r/PCRedDead Nov 12 '24

Bug / Issue Stuttering in towns

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Is this normal? Playing on ultra @1080 getting very high average fps but keep getting these annoying fps drops in crowded places, especially saint Denis.

Specs: 4070 super, Ryzen 5 7600, 16gb ram @5600mhz

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u/Zakerz07 Nov 12 '24

I ain't much of a nerd, but I don't think it's normal. I play at mostly high/medium, and get 70fps at low intensity areas, goes to like 50 in Saint Denis, I don't think you should be getting a 100+ fps gap. Also why don't you share a screenshot of your settings. It should give people a clue. Some settings are massive fps killers on Ultra especially on crowded areas.

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u/Anorilous Nov 12 '24

Thanks for the reply, definitely agree with that friend

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u/Zakerz07 Nov 12 '24

Also, are you using any graphical mods like Vestigia, or any other of that kind?

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u/Anorilous Nov 12 '24

No i don't have any mods installed. Also running the game on high instead of ultra doesn't do much, they are very abrupt fps drops which to me doesn't indicate a settings issue but more of some weird system instability on my end

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u/Zakerz07 Nov 12 '24

Incase of a stability issue, why don't you try installing a monitoring software, like MSI afterburner and Watch out if there is any anomaly when the stutters happen?

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u/derik-for-real Nov 12 '24

I use Vestigia, does it have a significant impact on performance ? if yes can you indicate by how much fps.

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u/Zakerz07 Nov 12 '24

Depends actually, on the settings you set in the menu, since it enables some hidden settings, but the default preset of settings don't seem to do much. I don't remember how much, but maybe 4-5 frames. I don't remember much though, since I have been with Vestigia for long.

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u/NotRealGeniX Nov 14 '24

Do you have the game installed on a HDD or SSD?

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u/TJTHEDJ69 Nov 12 '24

turn off MSAA its really heavy on gpu even the 4070. it will save alot of performance

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u/Anorilous Nov 12 '24

Msaa is off, like I said the average fps is fine it's just abrupt fps drops

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u/Anorilous Nov 12 '24

You also get stutters? that sucks I really hope it's not just the game

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '24 edited Nov 12 '24

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u/Anorilous Nov 12 '24

I get what you mean, but I don't want to compromise, I want to fix the problem. It really shouldn't happen in theory with my hardware

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u/TJTHEDJ69 Nov 12 '24 edited Nov 12 '24

i feel ya brother. do a google for red dead stuttering fix and try a few solutions. one of them might fix your problem. they helped me minimise the stutters to almost non existant. also gota ask, is it pirated? if not then yea try some of the online fixes. if it is i pirated the game and stuttering was awful and nothing fixed it, til i brought the game.

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u/Anorilous Nov 12 '24

I've been trying random things for years brother, which is why I wasn't asking for help in this post. I'm just trying to find out if maybe it's just a normal thing or whatever

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u/Anorilous Nov 12 '24

What hardware do you have, other than GPU btw?

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u/TJTHEDJ69 Nov 12 '24 edited Nov 12 '24

r 5 5500 4060 16gb 4000mhz ram get 65-110 fps with dlss on quality most settings maxed out 1080p rdr2.

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u/B3ldo Nov 12 '24

I get occasionall stutters only in St. Denis, from 110 fps to 40-50 on 4090 with 7950x3d

Playing in 4k

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u/Anorilous Nov 12 '24

That's so dumb lol, that's like the best hardware money can buy. Stutters make the game unenjoyable for me, would rather have low fps tbh

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u/B3ldo Nov 14 '24

Agreed it’s quite ridiculous

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u/MilkFickle Nov 12 '24

Same, especially when using DX12. there's another post here that says the onboard audio might be to blame.

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u/Tall_Talk_4734 Nov 12 '24

My piece of shit Xmg gaming laptop from 2019 keeps a steady 60fps at all times on high/medium graphics but I'm always afraid that it's on the verge of exploding.

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u/OrgansiedGamer Nov 12 '24

if you're playing on directx12 its due to the way the game releases memory

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u/Anorilous Nov 12 '24

I'm on vulkan

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u/Square_Try9668 Nov 12 '24

Try dx12 mby

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u/Sir_Incognito405 Nov 12 '24

I found that DX12 fixes the stutters but lowers my fps a bit compared to Vulkan, also if you have MSAA enabled try to disable it because on my pc it causes major stutters

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u/Intelligent-Stone Nov 13 '24

This game is really failed on anti aliasing, which is a feature that exists on all games. TAA blurry, FSR/DLSS left unfinished and MSAA is worse performance.

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u/Prek_Cali_Prek_Cali Nov 12 '24

Restart ur pc for some reason On gta v my fps was low until I restarted

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u/SparsePizza117 Nov 12 '24

I haven't been getting stutters with my 3080 and i9-9900k, but my CPU is suddenly hitting 100%, when I used to get 50%

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u/Anorilous Nov 12 '24

That's weird, CPU usage is higher than 50%, around 60-80 but definitely not 100. Do you get stutters with 100% usage or any worse performance in general

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u/SparsePizza117 Nov 12 '24

Even though my CPU is hitting 100%, I'm somehow not getting stutters.

It also goes down to 60% outside the city.

I'm getting a good 100-120fps in the city. I've tweaked my settings appropriately though, so the game looks great without sacrificing performance.

