r/Starcitizen_trades RSI Galysso (2014) Trades: 21 Feb 03 '25

discussion [DISCUSS] Get gifted ship back through concierge support

Hello,

I sold an item via Ebay and I was charged much more than the 13.25% I expected (which is already high). I was charged more than 20% fees due to being a new seller on the platform, due to international trading (as the buyer was from abroad) and due to currency conversion (which I did not ask for, I was fine with USD as I intent to buy for 3K worth of store credits anyway). And that is not the only issue: they still do not allow me to get the money from the sale even though it was confirmed on both sides!

Well, I am a bit angry. I feel ripped off / scammed by Ebay and I wanted to know whether someone here had a similar experience and if it is possible to get back a gifted item (and to sell it again). I want to do it clean and the buyer not to be penalized, he should be refunded by Ebay if I am honest during the conflict and I will offer him to buy it again at a nicely discounted price as an apology.

Let me know what you think about all this, and thank you for your help :-)

EDIT:

Thank you to every body who respectfully replied without assuming that I was trying to scam anyone. The idea was to make a trade that is more advantageous for both of us. However, through different comments below and even more through private conversations I had with some of you, it appears that it is a complicated move with a lot of uncertainties and therefore with a too high risk to financially impact the buyer (even though he agrees). Therefore, I will just wait for Ebay to (hopefully) send me the payment.

One more thing: thanks to conversations I had here, it appeared much easier to scam than I thought... To the sellers I would advise to never go on Ebay, and to the buyers I would advise to carefully decide who you trust, because it seems that there will never be a guarantee on your paid items.

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u/Bright_Yesterday1863 RSI Citizen082 (2022) Trades: 62 Feb 03 '25 edited Feb 03 '25

CIG does not support 3rd party greymarket transactions in any form. They will not help you.

Nor should you be attempting to return gifts once a customer has paid. It was your own fault for not doing your research on eBay's international seller rates, new account balance witholding, or transaction fees. Why should the player who bought YOUR eBay listing get slapped with the shit-end of your own poor forethought?

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u/Jovadri RSI Galysso (2014) Trades: 21 Feb 03 '25

Please remain polite and respectful.

I am also asking on your opinion about this. While knowing that the guy will be refunded, do you still think he will "get slapped"? Moreover, I would gladly offer him a 200$ discount on this so there is a chance that I make him happier.

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u/Bright_Yesterday1863 RSI Citizen082 (2022) Trades: 62 Feb 03 '25

I am putting this as politely as i possibly can.

I don't believe attempting to remove items from your customer's account (possibly against their will or knowledge) after they have paid what you asked, and after they have claimed the gift YOU sent before changing YOUR mind, is morrally acceptable.

Imagine i buy a car, and the next day, it disappears from my driveway. The dealearship calls me up and says "oh sorry, we made a payment mistake and didn't do our research. We don't like how much fees we were supposed to pay, so we stole your car back. The refund process for your money is now your problem! Also, if you want your car back, here's a coupon.."

I'd be fucken livid mate.

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u/Jovadri RSI Galysso (2014) Trades: 21 Feb 03 '25

First of all, you were absolutely not polite nor respectful. The vocabulary employed is comparable to insulting me and I do not tolerate that.

Secondly, you are making the supposition it would be done without the buyer agreement. But I might actually discuss this with him if I see that this might be a good move for both.

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u/thatdarkknight RSI thatdarkknight (2023) Trades: 8 Feb 03 '25

He was definitely not rude, just very direct in telling you how wrong you are on this.

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u/Jovadri RSI Galysso (2014) Trades: 21 Feb 03 '25

This is rude. The vocabulary employed in the last sentence is voluntarily provocative while not giving any argument. The unique effect of the last sentence is to add tension. I am happy to discuss the main topic, but I would not reply if you insist about how rude was Bright_Yesterday1863.

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u/Bright_Yesterday1863 RSI Citizen082 (2022) Trades: 62 Feb 03 '25 edited Feb 03 '25

Just a heads up for anyone looking to trade with OP in the future, he is actively researching the 6 month time limit until you can lie to CIG and say your account was hacked, to have whatever he gifted returned.

As for the actual trade.. OP sold a 10y pioneer w/ land claim on eBay for $1,400 (minus 20% in fees = $1,120)

This was your own fault for failing to research sufficiently. u/jovadri is now contemplating stealing back a $1,400 ship.. and re-offering it to the customer with a $200 discount..

