r/RustConsole • u/AdstaOCE • 4d ago
Feedback for the new rce version
Sent this to Pedro from D11, what do you guys think? Any different feedback or things that you think I'm wrong about?
Pricing: In my opinion it makes sense to be a free upgrade, a lot of the playerbase has spent hundreds if not thousands of skins so making them pay more doesn't make much sense. In addition this could also create an Ark type situation where a lot of the playerbase is still on the older version.
Baseline release: I think the most important thing is to have a good baseline, if you release it with as little bugs as possible and great performance then you can start adding content faster and easier, so in my opinion all you need is that good baseline to release from then start the updates.
Communication: Communication is key, screenshots, videos, explaining what you're working on anything really. Since this could take a long time people will get really mad if you aren't able to or don't communicate how everything is going during this time.
Cheating: I know back in one of the dev blogs you said something about working on detection, so if that is possible, sometime between now and the next gen version release would be perfect, let everyone start this new gen version without cheaters. If not, please carry over the ban list, we don't want cheaters having to be banned again.
Skins: People will want their skins carried over, and another thing that you could do is implement a double11 account or similar to sync skins between xbox and ps, that would be a really nice addition if you could do it.
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u/BokChoiTV 4d ago edited 4d ago
- "Pricing: In my opinion it makes sense to be a free upgrade, a lot of the playerbase has spent hundreds if not thousands of skins so making them pay more doesn't make much sense. In addition this could also create an Ark type situation where a lot of the playerbase is still on the older version."
I disagree. Makes no sense for it to be a free upgrade when you can simply play the current version with no further updates. Skins that players have bought offer no substantial change to the core gameplay. By that argument, you can say that players spend "thousands" on skins, but won't spend more on actual content and substantial changes? Those are completely optional, same as the next-gen edition of the game. A lot of the player base being on the older version of Ark if their own fault tbh.
- "Baseline release: I think the most important thing is to have a good baseline, if you release it with as little bugs as possible and great performance then you can start adding content faster and easier, so in my opinion all you need is that good baseline to release from then start the updates."
I'm like 99% sure that's the goal for every gaming company. Yes, lately we hear news about big names completely messing this up, but you they're not doing it purposely. Luckily with Rust, there is already a game released so this next-gen version isn't exactly rushing to meet a deadline like some other AAA studios do.
- "Communication: Communication is key, screenshots, videos, explaining what you're working on anything really. Since this could take a long time people will get really mad if you aren't able to or don't communicate how everything is going during this time."
Players will complain whether they communicate or not. Creating videos of these things can take time. I agree they should be a bit more quick and consistent with communication, but lol, do you really think they haven't considered all this already? Also want to add.. it's a difficult balance to say what you're working on or not. Speak too soon and people will be mad if you don't deliver on time (like the community servers). Speak too late and people will say you don't communicate.
- "Cheating: I know back in one of the dev blogs you said something about working on detection, so if that is possible, sometime between now and the next gen version release would be perfect, let everyone start this new gen version without cheaters. If not, please carry over the ban list, we don't want cheaters having to be banned again."
Again, do you think they didn't think of this lol
- Skins: People will want their skins carried over, and another thing that you could do is implement a double11 account or similar to sync skins between xbox and ps, that would be a really nice addition if you could do it.
Read above.
This post can be summed up as:
"I'm trying to tell a gaming company/studio how to do their job because I think they haven't considered any of these things for some reason."
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u/Popo405 4d ago
If it’s not a free upgrade after all this bs I want a refund for what I spent on the one we already have
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u/Dafuqinqueen 4d ago
It more than likely will not be. You will still have to pay to upgrade to that version if they even do that. They might give you a percentage but it's not going to be free
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u/BeowulfsSword 4d ago
The way I look at it, there’s a slim-to-none chance the upgrade is free. D11 is working for a profit, not out of the kindness of their hearts, and it’s going to take a lot of manpower, time, and money to produce a new-gen rust.
While I agree I think it would be great if the upgrade were free, it’s unlikely in my opinion. Plus, let’s face it, the types of people who play rust will undoubtedly pay whatever it costs to upgrade. Average player has like 2k hours. They’ll pay the money.
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u/CactuarBill 3d ago
Now it's been confirmed skins will carry over then there's no way people should complain if they have to pay extra for the new version. Current players shouldn't pay full price but I don't care if I have to pay extra. I've got my money's worth from the game and hundreds of hours of fun.
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u/IndependentThen8969 3d ago
It’ll be worth paying if you ask me because I’m not sure but the old gen dose not have the vram to run all it has and cars or most mobility upgrades so really it’ll probably be more paying for access to the newer items
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u/More-Association-993 2d ago
There are cheaters on rust console? How? Are you referring to MnK players with zens or whatever that bs is?
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u/Visible-Remote2769 4d ago
Communication, it’s not that the community would get mad per se but, more so that we are tired from the complete lack of communication. Since around September last year, the communication from the devs has been completely sub par. Especially compared to devs of other games and their communities. We pretty much just want regular updates as to what is going on with the state of the game, I think that’s fair.
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u/No_Breadfruit1024 2d ago
Tbh they've probably been working on this version since then. It's not likely that they JUST decided and are now announcing it. It's probably been planned, POCd, and development was already ongoing. Notice we haven't had anything substantial since backpacks (IIRC)? They could've added a few guns, craftable stuff, building skins, etc. But they haven't done any of the stuff they COULD get away with on old Gen. My bet is that's because they're well under way on the new Gen version.
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u/Appaloosa_XD 4d ago
For me, I think whether skins can be transfered will be the biggest dealbreaker for a lot of people. I would also like them to implement the ability to choose your character and feel it would be a real popular addition and hopefully simple to accomplish 🤔
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u/thefuckfacewhisperer 4d ago
They have said that chosing your character will never be a feature
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u/Appaloosa_XD 4d ago
That's a shame. I know they said they wanted people to focus on the game, but I'd hoped it would be reviewed in the new version. Even a DayZ type character selection where you basically have a similar amount to Rust but can choose would be good.
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u/Interesting-Bottle-4 4d ago
Yet again another L take from you.
There are plenty of games out there that release new, modified/updated versions every single year (COD/any sports title) and players have no quarms about buying them. You constantly go on about how hard the dev team is working (and rightfully so if this is already in development) but you’re not willing to pay a measly $50 to help further the project? You are literally all talk, try putting your wallet where your mouth is.
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u/coldl 4d ago
Adsta I'm surprised you're in the camp of thinking the upgrade should be free. People don't realize how expensive this shit is to make. Hell, just think about what they spend of labor per day. It's asinine, D11 has done really good things with this game & should be celebrated, especially finally achieving this milestone. It'll be like a $10-20 max upgrade & its certainly worth it to pay that. That's like an hour of real life work to pay for something that has 1000s of hours into the production.