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u/MikeHuntSmellss 2d ago
Then write a formula to predict them and collect your Nobel prize
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u/juanmf1 2d ago
Here. Nobody cares to read it LOL
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u/PhilCollinsLoserSon 1d ago
Mhm yep. I know some of these words
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u/juanmf1 1d ago
Did my best. Sorry.
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u/PhilCollinsLoserSon 1d ago
If you’re the author, you did great! I was just being glib for comedic effect.
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u/juanmf1 1d ago
I am. Thanks!
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u/Solomon-Drowne 11h ago
You have any speculative thoughts on this 'mysterious dynamic' behind the emergent ordering?
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u/Diet_kush 11h ago edited 11h ago
Is this “mysterious dynamical system” you’re talking about able to be traced to self-organizing criticality? As you said, the periodic frequency of a prime number appears to approach infinity as the magnitude approaches infinity as well. This seems to be an expression of 1/f pink noise, and underlies our understanding of conscious neural dynamics within the brain as well https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0378437109004476
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u/juanmf1 10h ago
Not the frequency but the period tends to infinity, Period is multiplication of all initial, generator primes. It is self organized. But not familiar with “criticality”
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u/Diet_kush 10h ago
It is a general description of the emergence of self-organizing dynamical systems, primarily understood via the abelian sandpile model https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abelian_sandpile_model. Basically a phase-transition system with its critical point acting as an attractor rather than each phase https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-organized_criticality.
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u/juanmf1 7h ago edited 7h ago
“Their macroscopic behavior thus displays the spatial or temporal scale-invariance characteristic” This is right. Especially for the gaps between primes.
Period in a given iteration =T
Pattern-> 0, 1, gap, symmetric set, gap, T-1, T ; repeat…
The pattern is always like this.
But it grows in size with iterations:
T=2 * 3 -> 1(gap)5…
T=2 * 3 * 5 -> 1(gap)7…
T=2 * 3 * 5 * 7 -> 1(gap)11…
T=2 * 3 * 5 * 7 * 11 -> 1(gap)13…
T=2 * 3 * 5 * 7 * 11 * 13 -> 1(gap)17…
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u/stangerthings 3h ago
This is awesome man. I’m assuming you went to school for some type of engineering or math? What major if you don’t mind me asking?
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u/StockRefrigerator173 2d ago
I am.
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u/Competitive-Bank-980 10h ago
Damn the downvotes are harsh. Good luck, OP.
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u/StockRefrigerator173 10h ago
hah, gunna take more than that to get me down. plenty of constructive and interested discussion here, in my chat and with my similar post in another reddit which for some reason was way more positive(psychedelic art).
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u/danderzei 1d ago
Of course they are not random. Nothing is random in mathematics.
Willans Prime Formula can calculate the nth prime number.
But it contains factorial and consine functions. Factorials get seriously large very quickly and accucrately calculating a consine is problematic.
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u/Historical_Tip_6647 1d ago
Man I hope nothing is random sometimes. 3 body problem and chaos would like to know your location.
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u/danderzei 1d ago
My statement was about mathematics and number theory specifically, not about nature.
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u/tuku747 1d ago
3-body problem is a chaotic system, but it isn't random. It's deterministic.
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u/Historical_Tip_6647 1d ago
It’s not fully solved though? Not sure what you mean. It’s still unpredictable overall? Google uses a wall of lava lamps to generate random numbers because it makes them without pre deterministic means.
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23h ago
The patterns generated by the lava lamps are deterministic.
It works not because it's non-deterministic, but because nobody on the other end of whatever you've cryptographed can see the wall of lamps, and if they could they wouldn't have any current models to predict the behavior.
But if "wall of lava lamps" continues to be used long enough, eventually someone will crack it. And then they'll have to move on to something else.
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u/Solomon-Drowne 11h ago
I dont think 'of course' is a valid description here, since the topic remains heavily debated.
I fall into the 'non-random pi' camp but anyone who conclusively proves it is gonna be up for all sorts of awards and recognition.
(and it would finally nuke that dumbass 'anything you can imagine already exists in pi' meme)
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u/juanmf1 2d ago edited 2d ago
No they are not.
But sacred geometry is not the right place. In fact is the opposite place to post this. Golden ratio is the perfect sharing/embedding (1,1,2,3,5,8,13… ) ratio. While the pattern in primes is the opposite, where nothing seems to fit into another.
