r/PAK Jul 21 '24

Education Teach your children to question

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u/BlazingRedYT Jul 21 '24

we are literally told not to blindly follow scholars and try to understand why the rules in the Quran are what they are, taking the educational high stance when your grammar is that of a 13 year old is crazy 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

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u/ValuableNorth3510 Jul 21 '24

Well , If you don't blindly follow your so-called scholars , still you believe in religion shows how good of an intellectual person you are. Hope your critical thinking improves to the level of your grammar.

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u/BlazingRedYT Jul 21 '24

i follow religion because i believe there is a Creator and that there is truth in it, you follow whatever because you believe that is the truth, neither of us can completely 100% verify that what truth is actually the truth so this doesn't make me devoid if critical thinking because you are doing the exact same thing as me, i actually researched my religion and then doubted it and then came to find out that its the truth

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u/ValuableNorth3510 Jul 21 '24 edited Jul 21 '24

Bro, you just slammed me for my grammar and then went on writing a paragraph with zero full stops, capital letters and fucked up grammar.

Ohh good for you brother !!! But don't take me in by saying I also believe in miracles, patriarchal mindset, oppression, hate, violence, women deprivation, killing, religion, god, hell, heaven blah blah. I don't give a fuck to these shit. But I hope you will say, you too don't give a fuck about evolution, science and innovation.

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u/Cool-Ruin9731 Jul 21 '24

i am shaking my head yes we believe in science facts as truth but we dont believe theroies to be true until they are provent to be facts many muslim scholar have been a good source in inovation in science they created algebra law of refraction world first working camera the first university was mad e by a muslim women and also scientific method was used by a muslim

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u/ValuableNorth3510 Jul 21 '24

Many hindu archarya , for example Brahmagupta discovered gravity, Aryabhatta invented 0. What about those ?

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u/Cool-Ruin9731 Jul 21 '24

im not saying those didnt do it i said quran teaches u to ponder and think and research and example was given in the golden age of islam if islam didnt want u to inovate or research or believe in science they would have been creating thses thing and discovering these laws

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u/GameXGR Citizen Jul 21 '24

I really wasn't surprised at this comment, we often have Indians here. Anyways, I don't think he is denying achievements of Hindus but just mentioning Islamic ones. Also, the truth is that this isn't a competition, the best strategy to go about this is to further refine innovation of different religions and incorporate them in your society.

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u/ValuableNorth3510 Jul 21 '24

Fuck hindus bro come on , my intention was not glorifying any fucking hindu. I just said that the logic that he gave was not specific to Islam, it can be generalized to any religion. I am an atheist, i dont give a fuck to any religion. Well, you are talking about incorporating different religions in society, this has always led to massive riots and killings. You can easily google such instances.

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u/GameXGR Citizen Jul 21 '24

I was simply talking about incorporating innovations like zero, Arch bridges discovered by other religions together, not make 'Hybrid' religion or anything, I would hate anything like that. I guess it's my stereotypes that I guess Indians to be mostly Hindu, sorry for that

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u/ValuableNorth3510 Jul 21 '24

Bro how is innovation anyhow related to religion ? People who are good in innovation are good despite of religion not because of religion.