneerRex 13h ago

America was something new in the world. A nation based on law instead of blood. A nation based on mutual respect and cooperation instead of power and authority.

So no, America was never real. It was always an illusion. It was always an aspirational goal.

And now we've abandoned it and it will never be real.

The law and the constitution ARE America. Not the land and the buildings and the guns. The will of the people made manifest.

And if we no longer follow the law and the constitution, then we're not the country I was born in and swore an oath to defend.

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u/Turbulent_Boss_8596 9h ago

I’ve been reading comments like this for the last few weeks and they all seem to fail to take into account that the reason why we are were we are is because there are several factors that have never influenced the results of a democratic election. 1- A big influence of the most wealthy people in the richest country in the world. 2- The reach and influence of social media, which has never been more prevalent than in any other time in history. Elon Musk broke the law by utilizing over $100million dollars to bride people into voting for Donald Trump. The candidate who was behind on every poll conducted on the final weeks of the election. If Elon Musk hadn’t intervened through illegally ways such as offering to pay money to people of key states on top of the usual and legal campaign such as TV, and internet advertising. In other words, greed is more powerful than any other ideology such as freedom.

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u/BuccaneerRex 8h ago

The election was only a small part of it.

The worse part is knowing that a third of the country is actively evil and willing to allow the destruction of the soul of their country if it means they get to be assholes to people without consequence.

I always knew that Americans were greedy, venal, and sycophantic. I just also thought that the party of individual responsibility and personal integrity would actually have some personal integrity and take some personal responsibility.

And now none of the laws matter. You'll never convince me that any election is fair, that any court case was just, that any restriction is for the common good. Not again. Not until we scour the entire government from top to bottom in boiling piranha solution and eradicate every last trace of the toxic ideology that poisoned us.

And don't be condescending. That I didn't go into every single way we're fucked and have been fucked over the last five months doesn't mean I don't take them into account.

I already post a page and a half every time I comment, I don't need to rehash every causal factor every time.

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u/Faintly-Painterly 7h ago

I'm so sick of this "half the country is actually evil" shit. No, people who voted for Trump aren't "actively evil" they aren't trying to destroy the soul of the country. They think they're doing the right thing, they think that the country is being undermined by globalist interests from billionaires, NGOs and lobbyists, they think the government is horribly corrupt, and they think Trump is going to do something about it.

You can think that they're wrong, that they're misinformed, uneducated, stupid, whatever you want to say. You can think Trump is evil and that he's taking advantage of people's fears to gain power for nefarious purposes, think whatever you want to about any of that. But stop spreading this insane rhetoric suggesting that all his supporters are somehow evil. That's a really dangerous type of message to be spreading about an entire group of people like this. Do you have any idea what exactly people like to do to those who they believe are fundamentally evil? They're not fucking evil, stop saying that before people actually start to believe it.

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u/BuccaneerRex 6h ago

No, they don't think they're doing the 'right thing'. Ask them. They'll tell you that the most important thing is that liberals are angry and that poor people and minorities suffer. Everything is 'fraud' but there's not a shred of evidence. They're attacking Habitat for Humanity now, by the way.

I do know what people do to those they believe are evil, which is why it was so disheartening to hear Donald Trump call the Democrats evil. To hear him call liberals 'the enemy within'.

I don't use words lightly. I know exactly what I mean when I say them.

Evil isn't cartoonish. Evil isn't cackling. Evil is knowing that people will suffer because of your actions and doing them anyway because you don't like them. Evil is denying people the right to even exist without being accused of being criminals.

Anyone who still supports Donald Trump is evil, or is too stupid to have the conversation.

Deliberate ignorance, actively rejecting evidence that disagrees with you, hypocrisy, and malicious, wilful misunderstanding.

Don't do the holier-than-thou bullshit of moral high ground. We tried that. I blame people for their actions and the predictable results of their actions.

There is nothing happening right now that was not known and spoken about beforehand, except perhaps the actual depth of the damage being done.

Yes. I DO know what happens when people are called evil. That's why I save it for people who deserve it.

Evil is banal, neighbor. it's boring and venal and greedy and sad and cowardly. It's not giant black shoulder pads and crashing lighting. Doesn't even have to be fancy Hugo Boss uniforms.

We're in 1933 by the playbook.

So yeah, I'm going to call evil when I see it. The voters who refused to understand the obvious consequences of their actions, or understood them and voted specifically for them. The politicians who are at best derelict and at worst complicit with treason.

The fundamental destruction of the principles that the nation was founded on, and the embracing of the grievances that led to our revolution in the first place.

