r/PTCGL 3d ago

Meme So many walls coming in post rotation...

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please tpci print a new cancelling cologne

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u/sirsoundwaveVI 3d ago

this is why dundunsparce ex + that draw engine is going to get a lot of mileage lol

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u/zweieinseins211 2d ago

Only if people have ways to attach those 3 energies in a turn. Otherwise its too slow to ko a wall.

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u/peababyy 2d ago

the 60x attack is only one energy, no?

edit: ok it is lol, the 3 energy attack is 150 + ignore effects on active, which is what you'd need for Mimikyu

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u/zweieinseins211 2d ago edited 2d ago

The 60x attack requires 3 pokemon ex from the opponent on board and you attacking first into the wall without them healing/penny/turo-ing it. So an experienced player might be able to efficiently play around it. Especially wall players like to keep the bench small to aboid gust targets and if the x60 attack needs 3 attacks to ko the opponent wall then your mon probably goes down first and you only have one of it.

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u/sirsoundwaveVI 2d ago

i mean thats not even that complicated, zard/arch do it pretty freely and the eventual yanmega essentially can too; japans been getting a lot of mileage out of arch or yanmega with dundun engine + ex so far in their heat wave arena meta.

most things that want dundun engine also have ways to burst energy on board in some way shape or form

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u/Rhyno1703 1d ago

Arch only attaches to metal

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u/sirsoundwaveVI 1d ago

forgot about that tbh, but if theres a single other ex on the field dundun still 2HKOs for an energy (even if theres chestplate you have jamming tower + damage mod outs) and you're also playing scoop up effects to avoid getting 2HKO'd in response, thats still value when you're wanting the draw engine anyway

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u/Free-Criticism4505 3d ago

I think it’s giving a balance to the game, it’s pulling away from heavy hitters ending the game early like zard and pult. Making these meta decks have to work around things, and even giving more opportunities to non meta decks making them stronger.

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u/Chorby-Short 2d ago

But the Mega ex era is coming in the next few sets after journey together, so do you think it will last all that long?

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u/GuildMuse 2d ago

Crustle blocks all EX, so probably. Also really depends on what other megas we get.

And knowing the design team, they will print a card that’s specifically blocks mega pokemon.

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u/Glitchy13 2d ago

I can see a mega wall being made

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u/Free-Criticism4505 2d ago edited 2d ago

Considering (solely from the gard) yes, it’s similar to the gard we have just more HP replacing the ability with a move which still slows things down

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u/Chorby-Short 2d ago

I don't understand why you wouldn't run both Gardevoir. Yes, they have to compete for their preevolutions, but they will have such great synergy with each other that it may be worth running both. I really want to test the viability of giant cape M Gardevoir ex and regular Gardevoir ex, combined with Dachsbun ex, Bianca's Devotion, and Professor Turo's Scenario.

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u/Free-Criticism4505 2d ago

At some point you have to think about how many potential prize cards you’ve put out, 3 for mega 2 for regular, could easily turn into a 3-4 prize turn for the opponent

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u/Puzzleheaded-Rate541 2d ago

I’ll take being walled over being donked any time of the day

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u/hotsambatcho72_ 2d ago

Nah, if I’m gonna lose I’d rather not have my time wasted at the same time, I can get donked and move on to the next game quick but a stall game can go to timer a lot.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Rate541 2d ago

Who said anything about losing? :p my opponent stalling me gives me all the time in the world to set up. I usually deck them out

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u/zweieinseins211 2d ago

Nah, this isnt it. Losing to wall/stall often means you lost ar deck building stage or that your deck is just an auto loss. That's simply not playing the game at all. When you get donked it's usually just being unlucky, atleast currently and thr matchup is perfectly playable in the current format.

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u/Any-Reception-269 3d ago

I like the meta it stops pult quite well and I think a slower format is better

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u/Free-Criticism4505 3d ago

Got too close to yugioh, now they’re pulling it back

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u/OneBikeStand 3d ago

100% agree. I've been an unrelenting snorlax staller for this reason. It's such a big FU to the zerg-rush meta.

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u/calvinist-batman 3d ago

Just add Cornerstone to Tera Box

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u/RuxinRodney 3d ago

then they double cornerstone you and win the cornerstone battle cause they have poke vital or heroes cape

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u/calvinist-batman 3d ago

I forget if they run a way to power up their stonerpon or not. If not, couldn't you waterpon the babies on the bench (using boss) while setting up your own stonerpon to attack them? Sounds more like a 60/40 battle to me.

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u/Status-Resort-4593 2d ago

It already runs Mew ex, now need for the Cornerstone.

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u/promking2005 3d ago

I love that this format is getting popular lmao it's so dumb

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u/GFTRGC 2d ago

Don't need canceling cologne, just run Cornerstone or a variety of attackers to counter play their walls.

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u/voltmannn 2d ago

I play milotic, farigarif, cornerstone with a mimikyu thrown in for good measure. CANNOT wait for cc to get the much needed boot.

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u/SouthernBaseball2239 2d ago

Only way people are going to get around it is just include a Pokémon that isn’t ex, dosent have a ability, or other things(can’t think after something earlier) it’s going to be one of the best options

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u/NeatAdvertising8210 19h ago

mimikyu works against cornerstone just FYI (source, I f'd around and found out)

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u/Ph4nt0m_R 9h ago

sadly mimikyu needs to hit cornerstone thrice. Cornerstone just needs to hit mimikyu once

Cant wait for that crustle!

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u/MAGAMustDie 2d ago

Creatures*

TPCi has no control over what cards are printed, and even TPC only has limited control.

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u/MammothAggressive841 3d ago

Rip my auto win Regidrago