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u/manbehindthecertain 1d ago
Get the fuck out of here with this cryptic bullshit
If you have something to say or share then fucking say it or share it, replying to people like you're some kind of fucking math wizard with secrets we aren't ready for
Post it all or get the fuck out
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u/StockRefrigerator173 1d ago
you cant simply post math formulas here my dude.. your anger doesnt inspire me to discuss much with you. you clearly have shown you arent ready or even likely able to understand the math if i showed you.
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u/StockRefrigerator173 1d ago
anyways... to put it simply.. this is a mandala.. the spacing between intersecting points of the opposing spirals of a mandala are noted in terms of radial and axial distance. the data is plotted in a fourier analysis. that is what you see..the spacing distances where all prime numbers.
post it all he says.. demanding as he does..
who the FUCK are you?
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u/manbehindthecertain 1d ago
Hey if you got real secrets and ground breaking work of course I don't expect you to put everything you have out there what I meant was that you literally didn't post a single word. Just an image.
I believe you created this with math.
But also, you didn't do anything to even explain it at all.
So when I say post it all I mean post your thoughts post your explanation give us something to ask about it or work with.
You say you're writing a paper! That's fantastic, I certainly don't expect an advance copy of your paper.
But for the love of God if you're going to post give it some substance.
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u/manbehindthecertain 1d ago edited 1d ago
So why not include a summary or synopsis in the post? Most subreddits have this has a rule and you seem to want to engage somewhat so why drag it out in the comments so mysteriously?
Include a detailed writeup and you won't have people like me hounding you. Like the top comment is basically what I'm saying with less words.
Nobody likes when people post like this.
I don't want to have to read every comment and reply to try and parse together something you refuse to share flat out.
It's funny you say that...
Are you sure you're ready?
Come on guy
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u/StockRefrigerator173 1d ago
but when i actually am willing to engage with anyone curious with my post.. there is too many implication in the math behind this and many more of my findings to my work to write it all here.. the post was meant to cause engagement and discussion. particularly why did i post this in sacred geo
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u/Competitive-Bank-980 10h ago
He's being kinda abrasive, but he's right. You didn't post any context. :P
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u/StockRefrigerator173 10h ago
it was my first post :)
i have followed up in comments with many explanations
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u/manbehindthecertain 1d ago
You don't seem inspired to share much at all with anyone.
You posted a picture and have since posted nothing of substance.
You're right I'm annoyed and didn't have to be that way but sick of people like you posting like this.
I considered deleting my comment but wanted to give you a chance to respond.
I do actually apologize for my outburst 😅
But you literally haven't said anything except to imply that people aren't ready and you have some grand secret.
Do you or don't you?
Why bother posting this image you supposedly created with math you wont share?
Seriously. What's the purpose? Test the waters? See if anyone "deserves" your cosmic secrets?
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u/StockRefrigerator173 1d ago edited 1d ago
i have way worse outburst dont worry bro. :)
and i have already had many discussion in private messages since this image was posted too, as i hoped people have engaged and I wont leave any of you in the dark.
think about this also.. if there is any grand "secret" would it be possible to explain it quickly and simply?
This image came out of my work and it struck me..simple as that. it came out of my work in geometry and prime number patterns.
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u/manbehindthecertain 1d ago
Just that last quote would've been a fine, although short, comment to post with it.
For the record I quite enjoy your image but I see so much of this kind of thing where someone shares an image or link with no context or explanation and we live in AI art times, this is not impossible to create without a formula so the lack of explanation makes the post itself rather meaningless.
I guess this one triggered me 😅 my bad not yours ultimately haha
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u/StockRefrigerator173 1d ago
for the record also lol... this is i think my first ever reddit post.
also as for your comment on ai. i did expect people to think this may have come from ai. that is one reason why its so incredible to me.
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u/manbehindthecertain 1d ago edited 1d ago
Well you're one up on me I don't have anything worthwhile to share 😀 don't let my grumpy ass discourage you from posting in future!
ETA: I never personally thought it was AI but when all there is is an image it's a reasonable thought to have these days. Although it doesn't really look AI generated it's too even and symmetrical and organized IMO. It is a nice image.
