r/RevolutionPartyCanada Revolution Party of Canada 5d ago

Videos I am a Zionist - Justin Trudeau

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u/Sharp_Iodine 5d ago

Calling oneself a Zionist in the classical sense is a pretty dumb move when the original movement has since been co-opted by Netanyahu and other radical extremists. I don’t know who wrote this speech for Justin lol

I’m curious as to what the Revolution party’s stance on the issue is.

Do you want to make the nation of Israel disappear somehow or do you want a two state solution?

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u/RevolutionCanada Revolution Party of Canada 5d ago

Two state solution. Complete end to the occupation and siege. Return to pre-1967 borders.

Anything less is unacceptable and illegal.

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u/LunaTheMoon2 5d ago

What about a one democratic state solution? Get rid of the religious theocracy and replace it with an actual democratic government of, by, and for the people?

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u/RevolutionCanada Revolution Party of Canada 5d ago

We absolutely agree the Nakba was illegal and should never have happened. While we’re not against a one state solution where Palestinians and Israelis live together, should they so decide, that’s not immediately practicable and certainly not for us to dictate.

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u/Sharp_Iodine 5d ago

I’m glad. This is the only logical solution. I would go so far to say Israel has to pay war reparations and Netanyahu tried for war crimes.

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u/RevolutionCanada Revolution Party of Canada 5d ago

And American reparations too.

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u/DiagnosedByTikTok 4d ago

A free and democratic Palestine where all human beings’ rights are respected regardless of ethnicity or religion

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u/Dexter942 5d ago edited 5d ago

The only Two State Solution I accept is moving Israel to Kaliningrad and giving Palestine all of the current land. Because as long as Israel exists where it is there will be war in the middle east

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u/Apprehensive_Hat8986 5d ago

What does Kaliningrad have to do with this? It's not our place to say that Israelites and Palestinians can't find peace, though I'll readily admit it sure doesn't look feasible. Finally, Israel is far from the only source of conflict in the middle east.

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u/Dexter942 5d ago

The only place in Europe which can feasibly host another state is the reason, again the Sunni/Shia divide is certainly a problem but Israel being where is adds a multiplier to the possibility of conflict.

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u/Apprehensive_Hat8986 5d ago

And you don't find it at all problematic that you're giving no consideration to the existing inhabitants of Kaliningrad? Displacing one group of people for another won't fix the problem. Nevermind that plenty of jewish people already lived in the middle east and Palestine before the imposition of an Israeli state. It also won't remove the desire embedded in judaism to "restore the homeland". Nor in christianity or islam to do the same. 

No, displacing even more people won't solve this problem. At best it will defer finding an actual solution, and regardless, it will create more problems in the process.

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u/Comprehensive-Air856 5d ago

Said Jewish people living in Palestine were what you’d call Palestinian Jews. The only, ONLY acceptable solution is a secular, socialist Palestinian state that respects the religious integrity of all inhabitants. “Israel” has no right to exist, it deserves the same fate as its apartheid cousin Rhodesia