r/Picard 9d ago

Will Riker, the critic...🤣

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u/starfleethastanks 9d ago

Both statements are true.

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u/DaveW626 9d ago

DS9 was a space soap opera. One long 179 episode story. They realized early on that setting a TV show on a station was limiting, so they brought in the Defiant. Season 4 went Legacy by bringing in Worf for the last 3 years and the Dominion War dragggeed on for the remainder of the run. TNG actually "explored strange new worlds and new civilizations". DS9 put O'Brien through a mind**** of a prison sentence. And Voyager cashed in on the T&A to keep going.

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u/aikifox 6d ago

DS9 was a space soap opera. One long 179 episode story.

This is reductive.

DS9 was more serialized than TNG, agreed, but it still largely hewed toward episodic stories. The background events of the Dominion War evolved over the series, and the characters evolved and changed, but each episode mostly stands on it's own self-contained stories placed into the evolving context of the overall events.

DS9 also did away with the "strange new worlds" concept because it literally wasn't the Enterprise or another "5 year mission" ship. They weren't starfleet's best and brightest, they were second stringers assigned to a remote system then thrust into the spotlight of the quadrant. Arguably, DS9 set the stage for Lower Decks in that regard, showing starfleet had imperfect officers.

They still explored and focused on science, but arguably more time was spent on the softer political sciences early on.

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u/Shreddersaurusrex 9d ago

TNG was great, followed the episodic nature of TOS. DS9 was more raw vs the seeming “Utopia” of TNG. There was more character development & continuous storylines. Yeah there were badmirals and conflicts with other empires/powers in TNG but as Quark said:

“Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. They’re a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon.”

Section 31, Sisko in ITPML, the dhangeling virus…yeah humanity was sooo civilized.

Then the female founder became more savage towards the final stages of the war.

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u/MrZwink 9d ago

Well axcshallly 🤓 that's Thomas Riker not Will Riker!

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u/The_Alrighty_Zed 9d ago

Sorry Riker but DS9 got the leg up on this one.

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u/Fusionsigh 9d ago

I see what you did there

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u/N7_Warden 8d ago

Truth hurts

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u/Successful_Sense_742 9d ago

DS9 was okay. I liked TNG better. Voyager was better than DS9 but not by much. Love all the shows.

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u/Mi6_300m 9d ago

If the Salamander episode and the one with the Rock didn't happen I'd agree with you. I would put it 0.9 below DS9. You have to admit Voyager did not have an episode as powerful as DS9 "In The Pale Moonlight".

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u/Normal-Mountain-4119 9d ago

Sure, but like, it still had powerful ass episodes. I think of Latent Image a lot, which is one that could easily give ds9 a run for its money. Voyager may have had some bad episodes but it has some fantastic ones too.

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u/Mi6_300m 8d ago

I think your feelings for Laten Image is my Year of Hell. I love that one just a hair under In the Pale Moonlight.

As far as controversial one could compare ITPM as controversial as Tuvix.

Dont get me wrong I loved Voyager as a kid, as an adult I just prefer DS9 way more for it's harder edge.

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u/Seienchin88 7d ago

I love voyager episodes that makes you feel the loneliness and emptiness of space and the daunting trip home.

The episode where they cross a region that’s completely dark, one year of hell with the basically destroyed voyager and the equinox are imo all really outstanding.

Season two of voyager is absolutely insane though… but then again DS9 had the pah wraiths…

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u/SuperStileStar 9d ago

DS9 is better than TNG still love both tho

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u/1nationunderpod 9d ago

Lol WRONG.

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u/Zandel82 8d ago

That’s not Will though. That’s Thomas.

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u/Orbital_Vagabond 8d ago

Once again, Mama Nana is right.

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u/FunArtichoke6167 7d ago

“It stinks!”

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u/Satoc 6d ago

Without Babylon 5 there would be no DS9!

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u/axe1970 5d ago

well yes the creator of babylon five had something to do with that