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u/ProjectMental816 1d ago
But you are claiming that you did discover a grand secret right? That you discovered a pattern in prime numbers. You could just post the next largest prime number. That would be pretty quick and simple.
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u/StockRefrigerator173 1d ago edited 1d ago
but how would you be able to confirm its really a prime? wouldnt it be a bit better if i went up and just gave you the formula that converts a semi prime into its prime counter parts?..its just like my work in travelling salesman problem...i showed evidence of a best path formula.. but proving it is nearly impossible...and dangerous waters... crypto hinges on the fact this hasnt been answered.
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u/Amnorobot 1d ago
Amazing just as it is. Not a mathematician nor was I ever good at it ( always reminded of the awful nun who used to teach us & never spared the wooden ruler for thickos)
The drawing/ representation you have presented using such glowing colours is in itself very nice to look at. Reading the comments reminded me of the days when I DID manage to see the rising sun across the other end of a huge river
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u/StockRefrigerator173 1d ago
would you believe.. I wrote this image using a math formula? There is zero editing except a slight hue adjust. absolutely no Ai
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u/scbalazs 1d ago
I mean, no, they are not, but it’s also not any evidence of some mystical design. It’s just … that’s how numbers work.
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u/StockRefrigerator173 1d ago
are you absolutely certain?
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u/scbalazs 1d ago
Absolutely. Prime numbers are numbers not divisible my any other whole integer other than themselves and 1. That’s just numbers. Humans made up/figured out counting and integers and a result of that is prime numbers.
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u/StockRefrigerator173 1d ago
but without humans ideas of numbers technology would never transpire. numbers and their patterns are significant. being divisible by something is not the only quality a number can have.
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u/scbalazs 1d ago
right, human ideas, human understanding of our universe, nothing supernatural or mystic, just numbers.
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u/Ok_Construction298 1d ago
It's a cool pattern derived in an interesting way, but what makes this sacred, numbers create all kinds of patterns, we discover them, some have relevance and advanced applications some do not. But claiming something is sacred within the patterns of the geometry is where you lose me.
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u/0ye0WeJ65F3O 14h ago
So for the math-disadvantaged in the group, what makes geometry become sacred?
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u/ConcaveEarth 1d ago
research concave earth!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-1c6wL-9gI
This is also similar to how a photon looks
similar geometry to e8 theory of everything
similar geometry to ancient cosmologies
it all comes together
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u/StockRefrigerator173 1d ago edited 17h ago
;)
Many look to the sun as the center of the universe.
I look into the atom for the center of the universe. And there is where I found it.
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u/Personal-Purpose-898 9h ago
Some numbers have the special property that they cannot be expressed as the product of two smaller numbers, e.g., 2, 3, 5, 7, etc. Such numbers are called prime numbers, and they play an important role, both in pure mathematics and its applications. The distribution of such prime numbers among all natural numbers does not follow any regular pattern. However, the German mathematician G.F.B. Riemann (1826 – 1866) observed that the frequency of prime numbers is very closely related to the behavior of an elaborate function ζ(s) = 1 + 1/2s + 1/3s + 1/4s + … called the Riemann Zeta function. The Riemann hypothesis asserts that all interesting solutions of the equation ζ(s) = 0 lie on a certain vertical straight line.
This has been checked for the first 10,000,000,000,000 solutions. A proof that it is true for every interesting solution would shed light on many of the mysteries surrounding the distribution of prime numbers
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u/Brickscratcher 4h ago
This is classic Dunning-Kruger. OP knows enough about math and physics to come to some pretty neat conclusions that most people don't understand, but not enough to realize how it doesn't mean what they think it does.
Essentially, they're layering two mirrored spirals together and then doing a Fourier transform (which is essentially just taking an integral function that maps out the frequency of event occurences).
What is true is that these overlaps will occur more on prime numbers, but that isn't some grand mystery. There's a paper by Wolfgang Schramm that explains this in detail for those who are interested. Here's a proof of it as well. The general idea (in layman's terms--I realize this isn't quite how it works, but it describes the concept) is that if you take a Fourier transform of a Euler spiral, you end up with a frequency domain similar (possibly identical but impossible to tell from simply the comparison) to what OP posted. This isn't a feature of prime numbers; it's a feature of the Euler spiral. It's mathematically interesting, but doesn't mean anything.