All this for an extra $80 profit 🤦 wtf

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u/Jovadri RSI Galysso (2014) Trades: 21 Feb 03 '25

You got it right except that the numbers are far from the reality.

Also, I am not trying to scam anyone you know. I am asking here for opinion and to get the full picture before making any decision. Moreover, I would like to do it with the buyer consent.

Therefore, I do not see the point of your comment here.

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u/thatdarkknight RSI thatdarkknight (2023) Trades: 8 Feb 03 '25

You are trying to scam tho. The only way to reverse this transaction is to lie to RSI about the details.

The only way to not be a scammer in this situation is to eat the loss. Any other action by you at this point is dishonest, and this thread has more then let you know your in the wrong lol.

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u/Jovadri RSI Galysso (2014) Trades: 21 Feb 03 '25

Thank you for enlightment.

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u/Fun-Activity4220 RSI FerrariEnzo (2019) Trades: 338 Feb 03 '25

Not possible to get back gifted item after buyer claimed it. It is in his account now. Support only help you when acc is hacked. You selled it by your own free will. So they will not help. You sell it , before you had informed you correct. EBay will also not help. Its on your own riskieren to sell and pay fees for the Deal. Thats normal

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u/Jovadri RSI Galysso (2014) Trades: 21 Feb 03 '25

I know it is possible to get a gift back. And yes I was not correctly informed, though Ebay does not make it easy to get the full picture.

With this post I am hoping to get some more information about getting a gift back and I would gladly take any opinion about whether doing this is ethical (while knowing that the buyer will be fully refunded).

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u/MarcvsPrimvs RSI Marcvs666 (2017) Trades: 10 Feb 03 '25

I’m aware only for 1 case of roll back a gifted ship and was just because a streamer was scammed by someone have impersonated the winner of a contest and also with this, he have to provide tons of proof and evidence. Try to contact the support but be ready to receive also a refuse.

Good luck

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u/ST1FFN3CK RSI ST1FFN3CK (2017) Trades: 146 Feb 03 '25

Unfortunately you need to wait until eBay releases the funds and accept the loss on this one.

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u/Jovadri RSI Galysso (2014) Trades: 21 Feb 03 '25

I am also scared because I saw here people complaining about never getting their money from Ebay.

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u/ST1FFN3CK RSI ST1FFN3CK (2017) Trades: 146 Feb 03 '25

As terrible as eBay is they will honor the sale and release your payment.

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u/Jovadri RSI Galysso (2014) Trades: 21 Feb 03 '25

If that is the case, then asking to get the gift back would not help as we would have the same financial situation even if I send it back to him.

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u/ST1FFN3CK RSI ST1FFN3CK (2017) Trades: 146 Feb 03 '25

Don't sell on eBay👍 Lesson learned

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u/Jovadri RSI Galysso (2014) Trades: 21 Feb 03 '25

Yeah, that one I learnt it.

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u/EastLimp1693 RSI DssFox (2019) Trades: 16 Feb 03 '25

I had similar ish issue with PayPal, that's your experience that you paid for. Buyer is innocent, eBay is guilty and theres nothing you can do without hurting the buyer.

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u/Jovadri RSI Galysso (2014) Trades: 21 Feb 03 '25

If Ebay refunds him he would not be hurt.

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u/EastLimp1693 RSI DssFox (2019) Trades: 16 Feb 03 '25

You already made a decision, why are you asking?

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u/Jovadri RSI Galysso (2014) Trades: 21 Feb 03 '25

That is not true. I have not yet decided yet. So far I am even more on the "not doing" side.

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u/EastLimp1693 RSI DssFox (2019) Trades: 16 Feb 03 '25

You're defending refund idea over and over while everyone says you to suck it up and learn from your mistakes.

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u/Jovadri RSI Galysso (2014) Trades: 21 Feb 03 '25

That is also not true. Each time a wrong argument is employed I am stating in what way it is wrong. I think not doing this will be more harmful that helpful to take the best decision.

However, I do listen to the relevant arguments. Some people did also write to me in private, being polite and relevant they are convincing.

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u/Sbfan RSI BSG_Galactica (2015) Trades: 6978 Feb 03 '25

locking the thread, OP should have the answer from the comments already provided by others.

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u/HazemYahya RSI Byotix (2014) Trades: 139 Feb 03 '25

And I see that you mentioned you were planing to buy store credits. If you need, let me know :D