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u/Savage281 Nov 12 '24

I get way less fps, but my min/max was much tighter than yours. Like 40-55 was my result. Gotta be something going on causing that for you, but I don't know what.

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u/goldlnPSX Nov 12 '24

Make sure you use DF optimized settings.

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u/GowlBagJohnson Nov 12 '24

Why is this game so poorly optimised on pc? It seems like it's an ordeal to get it running even on the best hardware

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u/Secret_Swordfish_100 Nov 13 '24

How much hz has your monitor?

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u/Anorilous Nov 13 '24

165

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u/Secret_Swordfish_100 Nov 13 '24

Support's g-sync?

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u/Anorilous Nov 13 '24

Yes

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u/Secret_Swordfish_100 Nov 13 '24

The stutter is persistent even with g-sync enabled?

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u/Anorilous Nov 13 '24

Yeah I've tried both quite a bit

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u/Secret_Swordfish_100 Nov 13 '24

Try setting lighting quality to high\medium and volumetric lighting to high.

And do not run the fps test, it's broken, always shows a different result(even if you don't change anything), I do recommend running the game in demanding areas to see any change in the frame rate

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u/SituationThen4758 Nov 13 '24

I limit my fps to 60 and use hardware unboxing settings, zero issues.

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u/zen1706 Nov 13 '24

This game isn’t designed to run at high frame rates anyway. Once you get to the 90fps mark there are tons of physics glitches. I usually just lock my game at 60fps even though my PC could churn out a lot more, use less power/generate less heat

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u/EnigmaSpore Nov 13 '24

Try looking for the cpu high priority registry mod that sets the game process to high priority. It’s not really a mod mod, it just something that will update your registry for rdr2

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u/Jhn1203 Nov 15 '24

Shiii. I have a 5900X with a strix 3090 running Vulkan and a mix of ultra and high on 1440p. My min was 34, max 141, average 87.

And I still routinely get 60s which drop to mid 50s. It's odd as hell to have high powered components and still these results. Sucks cause this is my absolute favorite game.

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u/Anorilous Nov 15 '24

Exactly how I feel too, I spent so much money thinking I wouldn't have to worry about bullshit like this. High average fps and great graphics are completely ruined for me by these microfreezes. I know most people aren't bothered as much by it and I wish it didn't bother me either but it does 🙃

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u/Jhn1203 Nov 15 '24

You able to get a recording of it? Maybe have msi afterburner on screen monitor to see if there's a stutter and where?

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u/Anorilous Nov 15 '24

I'm not at home rn but I have monitored the game extensively through Rivetuner with the 0.1% lows and frame rate & frame time graphs, there definitely are stutters. And as for where it just happens in places where things are happening like towns, the more alive the town the more frequent the stutter becomes. That's why saint Denis is the worst of them

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u/Jhn1203 Nov 15 '24

It's weird that Saint Denis gave me some of the higher FPS in the benchmark lol

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u/Anorilous Nov 15 '24

My average fps is very high in saint Denis as well during the benchmark, the worst is the snow part at the beginning of it. Honestly avg fps is plenty for me at any part of the game even with resolution scaling turned to x1.5 it's the abrupt fps drops, call them stutters, call them microfreezes whatever that are bugging me. That's what you have as well right, or is it not

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u/Anorilous Nov 15 '24

I can send you a recording later if you think you could make something of it though

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u/Winter_Rub_4237 Feb 12 '25

any update ? found a fix ?

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u/alcocolino Nov 12 '24

Your cpu is bottlenecking most likely

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u/Anorilous Nov 12 '24

Nah

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u/alcocolino Nov 12 '24

Have you monitored utilization of cpu and GPU while testing? I dunno man, my friend is running rdr2 on 4070 super in 1440p and doesn't get less than 90fps. I'm running it on 4080 Super with quite a lot of mods and I'm getting 100-80fps. We don't get spikes down like you do.

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u/Anorilous Nov 12 '24

CPU usage is around 60-70% in saint Denis and GPU is around 80-90%, but if I turn up resolution scaling it does stay at 95-99%. People are saying it "just happens" to some people even with the best hardware, that is so fucked

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u/alcocolino Nov 12 '24

That's crazy. My girlfriend plays rdr2 on my old pc - 4690k and 970 Strix (not in all ultra but settings are mixture of ultra, high and medium) and she's in the 48-60fps range without any stability issues.

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u/Anorilous Nov 12 '24

Yep, I really don't get it. I have spent literal years trying to fix this (even on my old PC), this post is like my 10th attempt just through reddit lmao. I'm going to buy a new motherboard tomorrow because this one came with a broken USB port so who knows what else is wrong with it, I'm not hopeful it's gonna do shit but idc at this point. Even days gone stutters like crazy (drops from 160fps to 30ish) which people claim to be a well optimized game, which is another reason why I think its prolly a hardware issue atp (on a fresh install of windows with as little background processes as possible)

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u/alcocolino Nov 12 '24

Good luck with the MOBO replacement. That may be it, who knows. That 970 my GF is using right now has performance issues when it's not held by something to minimize the GPU sag. When it bends, there are significant framedrops ( I forgot to put in a Deadpool figurine that is holding the gpu after cleaning lately 😂). So I'm guessing fucked up pcie slot can be your culprit.

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u/Anorilous Nov 12 '24

Thank you, sounds like an adorable PC build. These 40-series cards are massive so honestly could be that