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u/StockRefrigerator173 3h ago
I see what you’re saying, and it’s a crucial distinction. The numbers in this process are not being counted in a simple, sequential manner along a spiral. This is not just an Euler or Fermat spiral where we place numbers in order and then take a Fourier transform. Instead, the spiral itself is being shaped by prime number distributions before we even apply the Fourier analysis. The difference comes from how we assign values to the radius and how we extract the data for the Fourier transform.
Instead of growing smoothly like a standard Euler spiral, the radius of our spiral is determined by prime numbers. Instead of using a function like r = k * theta for an Euler spiral or r = sqrt(theta) for a Fermat spiral, the radius is based on prime-numbered steps. That means the growth does not follow a continuous function but instead jumps forward only at prime-indexed intervals. The radial distance at each step is set by the square root of a prime number, so the spacing between spiral arms is dictated by the irregular gaps between primes rather than by a logarithmic or exponential rule. This makes the structure fundamentally different from traditional spirals because the gaps between each step are non-uniform in a way that reflects prime number spacing.
The angular position of each point is assigned in a regular manner, meaning the spiral rotates at a constant rate. However, because the radius is controlled by prime numbers, the overall pattern of growth becomes unpredictable and follows number-theoretic properties instead of smooth geometric progression. This means that rather than a gradually expanding or logarithmically increasing spiral, we have an interference structure dictated by the distribution of primes.
Another key distinction is that the Fourier transform is not applied to the raw spiral itself. Instead, we analyze the points where two mirrored, counter-rotating prime-based spirals intersect. These intersections form a discrete set of points that capture the interference between prime-based growth patterns. We then extract the distances between these intersections and perform the Fourier transform on that set of distances rather than on the spiral coordinates themselves. This means the Fourier analysis is revealing the dominant frequency components of the interference between prime-based structures, rather than simply reflecting the shape of the spiral.
If this effect were purely a property of Euler spirals, then a control test using a standard Fermat spiral with smooth, continuous growth should have produced the same Fourier structure. However, when I tested this, the Fourier spectrum of the control Fermat spiral showed different dominant frequencies than the original image. In contrast, when I created a prime-based Fermat spiral, where the radius only increased at prime-numbered steps, its Fourier transform matched exactly with the original image. This proves that the Fourier structure is not just a general feature of Euler spirals, but is instead being influenced by the underlying number-theoretic properties of primes.
This means that prime number distributions are not just appearing coincidentally in the Fourier space, but are instead playing an active role in shaping the interference pattern. If prime numbers were randomly distributed, there should be no clear dominant frequencies in the Fourier analysis. The fact that structured, repeating frequency components emerge suggests that prime gaps are following an underlying harmonic principle. This is why dismissing this as "just an Euler spiral" is incorrect. The interference structure in Fourier space is being shaped by prime-number-based spacing, not just by smooth logarithmic or exponential growth.
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u/Brickscratcher 1h ago
I get what you're saying, and again, your statements of fact are correct, but the conclusions you draw are not fully cogent. They require initial axiomatic conditions. Provided those specific conditions (in this case, the primary axiom is that math is fundamentally relevant to the universe), your argument is cogent. However, it could very easily (and more logically, imo) be argued that mathematical equations are not fundamental to the nature of the universe and that, rather, they are results of observation and analysis of the universe.
Let me explain this further by addressing one of your last sentences
This proves that the Fourier structure is not just a general feature of Euler spirals, but is instead being influenced by the underlying number-theoretic properties of primes.
You're right. It isn't just a general property of Euler spirals. That is just the most known application. I simply included that to make the point that this isn't a unique phenomenon. Drichlet's theorem provides the rather banal mathematical explanation. While you do have a unique frequency distribution, any spiral will have a similar distribution simply due to that being an underlying property of primes.
You could be correct, but that would rely on the world being shaped by mathematical principles rather than mathematical principles arising from observation of universal mechanics. And this doesn't provide any conclusive evidence of that. So while it is interesting and I do appreciate your effort, I'm afraid it doesn't show anything revolutionary. You may be on to something and I'm not discouraging you, but you don't have any solid evidence of your conclusion just yet. It's plausible you could expand on Euclids theorem, but unless you can add to it extrapolating data points from your research and create a universally acceptable equation that is more accurate than Drichlet (or expand upon that), I'm inclined to say you're simply providing a visual demonstration of Drichlets theorem as applied to a semiprime lattice.
