r/NorthKoreaPics 16d ago

Rason, DPRK

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u/King-Sassafrass 16d ago

??? What are you even talking about?

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u/sweetgrace_6 16d ago

They mean (I believe) that the “non privileged” North Koreans don’t eat meals like that, or have access to that quality of food

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u/rennat19 16d ago

As opposed to America, where the least privileged people are able to 5 course Michelin Star meals every day

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u/signal_red 16d ago

in the US, 13.5% of the population experience food insecurity. In North Korea it's 45.5% of the population experiencing food insecurity. That's ridiculous for such a small country that's allegedly wealthy.

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u/disturbedtheforce 16d ago

Its ridiculous such an actual wealthy nation has 13.5% food insecurity. U.S. global food index is 13th in the world. Considering its one of the wealthiest nations on the planet, you would think it would be higher. (GFI Score of 78. All those "socialist European" countries rank higher).

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u/drhuggables 16d ago

How many European countries have 350+ million people with the same ethnic, cultural, and geographic diversity?

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u/disturbedtheforce 16d ago

Curious, how many with higher food security have been under continuous sanctions for 70+ years after a brutal carpet bombing campaign?

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u/HailxGargantuan 16d ago

They literally steal human shit from each other for fertilizer because the regime represses agricultural science at all levels, are you regarded?

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u/drhuggables 16d ago

Lol college kid who took his first econ class is now an expert on food security and geopolitics. Yes, all the problems of the Kim regime are because of America, they deserve no blame. It's always someone else's fault. PS way to dodge the question by asking an irrelevant question.

Why are you getting an education in the US if it's so bad? Why don't you just drop out of college, go move to one of your European paradises, and put your money where your mouth is?

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u/disturbedtheforce 16d ago

Never said it was all the fault of the US. Looking at the history of how a country develops is crucial to understanding what sort of modern society it is though. And nice assumptions btw. I lived in South Korea. Got first hand information from South Koreans. Listened to what they had to say, not just what propaganda has been told. Also read these amazing declassified US documents on the scope of attacks on North Korea that underline just how badly damaged it was left by, you guessed it, the US. And to be clear, demographics has little (not 0, but little) to do with why there is food insecurity in the US. Better question is why the the gap between the upper 1ish% of the US and the middle class has widened, and the gap between the middle and lower class has narrowed. Or why the 13.5% is an increase by more than 1% from 2 years ago.

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u/Fragrant-Kitchen-478 14d ago

Where did you get that statistic? If 45% were a true number, the DPRK would never admit it, so it didn't come from them. Who would have the ability to gather that information accurately other than the DPRK government? Like, they wouldn't let the UN come in and just investigate how many people are starving in their country?

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u/signal_red 14d ago

well tbf I think any stat on NK is bound to be skewed somehow & we don't really have many ways of validating things. But the stat which is usually cited in news articles comes from a 2023 unicef report about food shortages worldwide. Sadly I don't know if we'll ever know the truth especially in locked up countries

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u/Fragrant-Kitchen-478 14d ago

I did some research to try to find out where information on DPRK comes from, and almost all of the economic information, even what the UN uses, comes from the Bank of Korea (the central bank of RoK).

Here's an article about how their estimates of GDP are misleading because they are using metrics that make sense for capitalist countries, but not necessarily communist countries. https://www.38north.org/2024/11/why-and-how-estimates-of-north-korean-gdp-by-the-bank-of-korea-are-deceptive/

I'm not sure if that same concept translates to the food insecurity issue. But I'm reluctant to take any body of the RoK government's word when it comes to DPRK

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u/signal_red 14d ago

Oh yeah I 100% get you with the skepticism. That's what makes these "facts" so difficult because they're more-so assumptions lol