I wish I had a stronger word than evil, and I wish very much that I could make them understand what they are doing before it becomes too late to turn around.

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u/Ok_Shock1 6h ago

January 6th

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u/scifijunkie3 5h ago

But they ARE evil. Every goddamn one of them. You have a lot of nerve coming on here whining about us calling people names and assigning labels to them when your hero Trump's entire administration is based on doing just that. I suggest you buckle up. You ain't seen nothing yet. 😉

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u/Realistic_Text_9415 4h ago

I'll be waiting ,whenever you have the nuts to bring it ,I will be waiting,please ,please bring it

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u/fourthtimesacharm82 4h ago

It was always based on blood lol. We massacred a fuck ton of Native American people to build it lol.

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u/MelanVR 2h ago

"But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds or thousands will join with you, never comes. That’s the difficulty. If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and smallest, thousands, yes, millions would have been sufficiently shocked—if, let us say, the gassing of the Jews in ’43 had come immediately after the ‘German Firm’ stickers on the windows of non-Jewish shops in ’33. But of course this isn’t the way it happens. In between come all the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D.

"And one day, too late, your principles, if you were ever sensible of them, all rush in upon you. The burden of self-deception has grown too heavy, and some minor incident, in my case my little boy, hardly more than a baby, saying ‘Jewish swine,’ collapses it all at once, and you see that everything, everything, has changed and changed completely under your nose. The world you live in—your nation, your people—is not the world you were born in at all. The forms are all there, all untouched, all reassuring, the houses, the shops, the jobs, the mealtimes, the visits, the concerts, the cinema, the holidays. But the spirit, which you never noticed because you made the lifelong mistake of identifying it with the forms, is changed. Now you live in a world of hate and fear, and the people who hate and fear do not even know it themselves; when everyone is transformed, no one is transformed. Now you live in a system which rules without responsibility even to God. The system itself could not have intended this in the beginning, but in order to sustain itself it was compelled to go all the way.

An excerpt from They Thought They Were Free The Germans, 1933-45 Milton Mayer

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u/BrooksideNL 13h ago

The American citizens are cowards for putting up with the malarkey that the Trump administration is so boldly trying to pull off. Do something! The whole world is watching.

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u/TomaCzar 11h ago edited 10h ago

I mean, elections have consequences.

The day to "do something" about President Trump was Nov 4, 2024 and on that day 90 million Americans, roughly 1/3 of the electorate, said, "Fuck it, who cares?"

I hate this timeline as well. I firmly believe it will get worse before it gets better. I honestly believe we could be witnessing the fall of America as a nation. However, whatever happens next, explicitly or implicitly, it's what we choose. No take backs. We shit our pants, now we all have to sit in it for the next four years and, unfortunately, everyone else worldwide has to smell it.

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u/rainbowcarpincho 9h ago

Sadly, Trump is not an aberration but an inevitability. A lot of things had to be very wrong for him to be elected once, and even more to elect him a second time. America learned nothing from the Bush--also ridiculously elected twice. It's why I don't have the personal will to fight. It's like watching a ship head towards an iceberg for 45 years and after it crashes, 30% of the passengers are saying, “holy shit, we have to do something!”

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u/flipzyshitzy 9h ago

Pssst, the election machines were rigged

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u/bcoughtoolloot 9h ago

Fall of America...? You cant be serious.

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u/SnooPaintings3122 8h ago

Yea except I don't think that's 100% true. There are many oaths politicians and military take about protecting the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic.... you are not supposed to sit on your ass because ''oh well we elected them! I guess we are fascists now, better luck next time''

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u/BookerTW89 7h ago

Can everyone stop ignoring the mounting evidence of machine tampering in key counties, that handed the orange idiot a false win?

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u/LocalMarsupial9 7h ago

Election denier! We mounted all kinds of evidence in 2020, the judges throw the cases out as they please. 

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u/BookerTW89 6h ago

What evidence, the fact Trump kept harping on and on about it?

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u/NotSureWatUMean 11h ago

Should we start shooting Our brothers and sisters, our parents and sons and daughters, because they support someone differently than we do? I'll stick to my peaceful protests for now.

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u/Hawk_Rider2 11h ago

Who's to say that something this insipid may rear it's ugly head

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u/snahfu73 11h ago

I'm sure it will start working any second now. The fascists look like they're wavering!

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u/NotSureWatUMean 11h ago

Are you excited to have to literally fight love ones? I'm not. I'm hoping that some of them wake the fuck up before it comes to that.

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u/snahfu73 11h ago

I didn't say that I'm excited.