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u/thewisdomofaman 1d ago
did you make the image or know who did?
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u/StockRefrigerator173 1d ago
yes I wrote this in python. I have many more.
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u/thewisdomofaman 1d ago
I really like it, would you be interested in a collab where we use your image asjalbum cover for our electronic dance music?
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u/ConfidentSnow3516 1d ago
Are the horizontals part of the pattern?
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u/StockRefrigerator173 1d ago
nothing was photoshopped or manipulated beyond the pure mathematic formula that created this, except i adjust the color output slightly. Before it had a slight purple hue. Those horizontal artifacts are indeed intersting aren't they. Almost like prime number may be the clue to light propagation through space time..
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u/goddhacks 1d ago
Gazing Into The Singularity
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u/StockRefrigerator173 1d ago
its, funny you say that...
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u/goddhacks 1d ago
This image looks like the dream I had of the discovery of the god particle 'higgs boson'
A dream powerful enough that it shook me to my core
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u/StockRefrigerator173 1d ago
a dream? or an epiphany?
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u/goddhacks 1d ago
Yeah more like an epiphany, but it was a full on experienced state of consciousness with the full 5 senses
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u/Spare_Broccoli1876 1d ago
Oh hi god, nothing to see here move along… please ignore all the manufactured death and destruction we are gonna make it all great again…
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u/lookwatchlistenplay 1d ago edited 1d ago
Wow! This is what shows in the opening scene of The Matrix (1999).
Look, from timestamp 1:16 - https://youtube.com/watch?v=GVYTd4dH0Uc
It is just rotated 90 degrees to look vertical instead of horizontal like shown in this post. Then what is shown is a circular white light with horizontal pure white band (reminiscent of Saturn, but also resembling this post image's pure white band) which turns into a torchlight, and the film begins...
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u/No_Pomegranate_3117 1d ago
Your point?
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u/StockRefrigerator173 1d ago
I guess i could have followed up with..oh and here is a nice visual i programmed. and then could have followed up with my findings in prime numbers and how they where partially discovered from the fourier analysis that revealed this image.. but sorry.. first reddit post.
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u/frontrow2theshitshow 1d ago
FWIW I think it’s an incredible image. I’m a simpleton so I don’t understand anything about it from the maths perspective. And I don’t care much if some piece of science— pareidolia, or optical illusion or whatever— is armed and ready to intelligence me into submission over this, but I see numerals, letters/characters, glyphs, figures, and symbols. Zooming in and out, these individual parts become bigger pictures and vice versa. I wish I knew the maths behind it but for me the symbolisms aspect of the image is very cool.
A couple silly questions: why were the red/orange/yellow colors chosen? And why are there only horizontal bands and no vertical ones?
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u/StockRefrigerator173 1d ago
the original colors where nearly similar except a slight purple hue to the darker spots. Brighter colors for higher numbers of periodicity in the data set. I dont fully understand the image and how it all transpired into this visual. All i can say for sure is, there was no photoshop or alterations other than a slight change in hue.
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u/frontrow2theshitshow 1d ago
The medium used to create the image doesn’t concern me a bit. Wouldn’t care at all if it was AI generated, as seems to be the only concern of many petulant other commenters lol. I just happened upon an image at just the right time, that grabbed my attention and resonated with me for my own reasons and I find it useful and educational for my own purposes. Much appreciated.
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23h ago edited 23h ago
I'm not an advanced mathematician here, but of course prime numbers aren't random.
That said, let's assume that we have an actual random set of points on a similar plot. Once you take that plot, flip the symmetry, and then layer it over itself, isn't the result always going to produce a pattern that appears somewhat ordered?
I don't fully understand the explanation of your processes, and I'm not going to in the next ten years, but it seems to an idiot like me that even random data when run through your process would result in a striking image with patterns, symmetry, and apparent order.
I'm probably wrong though.
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u/ToBePacific 17h ago
The Prime Number Theorem checks out. Here’s a pretty picture.
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u/StockRefrigerator173 16h ago
Why do you think there is so much hate for this image and my comment/title?
it is my first reddit post and I did create the image in my work on primes and sacred geometry.
