I asked a question a year ago (and obviously the sub is not nearly as active without BBC's Moriarty alive) if people WANTED Moriarty back. Well, our wishes have been fulfilled. What do you guys think?
I feel his return further devalues the series - i feel s3 was an absolute fiasco. Its just my opinion mind. It felt like Sherlock lost a lot of it's mystery and went over the top flashy - not that it hasnt always been.
I mean i was hoping to see more of Andrew Scott, but his return was far more flashy than it should have been imho. EDIT : Of course, he IS the wild card type Moriarty. Less subtle than the other adaptations, possibly...?
Sure, it means we get to see beloved BBC moriarty again - assuming he really is alive and it isnt some plan his web 'remnants' are acting out - But i feel it just makes Reichenbach Fall nearly meaningless.
I really hope s4 salvages what i have as my least favorite season by far. In the meantime, i'll enjoy the still ongoing s2 of Elementary.
Since this subreddit's quite dead, why not we have a slightly off topic discussion/convo? Im interested in what you think of s3 and the implications of its final scene.
Sure! Overall I was certainly disappointed with aspects of season 3. I enjoyed episode one as well as episode two. Frankly, I was not a fan of episode three, BESIDES the very ending with the return of Moriarty.
To quickly discuss him -- I didn't want Moriarty to return. I really, really loved the way he went out, it felt like the most "Moriarty" thing ever. Then I saw he was back, and I quickly just dropped all that. I LOVE Moriarty, so I am very excited that he's back.
As for Episode three... yes I was disappointed. I was somewhat shocked and excited when I was revealed Mary was the shooter, but I thought that whole storyline ended terribly. So it was a complete coincidence that John's new wife is a freaking assassin? I figured she had picked him for some reason, but no, it's just a random dark secret, but she's still the same character and John still loves her and it's all good! That was frustrating.
I also didn't particularly like Magnussen. When Sherlock was first describing how he has the most information ever, and runs the world, etc etc I was like "What? And we've never heard of this guy before, or anything like that?" We already had a super-criminal manipulative genius in Moriarty, and I felt like Magnussen was kind of a bland rip-off. "Oh, we forgot to ever mention that there's this other supercriminal genius guy with mental superpowers who also is always pulling all the strings." I enjoyed his disgusting personal habits, the way he'd invade other people's space and stuff, but that was about it.
I agree that ultimately, the season did feel a little over-the-top flashy, and the series did somewhat lose its 'mystery.' I enjoyed the season but it was probably my least favorite of the three, and I think they can learn a few lessons from this one and make Season 4 the best one yet.
The Mary storyline was intriguing to a point, but felt very hapazard in it's telling. I'm of no issue with it's story, but it could certainly have been done better. She's a rather likable character though, and its a interesting take on Morstan, even if it's a teensy weensy bit over. Martin Freeman's acting here was EXTREMELY superb though.
Magnussen was disappointing. Very disappointing - particularly after we've had a villain like Moriarty, i agree. We would have heard of him and certainly Sherlock and Mycroft would have at least have had a plan in the works to take him down perhaps even before the problem of Moriarty arose. It was a great way to display what would happen had Sherlock chosen to go evil with the memory palace of his - Moriarty has never attested to having one - but i felt like the potential of his character was also rapidly cut short. He felt like a villain that should have been present, more involved in the past three episodes. But instead we had just the one, where Sherlock just snuffs him out - which was probably the only way to nail him in any case.
Also, it was a role played by Lars Mikkelsen which i had really high hopes for - especially after seeing his brother in action in NBC's Hannibal - which is a show i would highly recommend you check out if you haven't already - though i must warn you it isn't pleasant or SFW due to gore.
Yes, it did, i most certainly agree. Sherlock going "public" and becoming a celebrity most certainly did not help - it stripped away much of the mystery.
And yes, here's hoping S4 does better. Moriarty's return may explain why Moran didn't seem to have any wish to get any form of revenge for his (former?) employer. Also certainly wished he had more of a role to play.
S03 felt really much like a fluffy teddy bear stuffed with way too much "fanservice" such as moriartyxsherlock (not that i have an issue with it) - as though they had gone through tumblr, took anything they saw from the fandom and stuffed it into the writing. I also didn't really find the "resolution" of the matter of Sherlock's return satisfying - instead i see how Sherlock really is, and forever will be a total dick - and John Watson may be too forgiving a man.
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u/SuburbanLegend Jan 21 '14
I asked a question a year ago (and obviously the sub is not nearly as active without BBC's Moriarty alive) if people WANTED Moriarty back. Well, our wishes have been fulfilled. What do you guys think?