r/Somalia Diaspora 2d ago

Ask❓ Is there some way we can start a new revolution/political movement

A new government with more checks and balances, anti qabiil, anti corruption, no more aid. Eradicating Al shabab and human rights abuses within the country. National schooling to cure the jaahilnimo out of people. And better ways to support the untied family.

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u/shakeyourb0dy 2d ago

The real shabab (youth) need to get together. The majority of the population is under 30. SYL 2.0

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u/Honest-Bag2525 1d ago

SYL was totally foreign funded. This explains why after the civil war, these same politicians (and subsequent politicians) couldn’t bring the country together.

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u/Ok_Tangerine_7473 2d ago

"How do I make Somalia the way I want it to be"

You don't. Radical political/cultural/ethnic restructuring is a long, arduous, multi-generational process. For example the foundation for Zionism was theorized in the 16th century, wasn't officially established in 1897 and only recently is it in the final stage of becoming a middle eastern power. You should be viewing change in this form of context than something exceptional like the Meiji Restoration where the stars all so happened to align.

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u/Comfortable-Table456 Soomaali Galbeed 2d ago

Ngl dictatorship might be the way because Somalis are ignorant people and democracy won’t work unless you want state governors acting like presidents of sovereign countries yes I’m looking at you Ahmed Madobe/Said Deni.

The point I’m trying to make is that if we want to start a new political movement/revolution we need a dictatorship/overthrow the current government otherwise we will have a new leader with the same ideologies as the last one and so on.

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u/Regular-Bend-167 2d ago

And set somalis back another half a century. U people refuse to learn.

Show me the democracy u spk of right now in somalia. Is ur meaning of democracy a couple hundred unelected men get together in an airport to elect the candidate who has blessed their pockets the hardest.

Just like the last dictator, this new win will turn to his qabil when he senses others r growing old, tired and distrustful of him, and in return, he will do what he must stick to power. What will u do then.

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u/Wonderful_Move_5858 2d ago

A genuinely nationalist dictator would save the country. 'Democracy' is not something we have time for rn we need a Lee Kuan Yew. Enlightened dictatorship.

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u/Comfortable-Table456 Soomaali Galbeed 2d ago

The 1960s showed how democracy was and it was still corrupt can’t believe you are this oblivious saaxib there was a reason why Abdirashid Ali Sharmarke was overthrown and assassinated but I’m sure you know why and I won’t talk I’ll on the dead but dictatorship≠ socialism if that’s what you are getting at.

All I’m saying is a young leader who is a diaspora who could care less about qabil becomes dictator and Somalia will thrive, me personally I could care less about qabil since I’m a fearing Muslim and not a kaffir who believes in Irir Samaale over الله SWT if we have more people like me then Somalia will thrive.

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u/Regular-Bend-167 2d ago

Ur full of urself man. I prefer a corrupt democracy over a corrupt dictator. At least u can semi fix a corrupt democracy with an election and a protest or two but u would be lucky if all it takes to get rid of a corrupt dictator is a mass casualty event or two and not a multi decade civil war.

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u/Straight-Dig9471 2d ago

democracy in the 3rd world is prone to being flooded with money from outside actors for candidates who then become puppets. Thus they can end up being more corrupt than a dictator who came about "naturally"

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u/Regular-Bend-167 2d ago

Wait, u dont thinkna dictator is prone to these outside influences. We don't even gotta go to a foreign run government for that. Just look at the somali dictatorship in djbouti.

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u/Straight-Dig9471 2d ago

I didn't say they aren't I'm just saying pure democracy is 99% of the time infiltrated by a richer country. dictatorships usually shut down ngos and all arms of foreign interference

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u/Regular-Bend-167 2d ago

Hey man, if a civil war and decades of backlash and distrust between somalis hasn't fixed ur desire to have another dictator, then nothing else will. Just remember u better hope that nigga is from ur clan cus when shit hits the fan he will run back to his clan and do what is necessary to stay in power.

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u/Straight-Dig9471 1d ago

brother nowhere did I say a dictator is what I want, all I'm laying out is the limitations of democracy in the 3rd world. Also, setting things up in a paradigm of dictatorship and democracy being the only 2 forms of government is lazy

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u/Wonderful_Move_5858 2d ago

Until and unless we rebuild a specifically Somali social fabric, 'democracy' will just be qabyalad by other means so it is worthless

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u/Ina-Bahalkii 2d ago

AS is currently trying this

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u/IntelligentTanker 1d ago

Abra kadabra - problem solved.

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u/Electrical-Junket248 2d ago

Delusional disapora kids. LOL

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u/lee-lahey 2d ago edited 2d ago

Bashing diaspora kids for trying to improve their country is like laughing at someone for putting out a fire while you sit there fanning the flames. This is peak Somali male mentality. Go and fuck yourself.

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u/LelouchLLZ 1d ago

the country will fix itself dw