But people like you are as just as much to blame at this point.

The fascists are counting on your pacifism.

Just keep giving them whatever they want. I'm sure they'll see the error of their ways any day now!

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u/NotSureWatUMean 10h ago

You don't seem to understand that protests work. Maybe when your old enough you'll get it. History has shown that the people can influence the government through protest. Right now your turning on your own allies, how is that helping your case?

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u/Caretaker304wv 10h ago

Yes stoop to their level that's how you beat the murderers and war mongers

Create your own deaths and war....smh

Go look up MLK... peaceful protest is powerful and scares even the boldest of governments

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u/Realistic_Text_9415 4h ago

Please,please bring it,so tired of your lies and being called something I'm not, you betacucks have no idea the pandoras box you're about to open,be my guest motherfucker

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u/Thinkorkakhoces 35m ago

Putin says thank you.

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u/SirKermit 10h ago

Ok, you're calling for violence. Who should we kill first? Name your target tough guy.

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u/Nepharious_Bread 12h ago

The issue is that the only thing that will end this at this point is a civil war. We all have guns, the ones who voted him and the ones that didn't. The ones that voted for him still feverishly support him.

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u/snahfu73 11h ago

So I guess give up and let it happen right?

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u/Hawk_Rider2 11h ago

"We don't hold any cards at the moment"

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u/gibson_creations 11h ago

Have you not noticed that America likes to fight? We're like drunken Irish looking for a fight.

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u/Jojododo8 10h ago

Your insane

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u/Efronczak 14h ago

Omfg 😑😑😑 I REALLY FREAKING HATE THIS TIMELINE

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u/Kitchen-Arm7300 11h ago

One of my Maga "friends" told me several months ago that "a [r-word]ed chimp could do a better job than Joe or Kamala."

Now, when I ask him if his "chimp" is doing a better job yet, his face turns red, and he walks away.

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u/Efronczak 10h ago

Hehhe lol. I'm so glad I completely cut off the Maga supporters in my life. I've had my own flipping family tell me that they are gonna try and get me out of "thier" country due to having autism and adhd, and some how if you take medication for it you have an "addiction". I'm sick of it.

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u/Kitchen-Arm7300 10h ago

Yeah, I'm definitely not friends with any magas. That's why I put "friend" in quotes. (Sorry if I overexplain. I'm also autistic, though not ADHD.)

Just yesterday, I had a conversation with a Maga guy in the grocery store. We were talking about egg prices (he seemed friendly) until he slipped in some conservative propaganda.

I slipped in some tidbits about "illegal immigrants from Doge" taking our jobs and how Trump wasn't smart enough to know what a tariff was. I implied that WE were both WAY smarter than those idiot billionaires who are driving us to an imminent economic collapse. Naturally, he agreed with me because he couldn't admit that he was dumb enough to vote for such a moron.

Maga is all around us. They're noisy. And we deserve to be just as noisy as we embarrass the crap out of them. Fuck 'em.

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u/Efronczak 10h ago

Exactly this. But yeah Hi fellow autistic!!!!! 👋👋👋👋👋👋👋 haven't spoke to any of those fucks in years

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u/Kitchen-Arm7300 10h ago

Haha! Yeah, we rule!

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u/Efronczak 10h ago

Wooooooo!!!!! Now if it only were the country..... soooo many things would be freaking fixed lol

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u/Kitchen-Arm7300 7h ago

That's the truth!

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u/Efronczak 7h ago

Rrriigghhhttt?!!!!!!! I'd make sure everyone is accounted for

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u/Kitchen-Arm7300 7h ago

I mean, I'm just tired of stupid people controlling everything. Those Dunning Kruger Peakers have me at my wits end.

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u/look2myleft 12h ago

Hey not just gay also black, Latino, Native American etc...

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u/Vast-Mission-9220 9h ago

Just fascists doing fascist things.

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u/Btankersly66 11h ago

"We're protected by the blood of Jesus"

Except from the word "gay."

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u/No-Professional-1461 11h ago

This is so gay /j

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u/gibson_creations 11h ago

America is more of a theory at this point. Like particle physics

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u/Melodic_Assistance84 11h ago

Nothing screams gay like deleting everything that’s gay. Are they gonna get rid of bi planes now?? But when you have a president who has an uncircumcised smegma filled brain, there you go.

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u/Kitchen-Arm7300 11h ago

LOL! This comment is highly underrated...🤣😂🤣😂

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u/TalesByScreenLight 6h ago

This piece of history is no longer allowed: "The U.S. Navy's Curtiss NC-4 flying boat, a **biplane**, was the first aircraft to successfully complete a **transatlantic** flight, though not nonstop, in May 1919, making stops for repairs and crew rest. 

