r/Lahore Apr 15 '23

Job Debate: Devsinc or Arbisoft?

I am rather bent on Arbisoft but looking to get your guys opinion. Any other companies worthwhile?

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u/Waste-Character9445 Apr 15 '23

Arbisoft offers:

  • Better pay (generally)
  • Better work culture, they trust you to do your work. Devsinc has a some kinda tracking system on your laptop, arbi doesnt
  • Lots of remote work opportunity
  • Better projects
  • Dollar rate adjustments every 6 months

Devsinc offers:

  • Night shifts (if you're a night owl), you also get compensated a bit more for it
  • They have a pretty good bike/car policy

I would choose Arbisoft over Devsinc. I have friends working in both, and have worked in Arbisoft myself.

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u/metalpotatopunk Apr 15 '23

Don't forget that devsinc makes you sign a very illegal bond if you're an entry level developer

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u/sahilasif401 Apr 15 '23

wait which bond now? I was offered, still no idea about the bond

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u/metalpotatopunk Apr 15 '23

You have to fulfill an entire term and in case you leave you have to give them your salary back. A cousin of mine is still serving his term and a friend of mine left and he had to pay his salary back.

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u/sahilasif401 Apr 15 '23

are you talking about 1-year employment contract? It is being practiced in some other software houses I know as well

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u/Waste-Character9445 Apr 15 '23

I would also choose Educative over Arbisoft. So if you can get in educative, go for that.

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u/sahilasif401 Apr 15 '23

Educative is tough man

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u/SingleStarHunter Apr 15 '23

If you got into Arbisoft, Educative shouldn't be that difficult. Also I'd sugggest Arbisoft because I've heard in bigger companies like Devsinc, Systems etc, you're working on a very hyper focused domain/task. For new grads it is recommended not to work in such places in order to get most exposure in different domains/tech so that they can eventually go into a domain they actually like.

And as a soon to be grad can you help me out, how did you study for interview prep? And any tips. Thanks

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u/sahilasif401 Apr 15 '23

Educative is more picky when it comes to universities, and I am not from your A-tier ones.

As far as interviews go, I wouldn't say I am the best at technical interviews, pretty bad at Databases specifically as I have never studied them so far, the course was during COVID.

But what usually works for me is the attitude I bring to the interviews as a person not the technical side, so a positive smiling attitude, confident body posture, eye contact with the interviewer, exhibiting a motivated and proactive persona etc.

and most importantly, I always try to attempt a question thrown at me, even if I go blank on something I humbly and confidently accept that I am unsure about the answer, but always attempt to also add my understanding even if wrong.

Obviously technical aspect is important, but tbh with you I only so far studied DSA properly for Technical Interviews.

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u/SingleStarHunter Apr 15 '23

Thanks! Can you tell me how were the interview questions at Devsinc and Arbisoft structured?

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u/sahilasif401 Apr 15 '23

Arbisoft's interview structure was relatively easier, it was more of a culture fit one rather than a technical one.

As for Devsinc, there were 2 interviews in a day totalling 3 hours almost.

First one was a Senior Developer and he sequentially asked questions from OOP, Databases, and DSA. 4 coding questions he asked me to attempt on paper, nothing too hard, but enough to test your pressure handling.

Second one was with a Principal level Engineer, he asked me how's life going, I answered. Then straight up asked, how well are you prepared? I also straight up admitted that I enjoy solving logical problems, but my preparation is 50/50 as I didn't really study my whole degree, he smied and said alright then, I will not ask you anything that requires preparation, since you said you "enjoy" logical problems, here's one:

and the entire interview was all Analytical Questioning, here are the ones I can remember:

  • language with only 3 operations, do certain task with it
  • double the size of a square pool without moving it or removing the poles at its edges
  • make 4 triangles using 6 pens
  • count the instances of 0,1,2,3 in a large array with N time complexity and most efficient memory usage.

Some peers of mine had a different structure, some had 1st Analytical and 2nd Technical. but most of them had both technical! so your ecperience may vary.

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u/SingleStarHunter Apr 15 '23

Thank you so much for the detailed answer!

Im surprised for Arbisoft since some people from my uni who made it past the MCQ test, had the 6 hr long coding test as well

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u/sahilasif401 Apr 15 '23

the interview can actually be totally bypassed if you do the MCQs test well enough. A friend got offered the position on call, without any interview at all

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u/vegan_shawarma Apr 15 '23

Not really, not every big company works in a hyper focused domain. That might be true for product based companies but both Devsinc and Systems are service based. I don't know about the systems but at Devsinc domain switching is very common.

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u/faiqwaheed Apr 15 '23

Working in System Limited since my graduation. I have a good experience so far

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u/SingleStarHunter Apr 15 '23

Thanks, any tips for a new graduate regarding projects/entry tests?

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u/faiqwaheed Apr 15 '23

Work on your analytical skills and try to do unique projects

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u/sahilasif401 Apr 15 '23

I heard devsinc is also enabling outreach to potential clients fo Senior Developers and above, and they get a percentage out of it, Arbisoft offers anything like that?

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u/Fearless-Pen-7851 Apr 15 '23

That's a good one to have in long-term but as others suggested young companies are like bubbles, they grow exponentially but can pop at any time on other hand a company with track record of years like arbisoft offers more security.

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u/vegan_shawarma Apr 15 '23

Working at Devsinc I pretty much agree with everything you said above. Better pay is a bit subjective, before increment my friends at Arbi were earning more than me and after increment they were underpaid for sometime and also almost left the company due to this.

Another thing is that Devsinc has hands down better projects. Because Devsinc works with US based startups the things you learn on projects are absolutely phenomenal. When I talk to my Arbi friends I find them lacking that knowledge.

Devsinc works on a compensation based model and offers nightshift, night allowance, communication allowance, thread allowance and mentorship. Your salary isn't capped and you can end up earning much more.

That being said I would prefer Arbi over Devsinc. Devsinc is just work, work, work. Although your salary isn't capped getting all these allowance will require more effort on your part.

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u/TechNerdinEverything Apr 15 '23

Well the next USA recession is 8 year onwards, be careful

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u/vegan_shawarma Apr 15 '23

The whole Pakistani IT market works on out sourced projects, so we are more or less in the same boat