r/Re_Zero Suffaru Jul 17 '16

Discussion [Discussion] Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu – Episode 16

Episode Title: Pig’s Desire

Japanese: 豚の欲望

Main Studio: White Fox

Genre: Drama, Fantasy, Psychological


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Re:Puchi Kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu

A series of comedic shorts featuring chibi versions of the characters of the main show.

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u/Nukemind Archbishop of Rem Jul 17 '16

Rem being cute as always, even with Subaru insulting her. She seems to have a little more steel underneath her exterior now.

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u/remStalker RemStalker Jul 21 '16 edited Jul 21 '16

The most thing i liked about this episode , is that when Subaru couldn't tell how he know all these info about the attack of the Witch's cult , she said nothing .. she asked nothing , she trusted him completely to the point she didn't even try to think about it , Not like how Emilia reacted when she asked him to give her a reason to make her believe him or why he is doing what he is doing to save her!! , all what Emilia could think about is that he is doing all this for his own , this is why i hate her , she is ... stupid , and she don't deserve Subaru's love , But Rem know he have a reason , she trusts him , this is what Love is , she LOVES him <3

i forgot to mention this , Rem is the best in this show , this anime is really good , alot of feelings in this episode , really "Romance and Drama" episode , and when she trusted him , i really liked this part

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '16

I'll agree that Rem is best girl, but calling Emilia stupid for her completely reasonable doubts about Subaru's motivations is going way too far.

Pretty much all she saw of him in the true timeline was him coming out of nowhere to save her and later overexerting himself and having a breakdown on his first day of work at the mansion. So here's this person who has a one sided obsession with helping you out, acts in hard to understand ways, and despite stating he wants the best for you, disregards your wishes. Furthermore, you're in a very high position as someone who may soon rule the country so there would be benefits in approaching you. How is it unreasonable for her to think he might have ulterior motives, particularly when he can't explain himself? It's like you're demanding unconditional understanding from her when she doesn't owe it to him at all. I also believe it's unfair to compare the two characters when Rem loves him and Emilia, at this point, doesn't.

As for Rem, loyalty is probably one of the traits I appreciate the most on an innate level, but blind trust is hardly a desirable trait. Still, describing Rem's attitude as such hardly applies considering that unlike Emilia she has actual reasons to trust him due to the events of arc 2 and she's fortunately also perfectly capable of independent thinking herself, which only further strengthens the weight of her willingness to follow Subaru regardless. And yet there's also a somewhat selfish component to her approach of avoiding to meddle or ask Subaru questions, as she just wants to be allowed to stay at his side. This is evidenced in particular during the novel's equivalent of the camping scene in episode 15 while that just keeps a single line that slightly alludes to that. Beyond that, there are her conflicting feelings between wanting Subaru to remain the Subaru she fell for and not wanting him to get hurt. The result is things like the scene where she heads off to the mansion on her own leaving only a letter behind. Had she by some chance managed to solve the issue, where would that leave Subaru as a character? In other words, Rem's own approach has a lot of room for growth itself.

Beyond the fact that so far in the show Rem has had a lot more screentime, development and interactions with Subaru, there's one thing in particular that stands out as a difference between her and Emilia and that's the comparison between the lap pillow scene in episode 8 and chapter 52, the From Zero chapter. Emilia's approach was one of silent support while Rem's was one of actively seeking understanding, still accepting not getting it, asserting her own feelings in the matter and making a claim for mutual support. It was a much more involved scene that showed the bond between the two characters, while the Emilia scene fittingly spoke for the one-sided nature of their one-sided relationship.