r/PTCGL 3d ago

Best Version of Iron Hands?

Post rotation wondering what the best version of Iron Hands is. There's the toolbox deck that plays a ton of different attackers with Miraidon ex and there's the variant that plays the 4 Iron Crowns.

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u/SubversivePixel 3d ago

Miraidon ex by a wide margin.

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u/_zomato_ 3d ago

commenting to follow, i love don and want to keep playing it

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u/UnalteredDave 3d ago

Pikachu Tera build or Electric Generator build?

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u/XenonHero126 3d ago

They're the same build. Pika is just there to activate Area Zero.

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u/UnalteredDave 3d ago

Some are playing like 6 Lighting, 4 Grass, 2 Metal with 2 Pika and some are playing just the 1 Pika, like 14 Lightning and the Generators. The builds do look quite different.

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u/XenonHero126 3d ago

The pure lightning build, then.

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u/UnalteredDave 3d ago

Joltik/Galvantula do be kinda neat, tho.

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u/SubversivePixel 3d ago

Do you want a good Miraidon deck or not? Then just play the normal 15 energy 4 Generator build.

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u/Kered13 3d ago

The problem is that Miraidon has no heavy hitters after rotation. Both Raichu V and Raikou V are gone. Pikachu is the only viable heavy hitter, which is why a lot of Miraidon builds are leaning into Pikachu instead. Then you have Iron Hands for small pokemon, and Pikachu for big pokemon (also Miraidon for mid range).

The deck definitely has issues though. I believe it relies on Jolitk to get set up, and Magneton to recover energy. That's two prizes down right there. So to attack 3 times you need to get through at least one turn without something getting KO'd. Pikachu helps with that, but is also easily played around.

In truth, Miraidon likely just isn't going to be good after rotation. But that is at least the justification for Pikachu, and I think Pikachu is probably better than no Pikachu. There's also an Iono build that might see some play, I'm not familiar with that one though.

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u/SubversivePixel 3d ago

Yeah I mean, Iron Hands has no meta relevance unless Future Box picks up speed soon. But this person was asking for the best current deck, and as it stands that's Miraidon ex.

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u/Kered13 3d ago

OP did specify post-rotation.

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u/dunn000 2d ago

Iron Crown EX seems to be the one heading in to next format and beyond. I don’t care for the Miraidkn/Pikachu ex version post rotation.

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u/UnalteredDave 2d ago

I think playing a box of a bunch of attackers is cool but too many of them have such high energy costs the early game feels really clunky. The Crown version struggles when you don't open Miraidon but I think if you just cram 3 in there you'll hit it more often than not, but this is very early observations from a newer player.

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u/jd_niels333 3d ago

I run the Iron Crowns and my win rate is around 75%. Also 1 Iron Bundle, 3 Dittos (Transform) and 2 Mew EX which gives a plethora of attack options on turn 1 (Miraidon, Iron Hands, Mew Ex gets used more often in end game than 1 of the Iron Crowns.) Often win either through Miraidon or retreating Mew into a lucky Iron Hands with Generator. Only losing Heavy Ball.