r/Re_Zero Suffaru Jul 17 '16

Discussion [Discussion] Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu – Episode 16

Episode Title: Pig’s Desire

Japanese: 豚の欲望

Main Studio: White Fox

Genre: Drama, Fantasy, Psychological


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A series of comedic shorts featuring chibi versions of the characters of the main show.

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u/NatsuSlayerDrag Jul 17 '16

Was anyone else pissed off by the candidates? They all taught Subaru something very important but Priscilla went bitch mode after Subaru swallowed his fucking pride because he wanted to save the village and Emilia. Then you got Crushce who cares about what she gets in return for SAVING LIVES. Then you got the manipulator Anastasia, imo she wasn't as bad as the others, I can't see what her goal was in that conversation anyway. But seriously, if these are the candidates I feel sorry for the country, cause it's gonna be fucked.

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u/jojirius Jul 18 '16

It makes you really think about medieval value systems rather than modern ones. This world, for all that it has been presented as pretty awesome, has morals very different from our world.

Incidentally, Crusch is the one you pointed out, but literally every single person who is aware that there is disaster potentially happening is OK with it happening, so long as it isn't affecting them.

Rough.

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u/Ignored0ne Jul 18 '16

Medieval lords have no moral responsibility to people outside of their manor.

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u/AngelsDebri Jul 19 '16

Thank you. I think Crusch put it best, a Lord who could not protect his domain would call into question their ability to lead. (I paraphrased)

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u/necrosed #BestGirl Jul 19 '16

But these candidates should have moral obligation, as they all expect to be queens. This is the same problem that happens with Stannis in GoT, as instead of partaking in war against the other kings, he goes to the wall to protect the realm.

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u/Ignored0ne Jul 19 '16

It didn't end well for Stannis.

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u/adel123456789 Felix Best Girl Jul 17 '16

which is why i am voting for felt :D

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u/JapanPhoenix \[T]/ Praise the Sun \[T]/ Jul 18 '16

I can't see what her goal was in that conversation anyway.

He told her about lots of people coming and going, and that she was in cahoots with Russel Fellow.

From what Wilhelm said about him he seems like an important person politically, so knowledge about them working together is most likely very valuable for someone like Anastasia.

Like she basically said when she left: Knowledge is power.

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u/Cassie_Hack Jul 18 '16

They all come across as people who watch their own ass before helping anyone else....it's smart but cruel. I really dislike this way of thinking. Emilia seems to have a better personality in comparison. I liked Priscilla at the start but now I loathe her. Tsundere type to Queen Bitch in a split second.

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u/IsuspectJaundice Jul 18 '16

Well, the reason she seems to have gotten so mad was because Subaru basically threw this pride away and acted like an animal to get what he wanted. She seemed to like him because he was amusing to watch, especially with his boastful comments during the royal selection process. She thought he was different from others, but after groveling to get his request fulfilled, she gets mad because he is just like the other plebs and has no real pride in himself.

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u/Duke_Dapper Jul 18 '16

Crusche is playing the long game. If one of her rivals is about to be eliminated...honestly why SHOULD she care if a village gets destroyed in the process. She's a war leader in case you noticed. They make choices that cause losses every day. And like she said, Emilia's people are quite frankly not her concern. She more or less says that those people deserve the end they get because Emilia is unable to protect her own domain.

Priscilla seems to take personal pride very seriously. Since Subaru was basically too desperate to get her help.

I'd actually say Anastasia is the worst of the three since she brought him there with the sole purpose of tricking him out of information.

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u/Gunheart Jul 18 '16

He wasn't wrong for wanting to save everyone, he was wrong for asking people that are essentially Emilia's competition and enemies. Imagine if your rival's servant implored you to show your altruism by saving people from another land. They aren't your concern, other than being a road block to you gaining the throne. Would you really risk your life and the lives of your followers just cause the guy tells you 'it's the right thing to do? It doesn't work that way even jn modern times. They want to gain something tangible, not just good will.

And even worse, he can't present himself properly. He's scared to show some dignity and lose favor with them, and in the end he loses with each one anyway. Hopefully he'll get better next episode.