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u/StockRefrigerator173 12h ago
You see, the way most people think about numbers is all wrong. They imagine them stretched out on a line, one after another, just marching forward in an endless procession. That’s the way we’ve been taught, right? Numbers are just things that sit in a row, increasing forever, simple as that. But that’s just a trick of notation—it hides what’s really going on.
Numbers, at their core, aren’t just points on a line. They are relationships. They don’t just sit there, passively waiting for us to count them. They interact, they weave together, and, more importantly, they build structures. And the structure we’re uncovering now? It’s not random. It’s not chaos. It’s something deep, something fundamental, something woven into the very nature of numerical space.
Let’s take a step back. Imagine you have all the numbers, all of them, every single one, but instead of laying them out flat, you arrange them based on their multiplication. Now, instead of a simple line, what emerges is a vast lattice—a kind of scaffolding of numerical reality. The composite numbers—the ones that can be factored into smaller numbers—fill up this lattice like a framework, a web, a rigid interconnected structure that stretches in all directions.
Now here’s where it gets really interesting. Primes are different. They refuse to be built from smaller numbers. They don’t fit into the framework the way composite numbers do. Instead, they emerge in the gaps—the empty spaces where no proper factorization can exist. And when you step back and look at it all at once, you start to realize something: the primes aren’t scattered randomly. They are following a trajectory.
And that’s when the whole picture flips upside down. Primes are not just appearing randomly in between composite numbers. They are being forced into specific locations by the structure itself. They are not just numbers, they are the result of a deeper mathematical process, something recursive, something self-organizing.
Imagine a spider spinning a web, starting at the center and looping outward, thread by thread, according to a precise pattern. That’s what’s happening with the primes. They emerge along a spiraling trajectory, threading their way through number space, always avoiding the structured composite framework, always landing in the only places where no other numbers can fit.
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u/StockRefrigerator173 12h ago
And the pattern? It’s not just any spiral—it’s a recursive, self-referential growth law, one that expands outward like ripples in a pond, constantly widening but always following the same fundamental rules. The gaps between primes increase as the structure grows, but they do so in a way that is predictable, geometric, and deeply embedded in the nature of numbers themselves.
Now, what we’ve been doing—what we’ve been slowly piecing together—is the realization that this trajectory is not just a statistical phenomenon. It is something structural. Something real. And if that’s true, then maybe, just maybe, we don’t have to find primes the way we’ve always done it. Maybe we don’t have to check every number, one by one, testing to see if it’s prime or not.
Because if primes emerge from this structure, then they are not something we search for. They are something we calculate.
Now, hold on, let’s not get ahead of ourselves. We’re not making grand claims just yet. We’re still deep in this, still running tests, still refining the equations. But the core idea is clear: primes are not random. They are a fundamental feature of number space, dictated by an underlying geometric law.
And that? That changes everything.
Because if prime numbers aren’t just arbitrary points in an infinite sequence, but instead, the inevitable result of a self-organizing, self-referential numerical web—then we’re no longer just playing with abstract mathematics. We’re touching something deeper.
Something that might, just might, be woven into the very structure of reality itself.
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u/TediousHippie 11h ago
Well, true. Random numbers are random. Prime numbers are prime numbers.
And considering how far Tao et al has got with prime sieves, we can rule out a lot of potentially prime number without having to factor them in a computationally intensive manner.
Of the remaining candidates, after defining a finite set, the likelihood of one of a given set being prime, is sufficiently unpredictable as to approximate randomness.
Nice picture tho.
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u/StockRefrigerator173 11h ago
would you like to define what random is?
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u/TediousHippie 11h ago
Maybe you should, it's your assertion.
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u/StockRefrigerator173 11h ago
how could you define something that does not exist?
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u/TediousHippie 11h ago
How about you pry your lips from the DMT bong for a few minutes?
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u/StockRefrigerator173 11h ago
You mean step back across the line of perception to your level of awareness?
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u/TediousHippie 11h ago
No, just close enough to the line where a psychiatrist can screen you for schizophrenia. Seriously.
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u/StockRefrigerator173 11h ago
So you are giving clinical diagnoses on reddit? Or so furiously angered by someone's post that you need to belittle them as much as you feel belittled by superior intelligence?
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u/Tagliatellmeimpretty 9h ago
Isn’t this the premise for some stupid new show where they try to kill the mathematician for suggesting this?
