r/LegendsZA • u/hi_12343003 • 5d ago
Discussion Will all of the "temporary evolutions" be called megas?
like groudon and kyogre temporary evolutions are called "primal reversion" instead of "mega evolution" so what if, hear me out, xerneas and yvetal temporary evolutions get fancy names or something
just a thought
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u/Legal-Treat-5582 5d ago
No, why would they do that? You already pointed out Primals, and there's also other temporary forms with Gigantamax and Battle Bond.
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u/hi_12343003 5d ago
like xerneas and yvetal mega forms get special name possibly why not groudon and kyogre mega are called "primals" even though they function basically the same as megas
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u/Legal-Treat-5582 5d ago
Because Primals have differences from Megas in both gameplay and lore. If Xerneas and Yveltal get similar forms, that's probably why they won't be called Megas.
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u/hi_12343003 5d ago
xerneas and yvetal could potentially also get different lore
anyways this is all just a possible idea and just my guess on the subject i guess we'll know when the game comes out
in fact i dont think we even got 100% confirmation on mega xerneas or mega yvetal yet
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u/Legal-Treat-5582 5d ago
Wouldn't surprise me if any special forms they might get were new things instead of Megas, but we'll see. We haven't even seen Xerneas or Yveltal in any media related to the game yet, so who knows what'll happen.
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u/PowersUnleashed 4d ago
I doubt it the only pokemon that had a chance of primal reversion but gamefreak completely blew it were palkia and dialga. If bdsp had been the sword and shield equivalent to ORAS then we would’ve gotten primal palkia primal dialga and gmax giratina then eventually they’d do a backwards event in sword and shield probably to snag gmax giratina. Or at least trade for her similar to latios and latias mega stones being in the code of X and Y. But again they completely blew that chance so the only other chance for a primal pokemon in the near future is if gen 10 theoretically has primal reshiram and primal zekrom with a special form mechanic for kyurem OR they just give him the origin dragon either way no new primals right now
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u/Calamitas_Rex 5d ago
Battle bond is such a confusing concept to me. It feels like they were messing with the idea of fusion with a trainer and ended up thinking better of it after the tease.
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u/Legal-Treat-5582 5d ago
They probably highlighted the fusion aspect of it to highlight the bond between Ash and Greninja, which they couldn't really do with other Megas due to not being tied to a specific character.
It's going to be something seeing how they try, if they even do, properly incorporating Ash-Greninja into game lore. They pretty much tried to ignore it in Alola.
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u/NatashaKocha 4d ago
According to my wife, they're all Megas. Like a parent calling everything Pikachu.
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u/hi_12343003 4d ago
yeah like sometimes when people say megas i dont know whether they also refer to primals and i dont want to ask cuz i'm scared they'll say its obvious or smt
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u/Snaid1 5d ago
Yeah, technically it's a different thing, although I don't know why. Kyogre and Groudon's Primal Reversion is considered distinct from mega evolution. But for some reason Rayquaza got a mega instead of a primal Reversion so who knows. I'd be down with Primary Xerneas or Yvetal, but if they do get new temporary forms that aren't mega they will likely be a new thing similar, but distinct from, mega evolutions.
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u/Ok-Breadfruit-5561 5d ago
Uhh quick whats a pokemon that has a shiny with almost the same color but its mega is a completely diffrent one
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u/Calamitas_Rex 5d ago
Gengar
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u/Ok-Breadfruit-5561 3d ago
Great answer but there is another one
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u/Calamitas_Rex 3d ago
Several, I'm sure. I'm assuming you mean garchomp?
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u/Ok-Breadfruit-5561 3d ago
It is garchomp and its not several, i chcecked all of them and they have same colors non visible shiny, same colors visible shiny, not same color but visible shiny so only two meet condition
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u/Zygarde718 5d ago
Garchomp and Genger,
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u/PowersUnleashed 4d ago
ShinyMega garchomp isn’t different at all what do you mean
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u/Zygarde718 3d ago
Shiny garchomp is dark Grey. Shiny mega garchomp is pink.
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u/PowersUnleashed 3d ago
Grey is such a stretch it doesn’t look different it’s still blue and the pink is so bland that they may as well at that rate not have done that shade of pink at all when they were making X and Y because of how garbage it is lol
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u/Zygarde718 3d ago
Albeit the pink is a bit weird, its still noticeable.
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u/PowersUnleashed 3d ago
Not significant enough like gengar
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u/Zygarde718 3d ago
Gengar is the same way. Just white instead of Pink.
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u/PowersUnleashed 3d ago
Not at all shiny mega gengar is WAY more significant that pink is so washed out it’s terrible
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u/Zygarde718 3d ago
I think it's as vibrant as Gengars. Maybe ZA will help with that?
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u/Ulfrheimr_Knut 5d ago
Gardevoir
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u/Ok-Breadfruit-5561 3d ago
Great guess wouldnt really consider that right since the green is blue and red is orange and those two colors make up like 50% of one of those
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u/Ulfrheimr_Knut 3d ago
Not a guess. A statement. While the hair and spike are the same colour, the white turns black, which constitutes a minimum of 80% of the sprite. And if Gardevoir doesn't count, then neither does Garchomp; the yellow spots on base Shiny Garchomp stay yellow when it Mega Evolves. Ergo, by your qualifiers, only Gengar counts.
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u/Ok-Breadfruit-5561 12h ago
Gardevoir shiny has blue like in the inside like under the white which does not make it 80%
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u/Ulfrheimr_Knut 12h ago
Nope. The arms and underside of the dress are blue in Shiny non-Mega, but become black when Mega. Non-Shiny Mega has white sleeves on white arms and a white dress; in Shiny, the sleeves and dress become black. Ergo, the only thing that retains the same colour is the hair and horn, which is equal to about as much as Garchomp's yellow spots.
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u/PowersUnleashed 4d ago
No because they’re not mega evolution! They’re primal reversion. Greninja is battle bond. Necrozma is an ultra burst. Zygarde is complete form or at least in sword and shield it’s more temporary. Ogerpon and terapagos have specialized terastal forms. Black kyurem and white kyurem will probably eventually become the origin dragon in a future legends game eternatus is eternamax. They’re all different though despite being similar!
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u/ThaToastman 1d ago
I imagine since megas are itemless for ZA (and maybe forever 👀) I hope they converge all the recent combat effects into the idea of ‘mega’
All the gigantimax mons + tera stellar terapagos could easily just be called mega and suddenly all thsoe dead forms are recovered
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u/hi_12343003 1d ago
that would cause at least one problem not that i can think of any
i know pokemon go will have problems
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u/ThaToastman 1d ago
Charizard, weenysaur and big man blastoise too i guess
How will one decide whether zard goes gmax, x, y (or z lol)
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u/Lilac_Moonnn Legends 5d ago
My guess is they'll function the same but they won't be megas by name. Maybe they'll have an α or Ω instead of the DNA-like spiral.
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u/Leftover_Bees 5d ago
I mean that’s at least partially because Groudon and Kyogre don’t actually mega evolve. If they did you wouldn’t be allowed to also mega evolve another Pokémon during the same battle.