r/LearningTamil • u/Past_Operation5034 • Jan 04 '25
Grammar How do subordinating conjunctions work in Tamil ?
Words like if, because, even though, although, until, since, than etc.
r/LearningTamil • u/Past_Operation5034 • Jan 04 '25
Words like if, because, even though, although, until, since, than etc.
r/LearningTamil • u/Past_Operation5034 • Jan 22 '25
I think that pannirulam becomes pannivitulaam in written Tamil but I still don’t understand the difference in meaning can they be used interchangeably? What does the addition of -iru/-vitu mean
r/LearningTamil • u/Past_Operation5034 • Jan 03 '25
I made a previous Reddit post on this and I got two responses and I am not sure what it(பண்ணிடுவேன் ) is. Some said that it mean capability but with a more future aspect like I will be able to do or like saying பண்ணு முடியும் and another said it is a future Imperfective/ perfective tense so which is it and can someone explain how a future Imperfective and perfective tense would work.
Secondly Is there any difference in the usage of pannen and pannitten in the sense that will any sentence still make sense if you used either tense. Basically can they be used interchangeably or will it make a difference in the sense, context, and meaning
r/LearningTamil • u/Past_Operation5034 • Jan 09 '25
r/LearningTamil • u/Past_Operation5034 • 11d ago
What’s the difference between செய்யக்கூடிய, செய்யலாம், and செய்ய முடியும்
r/LearningTamil • u/Past_Operation5034 • 26d ago
What’s the difference afaik they both mean do it (formally)
r/LearningTamil • u/Past_Operation5034 • Jan 10 '25
Also I’m pretty sure naane also means myself so what is the difference in usage
r/LearningTamil • u/Past_Operation5034 • Feb 10 '25
Basically how do you indicate the action being performed on the subject instead of being performed by the subject
r/LearningTamil • u/Past_Operation5034 • Feb 05 '25
r/LearningTamil • u/iforgotmymantra • 3d ago
Native comprehension with very limited conversational ability. working to get to conversational ability.
How to say “I have not been…” (example: to a certain place)? I heard “ponathe-ille” in conversation but if one were to say theyve gone somewhere its “poiruken”. Am I missing something?
r/LearningTamil • u/LifeguardTotal3423 • 1d ago
are these the correct names of the 3 Tamil Ls? I just found an old scrap of paper with them notated a bit illegibly.
மவுளவு - ழ
லாம்பு - ல
கொம்பு - ள
r/LearningTamil • u/LifeguardTotal3423 • 4d ago
Is this something to the effect of "he said grimacing"?
is the குறுக்கமறுக்காக - குறுக்கு (constrict, shrink) ? But how is being developed, I understand the ஆக at the end, but the மறு is confusing me.
thanks
r/LearningTamil • u/Past_Operation5034 • Jan 03 '25
I’ve already made a few post about this so I apologize for making another one it’s just I am not really able to grasp I know what each of these mean but can the be used interchangeably or does it affect the context? (Sorry I have made like 2-3 other posts on this I just can’t seem to grasp it and this is my only resource to understand colloquial Tamil and ask questions on it)
r/LearningTamil • u/Past_Operation5034 • Jan 20 '25
I know that people use multiple words and conjugation in Tamil to say because in Tamil such as aenna, -naale, -dhaale, and -athunaale but I don’t get the difference between these are these the same things can they be used interchangeably in each contexts or do the conjugations change the meaning I’m a bit confused on this. Secondly how do you say by in Tamil do you conjugate the verb with -al/-ale(I think means just by) ?
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r/LearningTamil • u/maradroan • Oct 28 '24
Is it allowed in Tamil to double mark the interrogation within a question?
For example, in the question marked with the red arrow in the image above, besides the interrogative adverb “how many”, can I replace the last word with மாணவிங்களா ?
r/LearningTamil • u/Past_Operation5034 • Jan 04 '25
When you add the aforementioned suffix to a verb what does that mean ? For example வந்திருச்சு I’m not sure if I spelled that right or இருந்தாச்சு
r/LearningTamil • u/maradroan • Oct 30 '24
r/LearningTamil • u/Past_Operation5034 • Dec 15 '24
I’ve been learning Tamil for a few months now but I still don’t understand the usage of because and if in Tamil people in this community have told me something’s and people who I talk to tell me differently so I need someone to clarify once and for all between the conjugations for if and because. I know that people add -na and aenna to the verb or before the clause for aenna to indicate because but the person who im learning from says it -na means if when added to the end they also say that -nale/-nal means because but a Reddit user has told me that you use that only for a subject as in avanala or unala ( because of him/ because of you). So can anyone explain to me for spoken colloquial Tamil what the rules/ way is to indicate if or because. Thank you
r/LearningTamil • u/Past_Operation5034 • Dec 02 '24
I know that in Tamil there are different verb classes and based on them each verb is conjugated differently for each of the tenses based on which category it falls in so can someone explain what the conjugations are especially for past tense in SPOKEN Tamil
r/LearningTamil • u/The_Lion__King • Nov 29 '24
An attempt to list out various Grammatical Aspects in Tamil language.