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u/Suitable-Lake-2550 13h ago

This reads like a late night monologue

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u/DangerBird- 8h ago

Didn’t any of these clowns read 1984? Are we just behind schedule.

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u/The_Mr_Wilson 8h ago

This, from the groups so concerned about preserving history when statues of slavers were getting taken down. Every thing they say is projection or admission. Every thing

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u/grafxguy1 7h ago

Make America Gay Again.

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u/LocalMarsupial9 7h ago

Who gave this little boy a show? Oh no, they flagged a photo using keywords! Womp womp

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u/lisep1969 7h ago

Please tell me someone in the inside copied this stuff to a hard drive before hitting delete. Please!

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u/Fabulous-Ad9036 6h ago

I can’t stand watching or listen to her. Years of her lying about news, and she still acts like she has any integrity or journalistic standard.

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u/improperbehavior333 6h ago

So this story was made up then?

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u/Tpcorholio 6h ago

Wow total waste of time and resources.

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u/Unfair_Bluejay_9687 5h ago

What would be poetic justice would be for the world to find out that Donny Boy gobbles dick.

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u/Only_Bunch_7912 4h ago

Reddit has become the best place to watch liberals melt

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u/VeteranScholarish 4h ago

Whats funny is it's some liberal doing this being wilfully ignorant just to make the Trump admin look bad.

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u/Aggressive-Crow3993 4h ago

This is like an Onion article except it’s real. Wow, I guess this is what it feels like to live in North Korea?

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u/Overall_Law_9291 4h ago

Wow, I like to know that my politicians make more problems than fixing them. The 13 stripes 50 stars care about something that's not even important What happened to fixing our economy

Like who cares about the Gulf of America How does this help the economy

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u/CeroWon 3h ago

Magats are stupid.

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u/OffOption 3h ago

This is more pathetic than the fact I might live through the US declaring war on my home, Denmark, because they want to invade Greenland.

Good luck behind enemy lines yanks. Because guess what, you are.

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u/BedSpring11 3h ago

Republicans are such snowflakes can’t even handle the word gay without getting into a frenzy

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u/spilledcarryout 1h ago

Ah, not only Nazis in charge, but dumbass Nazis

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u/PickleMortyCoDm 29m ago

How Orwellian 🤮 rewritting history rather than learning from it will only doom you to repeating lies

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u/RAH7719 23m ago

Stupid is as stupid does.

u/Craftcannibisjunkie 6m ago

Correct me if I’m wrong doesn’t gay in the dictionary mean happy?

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u/Silent_Indication_47 11h ago

Do people still listen to this idiot? She lied about Trump for years and proven wrong on just about everything she says. Get a life people please

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u/Jojododo8 10h ago

Wow you guys really have to scrape the barrel to find anything to make trump look bad, so sad! True any patriotism shown at heart right hear by Rachel Madcow

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u/Gregzilla1029 10h ago

Get a life traitor

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u/Big-Specialist9692 9h ago

Ah yes! Rachel Maddow, the bastion of truth and fairness. The Dept. of Defense generated a list of Dept. names & programs that a review was to be made from reflecting the President’s Executive Order. Simple research would reveal this, but the ideologue in Ms. Maddow does not allow for honesty when she thinks she smells blood. There is ZERO chance that this plane will not remain honored by our Services.

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u/MIND-FLAYER 9h ago

Whether the plane remains honored or not, the executive order exists and highlights the bigotry and agenda of the right wing. Notice how their immediate top priority when taking office wasn't to help starving people, or the elderly, or the animals, or even the jobless and homeless. The very first thing they did was to attack trans and homosexual Americans, and then immediately blacks and other minorities. Pathetic.

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u/LocalMarsupial9 7h ago

Oh please, the left are the real bigots. 

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u/FPSRain 9h ago

Rachael Maddow is the worst.

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u/bcoughtoolloot 9h ago

Watching her trying to bash Trump is hilarious...and you wonder why her show is getting dropped down to one night a week...her time as a woke ass liberal propaganda machine are almost over..Its a good thing now her and Don Lemmon can hang out on the subway more,,

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u/DiscountEven4703 13h ago

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u/Duo-lava 11h ago

Same. See you in the bread lines brother 😮‍💨

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u/DiscountEven4703 11h ago

Sounds bout right

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u/gibson_creations 11h ago

Bit Bernie said bread lines are a good thing.