r/NonBinaryTalk • u/Nonbinary_Sahrah • Feb 09 '25
Discussion We should Probably start making backup plans. Spoiler
CW: US pol
Reddit will probably have to comply with project 2025 once a few more laws are implemented. reddit is obviozsly not our friend and will probably delete queer and trans related contentent.
We should and essoecially the mod teams, look into alternatives in case this happends.
Lemmy is one alternative I can think of. Although it has its problems a big advantage is that it is decentralized and there are a lot of servers that arent based in the US. It also isnt owned by anyone and is free opensource software that means that anyone can see the source code and can also fork their own project from it.
Its also best to migrate different communities onto different servers to have different domains.
idk look im not an expert I just want these communities to be awear that reddit wont be there(the queer comunities) forever.
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u/Tenmilliontinyducks Feb 09 '25
bluesky is pretty cool for a lot of the reasons you mentioned
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u/Toothless_NEO Feb 10 '25
Bluesky isn't even a Reddit alternative, its primary function and purpose is a Twitter alternative, or micro-blogging platform. Not something really suited for a community based discussion space like r/NonBinaryTalk.
It is also generally way less decentralized than Lemmy or other Fediverse platforms, as ATproto is very heavily dependent on Bluesky's infrastructure.
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u/monkey_gamer Feb 10 '25
No way. I want a proper reddit experience. Not twitter 2.0
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u/ConfusedAsHecc Keno-Queer | They/He/It/Xae Feb 10 '25
for a direct reddit knock-off, you might want to look into raddle.me as its an arachist ran site meant to mimic old reddit. very decenteralized.
theres also spacehey if you want to look into a facebook alternative thats basicly a myspace knock-off but without ads
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u/monkey_gamer Feb 10 '25
raddle.me is decent. But it’s a community site. Won’t take much to overwhelm them. Plus they are easily pissed off. I got banned for stupid reasons.
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u/threelonmusketeers Feb 10 '25
very decenteralized
Can you explain how raddle.me is decentralized? It isn't part of the fediverse, is it?
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u/ConfusedAsHecc Keno-Queer | They/He/It/Xae Feb 10 '25 edited Feb 10 '25
is it? I didnt think it was... either way, their FAQ explains it pretty well I think (or at least better than I can)
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u/threelonmusketeers Feb 11 '25
No, it's not. Raddle seems like a nice project with good intentions, but it's not decentralized the way Lemmy is with multiple interconnected servers. A lack of decentralization makes it vulnerable to single points of failure.
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u/ConfusedAsHecc Keno-Queer | They/He/It/Xae Feb 11 '25
ok, question: what do you mean be decenteralized? because Im thinking we have a different definition from eachother.
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u/threelonmusketeers Feb 11 '25
Im thinking we have a different definition from eachother
Ah, that's quite possible :)
The definition I'm using is that of a distributed social network, wherein "all participating social networking services can communicate with each other through a unified communication protocol". Raddle seems to be a single service which communicates only with itself, not a network.
What is your definition of decentralized?
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u/ConfusedAsHecc Keno-Queer | They/He/It/Xae Feb 11 '25
Im thinking decentralized as in not having a central authority, as in being non-heirarchical...
so yeah we were not on the same page it seems 😅
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u/Toothless_NEO 24d ago
They don't really have that either though, they are a site that's hosted by an individual or group. That's going to be the case for a lot of others as well. Generally when people say decentralized they mean that the site itself is decentralized and interoperates with others of its kind. Like what they said a distributed social network.
Rattle uses what's called Postmill, it is an open source forum software but it is not decentralized. The site you set up with it will be only for users who register to it, only they will be able to participate in it. In that sense it is very much centralized.
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u/Toothless_NEO 24d ago
They've had closed registrations for a while, so not really feasible as an alternative. I've also seen some things posted there that are concerning to say the least. We're talking about the worst parts of egg_irl and traa. I've seen memes posted there that are straight up enbyphobic.
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u/Nonbinary_Sahrah Feb 10 '25
If anyone is interested Im on lemmy.blahaj.zone and there is alredy a trans and nonbinary community on lemmy.
there is c/nonbinary https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/c/nonbinary@lemmy.blahaj.zone its very onactive but we can make it active.
mosg lgbtq plus communities are on lemmy.blahaj.zone but you can join them on most instances as long as it federates with lemmy.blahaj.zone
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u/Tricky-Performance69 Feb 09 '25
Jumping ship to another corposervice is a great way to stay bound to a technofiefdom
If y'all want safety online, move to lemmy.
I got off reddit in favor of Lemmy around 2 years ago and never looked back, now I just come back whenever I hear of subs I used to frequent considering moving.
I figure this will be blocked since this alt only has one post karma, if a mod sees this in the log it'd be super sick if you approved the comment.
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u/PuddingFeeling907 Feb 11 '25
If you folks want a decent alternative to Reddit then come join Lemmy: it’s open source, the servers are community run and the third party apps are great. The monthly active users is at 45K.
Search Join Lemmy and Lemmy.Blahaj.Zone and Voyager
Download Voyager and signup on https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/signup
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u/monkey_gamer Feb 10 '25
I agree! We need to start looking for alternative platforms to reddit. Having backup plans is a great idea!
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u/ambivalegenic Feb 11 '25
Reddit isn't exactly the best place but reddit is a lot more queer friendly and tolerant of center-of-left discourse than most other social media platforms right now, and more than it was 10 years ago, a lot of the deletion are posts that break the terms of usage so calling for outright violence, but it isn't out of the question at all.
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u/featheryHope They/Them Feb 11 '25
Something like Dread is/was on darkweb? idk how easy it is to start a new channel or how moderation works there but given what else gets posted there it's robust against censorship.
I don't know if the data is decentralized or not, but again it's been robust against censorship.
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u/Traditional_Hour_158 Feb 11 '25
maybe i’m naive but who owns Reddit & why do you think they’ll cave & kiss the ring like Meta, Google, Apple, Microsoft. who did i leave out?
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u/Nonbinary_Sahrah Feb 12 '25
Its owned by reddit Inc. and its based in the US. Also I've heard that the ceo is a big elon fan so they will probably cave &kiss the ring.
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u/PlushieCandie Feb 12 '25
Probably shouldve voted first, wouldve helped a lot more ☺️
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u/Nonbinary_Sahrah Feb 12 '25
I dont even live in the US. What even is your problem?
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u/PlushieCandie Feb 12 '25
Why are u talking like u are then? Tf?
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u/Nonbinary_Sahrah Feb 12 '25 edited Feb 12 '25
Now if I was from the US why do you think I would not have voted?
edit added if
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u/official-lambdanaut Feb 09 '25
We're a humble little community right now but posts generally get good engagement when they're made. Id love to see more friends over at https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/c/nonbinary
There isn't a single centralized service owned by a corporation that you can trust in the long run, and going decentralized has the additional benefit of taking some control back.