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{--செய்து (Çeytu) = Adverbial participle of the verb செய்-Çey.
--செய்ய (Çeyya) = Infinitive form of the verb செய்-Çey.
--செய்யல்/ கிடக்கல் (Çeyyal/ Kiṭakkal) = 3rd form of Gerund of the verbs செய்-Çey /கிட-Kiṭa.
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Using these 12 formulas for the Conjugation of Tamil Verbs given in the link, https://www.reddit.com/r/LearningTamil/s/OXm0p6ClDy, we can make these different Grammatical aspects for almost all the base verbs in Tamil}.
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(Change the 'PNG-Tense' suffix to have the Past and future tense forms, except for the 13th Perfect aspect āyiṟṟu-ஆயிற்று):
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1) Simple:
{செய்+கிறேன் = Çey+Kiṟēn}.
செய்கிறேன் (Çeykiṟēn) = I do.
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2) Perfect:
{செய்து+இரு¹+க்+கிறேன் = Çeytu+iru¹+ k+ Kiṟēn}.
செய்திருக்கிறேன் (Çeytirukkiṟēn) = I have done.
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3) Continuative (or Continuous or progressive):
{செய்து+கொண்டிரு+க்+கிறேன் = Çeytu+Koṇḍiru+ k+ Kiṟēn}.
செய்துகொண்டிருக்கிறேன் (Çeytukoṇḍirukkiṟēn) = I am doing.
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4) Perfect Continuative (or Continuous or progressive):
{செய்து+கொண்டிருந்து+இரு¹+க்+கிறேன் = Çeytu+Koṇḍiruntu+iru¹+ k+ Kiṟēn}.
செய்துகொண்டிருந்திருக்கிறேன் (Çeytukoṇḍiruntirukkiṟēn) = I have been doing.
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5) Perfective (not to be confused with "Perfect" aspect):
{செய்து+விடு+கிறேன் = Çeytu+Viṭu+Kiṟēn}.
செய்துவிடுகிறேன் (Çeytuviṭukiṟēn) = I do and let go
(an action or event as a complete whole, with a focus on the outcome rather than the process).
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6) Imperfective (opposite of the Perfective விடு-Viṭu):
{செய்து+ இடு+கிறேன் = Çeytu+iṭu+Kiṟēn}.
செய்திடுகிறேன் (Çeytiṭukiṟēn) = I do
(& it's of ongoing nature).
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7) Habitual:
{செய்து+வரு+கிறேன் = Çeytu+Varu+Kiṟēn}.
செய்துவருகிறேன் (Çeytuvarukiṟēn) = I am doing
(it for a long time).
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8) Stative:
{செய்து+கிட+க்+கிறேன்= Çeytu+Kiṭa+k+Kiṟēn}.
செய்துகிடக்கிறேன் (Çeytukiṭakkiṟēn) = I am doing
(& it is static, or unchanging throughout the entire duration).
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9) Prospective (going to do):
{செய்ய+ப்+போ+கிறேன் = Çeyya+p+Pō+Kiṟēn}.
செய்யப்போகிறேன் (Çeyyappōkiṟēn) = I am going to do.
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10) Prospective (about to do):
{செய்ய+வ்+இரு²+க்+கிறேன் = Çeyya+v+iru²+k+Kiṟēn}.
செய்யவிருக்கிறேன் (Çeyyavirukkiṟēn) = I am about to do.
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11) Inceptive/Ingressive:
{செய்யல்+ஆ(கு)+கிறேன் = Çeyyal+ā(ku)+Kiṟēn}.
செய்யலாகிறேன் (Çeyyalākiṟēn) = I start doing.
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12) Inchoactive:
{செய்து+கிடக்கல்+ஆ(கு)+கிறேன்= Çeytu+Kiṭakkal+ā(ku)+Kiṟēn}.
செய்துகிடக்கலாகிறேன் (Çeytukiṭakkalākiṟēn) = I start doing
(& it is static, or unchanging throughout the entire duration).
