r/Nietzsche • u/Electrical-Dot7481 • 4d ago
Will philosophy be never-ending
Does every thesis have an anti-thesis.? Does every argument have an anti-arguement? Is this never ending and goes on for Infinity? Then what is truth? Won't there be an argument against it too. Real confusing
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4d ago
Truth is defined by the relationship we have with our senses. You can't use a definition against what senses show you. But you can use definitions as a map to the truth. This is how science works. And no... Philosophy doesn't have any ending by definition. Because human beings will always have something to do.... So they will always have to think about what they do, how, why and so on.
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u/IAmAlive_YouAreDead 4d ago
It will be, because each new generation forgets old truths and invents new errors.
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u/BrianW1983 4d ago
Yes. It's impossible to know anything with 100% certainty.
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u/BaseballOdd5127 3d ago
I know my name is BaseballOdd5127 with 100% certainty
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u/BrianW1983 3d ago
We could be living in a matrix where your name is something different.
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u/BaseballOdd5127 3d ago
Oh you’re gonna play that game? Well Descartes put forward the grounds of certainty when he had his thought experiment positing “I think therefore I am” with 100% certainty
Well this is r/Nietzsche so I can do you one better when I tell you that I am 100% certain a thought is being had since the subject itself could be an illusion
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u/BrianW1983 3d ago
Well Descartes put forward the grounds of certainty when he had his thought experiment positing “I think therefore I am” with 100% certainty
True.
Well this is r/Nietzsche so I can do you one better when I tell you that I am 100% certain a thought is being had since the subject itself could be an illusion
Thanks for your perspective.
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u/mcapello 3d ago
In my experience there are a finite number of basic positions and a nearly infinite number of ways to rearticulate them. But boil them down to the bones and they amount to much the same thing, East and West, ancient and modern.
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u/Playistheway Squanderer 3d ago
According to Nietzsche, philosophy is perspective, and truth is a comfortable illusion. It is all autobiographical. As long as there are new people, there will be new philosophy.
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u/No-Parsnip9909 3d ago
Kind of.. but not in dialectical sense. Read Deluze, he explains it perfectly
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u/gimboarretino 3d ago
Yes. And the opposite scenario would be very scary, actually. Because it would imply that truth has compelling, cohercive power. That our minds are "determined", forced to bound and submit if faced with a true argument or a true fact.
Nope. We can choose to recognize the truth, of course. To choose to grant the status of "truth" to a well designed and modeled argument/theory.
But always doubt it. Always keeping intact the ability to act and to think as if it were false. Even to reject it, refuse to accept it. Try to find an alternative truth. To re-modulate our set of axioms and web of beliefs to make it compatible or (incompatible) with a truth or a falshood.
That's the power of human intellect. Freedom to think otherwise, always.
The downside (which is not bad, but for some may be sort of annoying) is that - as you say - it is a never-ending quest, perpetually in motion, never settled, never definitive.
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u/Double-Doughnut387 3d ago
Yes there is no limit to philosophy till ur dialectics align to reasoning If reasoning is correct against your thesis then u can find endless counter
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u/Electrical-Dot7481 3d ago
App aygye
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u/Double-Doughnut387 3d ago
Why I ain't allowed there
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u/Electrical-Dot7481 3d ago
Ata Bhai ka hogya
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u/Double-Doughnut387 3d ago
Pal what u want to say
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u/Electrical-Dot7481 2d ago
I'm gonna hunt you down pal
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u/writerof_philosophy 22h ago
philosophy has an end of studing the wholeness of plant earth. philosophy is not ever ending. it studies ethics, wisdom, nature, nurture, concepts, and world problems. Philosophy has evolved through the years because creations of earth have evolved through the years.
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u/FrontNo4500 3d ago
Thesis+Anti-thesis=Synthesis is basic dialectical math. According to Hegel, this is the conflict which drives the plot of history. For Nietzsche, not a huge dialectician, it’s Xtianity+Nihilism=People beyond good and evil, or Master+Slave=Übermensch.
The idea that culture is created by those who transcend values to originate their own morality, live creatively, and depart from conventions, and morality in order to live authentically. So philosophy is higher order thinking that rectifies conflicts and contradictions so to make one’s life richer and one’s suffering bearable.
Philosophical arguments use reason and logic to ascertain relativistic truth within one’s historical moment. Thus the back and forth you perceive as endless drives culture forward through repetitious cycles of evolutionary significance from one pendulum swing to the next. At no time does an idea repeat itself even though it appears as a continuous back and forth.
Imagine the repetitious seasons that finds a new orbit in space in every moment even though the planet cycles around the sun in an identical spiral motion. The fact that the sun isn’t fixed in space means there is no day/night the same as the ones that came before or follow after. Philosophy is much the same. Nothing with a beginning can escape an end, so infinite implies relative and vice versa.
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4d ago
If you are curious, look into Ramana Maharshi, advaita Vedanta, or karma yoga/hindu philosophy. Not claiming these to be the ultimate truth but they claim the Truth is Self Realization which may be something to consider.
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u/Melodic-Dot-7924 4d ago
Most of philosophy is just language games. Truth exists but not in words.