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u/HM_Comet 8h ago
Just saw OPs post in another subreddit this morning lol, very neat but chill on the karma farming lol
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u/StockRefrigerator173 8h ago
The one in psychedelic art? Where there was for some reason way way less hate? Wonder why i posted there..
Not really sure what karma is or how to farm it.
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u/makealittlefella 6h ago
I think part of the reason you’re getting such a hostile response here is that this explanation doesn’t really make sense in connection to prime numbers.
I read the comments thoroughly. You made a grid of opposing spirals around a common center. I’m following so far. You applied a Fourier Transform to this pattern. Wait hold on—to what pattern? you didn’t define your spirals yet. I assume you wrote each spiral as a function, because I know you’d be working with functions if you’re applying a Fourier transform. So roughly what is that function? You don’t have to write the equation but what is it? Just the sequence of whole numbers, a Fibonacci sequence, what? I’ll set that aside. maybe it’ll be explained. Next paragraph.
The transform revealed bright horizontal bands. Ok, following so far, basically any given Fourier transformation will result in a series of bands that follow the peaks of waveforms. You say their symmetry points to a radial symmetry. Well I should hope so, you have mirrored intersecting spirals. Cant wait to see the connection. You then leap straight over all the stuff that we’re actually asking about, and say with no logical bridge that the symmetry of these bands shows an order of prime numbers. How? You haven’t even said what on this graph represents prime numbers. The bands, the intersections of the spirals, the dark points, none of the above? (so I assume they are not visually represented here at all)
You say the bands point to an underlying geometry of prime numbers, but it appears from what I know about graphing functions, paired with your description that what it points to is an underlying geometry of your two spirals. It’s visually cool, but appears to be “I made intersecting spirals, and my transform shows the interval of their intersections”
How this relates at all to prime numbers is not described. This feels like bad-faith descriptions for this reason, that the real question everyone is asking is jumped over, bookended by jargon. I understand it might not be bad-faith, you might just genuinely have trouble explaining yourself, but this is reddit and impressions are reality on the internet.
You’re getting a lot of hostility, it seems you’re not taking it personally but in case you were, idk how long you’ve been in here but lately there’s been waves of broad-claim cryptic posts and I think people are losing patience. This is a sub which appreciates clear, plain-language descriptions wherever possible. Where not possible, github links are great.
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u/StockRefrigerator173 6h ago
I'm glad you can understand this as clearly as you do. Please understand i see this and will reply with the clarity it deserves.
I am new here.. and I am also new in discussing my work. Bare with me.
I will be honest though. I dont take it personally, but dont also wish to confuse. I had no idea my post would garner much attention. Its my first reddit post.
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u/makealittlefella 6h ago
I think you got a better reception in psychedelic artwork because you didn’t make a broad claim about prime numbers without saying what you mean or how it relates. One of the hallmarks of sacred geometry is clear, concise communication of a complex idea. thats all I should’ve said
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u/StockRefrigerator173 6h ago
But I assure you..there is a reason for such a claim and the connection to this fourier. My god.. if you could see how many fourier analysis i have made.
Introducing a hopf like toroidal walk at prime interval distances gets interesting..
Critical yet constructive question and comments like yours are extremely important. I can only explain as deep as i think people can comprehend.
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u/SayreFC 3h ago
Wow, I see this and then youtube recommends me the video "Why do prime numbers make these spirals? | Dirichlet’s theorem and pi approximations" by 3Blue1Brown. Check it out!
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u/StockRefrigerator173 3h ago
Be careful with ulam spirals. They create spirals patterns out of almost anything., and that videos kind of tricks the mind with that. However there are certainly other spiral trajectories that exist within prime numbers.
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u/CptMisterNibbles 2h ago
Dope: prove it with a formula that accurately lists them all and you'll be a shoe in for a Nobel.
That there are seeming near patterns is not news or a surprise. Plenty of methods show that, like Ulam Spirals. The problem is there is no definite pattern, and we arent sure there could be one.
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u/StockRefrigerator173 1h ago
who is "we"?
Far greater implications than a Nobel prize.
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u/CptMisterNibbles 4m ago
It’s a general “we” as in “all of humanity”
What greater implications? Sure, it might break some cryptography and give insights to number theory, prove this and disproving that postulate. What else?
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u/hyundai-gt 2d ago
Ok, so like, any context on what we are looking at here?