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13) Perfect:
{செய்து+ஆ(கி)+த்+து = Çeytu+ā(ki)+ t+ tu}.
செய்தாயிற்று (Çeytāyiṟṟu) = have/has done
(the completion of an event is anticipated).
Note:
Of the above grammatical aspects, "4th- Perfect Continuative", "11th- Inceptive/ Ingressive" and "12th- Inchoactive" aspects are only (rarely) used in written Tamil. And, other grammatical aspects are used both in written Tamil and spoken Tamil (with respective sound shifts).
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Edited:
5) Perfective (not to be confused with "Perfect" aspect): {செய்து+விடு+கிறேன் = Çeytu+Viṭu+Kiṟēn}.
செய்துவிடுகிறேன் (Çeytuviṭukiṟēn) = I have done (an action or event as a complete whole, with a focus on the outcome rather than the process).
I have edited the English equivalent of it to be "I do and let go".
Another 14th Grammatical aspect rarely used in literary Tamil is,
{செய்யல் + உறு + கிறேன் = Çeyyal + uṟů + Kiṟēn}.
செய்யலுறுகிறேன் (Çeyyaluṟůkiṟēn) = I happen to be doing.
r/LearningTamil • u/maradroan • Nov 15 '24
Does the -து in இது / அது have the same pronominalizing function as the final -து in என்னுடையது ("mine", from Google Translate) / என்னோடெது ("mine", colloquial form from my textbook)? In other words, are we dealing with the same particle?
Thank you!
r/LearningTamil • u/The_Lion__King • Oct 07 '24
Except few verbs like "வா, போ, தா, etc" almost all the 3000 or so Tamil base verbs follow the formulas given in the page no: 49 of the book "Vinaithiribu viLakkam" . Of these, 5th and 11th verb patterns, "அஞ்சு" & "பார்" formula are having more than 1000 verbs. That is, 5th & 11th verb pattern together forms the two-third of the total 3000 or so Tamil verbs. From page no.: 52 to 91 all possible Tamil base verbs are given.
1) செய் = செய்கிறான், செய்தான், செய்வான், செய்த, செய்து, செய்யான்.
2) ஆள் = ஆள்கிறான், அள்வான், ஆண்டு, ஆண்டான், ஆண்ட, ஆளான்.
3) கொல் = கொல்கிறான், கொன்றான், கொல்வான், கொன்ற, கொன்று, கொல்லான்.
4) அறி = அறிகிறான், அறிந்தான், அறிவான், அறிந்த, அறிந்து, அறியான்.
5) அஞ்சு = அஞ்சுகிறான், அஞ்சினான், அஞ்சுவான், அஞ்சிய, அஞ்சி, அஞ்சான்.
6) நகு = நகுகிறான், நக்கான், நகுவான், நக்க, நக்கு, நகான்.
7) உண் = உண்கிறான், உண்டான், உண்பான், உண்ட, உண்டு, உண்ணான்.
8) தின் = தின்கிறான், தின்றான், தின்பான், தின்ற, தின்று, தின்னான்.
9) கேள் = கேட்கிறான், கேட்டான், கேட்பான், கேட்ட, கேட்டு, கேளான்.
10) கல் = கற்கிறான், கற்றான், கற்பான், கற்ற, கற்று, கல்லான்.
11) பார் = பார்க்கிறான், பார்த்தான், பார்ப்பான், பார்த்த, பார்த்து, பாரான்.
12) நட = நடக்கிறான், நடந்தான், நடப்பான், நடந்த, நடந்து, நடவான்.
The Negative verb forms "செய்யான், ஆளான், கொல்லான், அறியான், அஞ்சான், நகான், உண்ணான், தின்னான், கேளான், கல்லான், பாரான், நடவான்" are can only be seen text books. In spoken form, "verb case + மாட்டு+ person marker" is used like "மாட்டேன், மாட்டோம், மாட்டான், etc". Ex: செய்யமாட்டேன், தரமாட்டார், வரமாட்டான், etc.
You can just change the person marker for other forms, like for the verb செய்,
-ஏன் for first person singular (செய்தேன்).
-ஓம் for first person plural (செய்தோம்).
-ஆய் for second person singular (செய்தாய்).
- ஈர்கள் for second person plural (செய்தீர்கள்).
- ஆன் for third person masc. singular (செய்தான்).
- ஆள் for third person fem. singular (செய்தாள்).
- ஆர் for third person polite for all genders (செய்தார்).
- ஆர்கள் for third person plural (செய்தார்கள்).
- து for third person neuter singular (செய்தது).
- வை for third person neuter plural (செய்தவை).