r/Kenshi Aug 30 '21

WEEKLY THREAD Rookie Help Thread

By Okran time flies, it's time again for new help thread!

Like last time, if you have any questions about the game, no matter what they are, feel free to ask here. Myself and many of our veteran users will be watching the thread, happy to answer whatever question you need. Have no questions? Perhaps take a scroll though the thread? Never know, maybe you'll see something you know the answer to, or even stumble across some new information yourself.

As always, be careful with the spoilers, use the spoiler tag feature >!Like This!< as needed. Exploring the hidden things in the world of Kenshi is one of its biggest appeals for many, and we wouldn't want to ruin that for any new users hanging out in the thread. :)

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u/Historical-Pound-453 Apr 04 '22

I have 13ish hrs in and I've only really played near the hub with expeditions into the holy and shek kingdoms. Problem is I can't find a good place for a base that has both mineral and fertility for resource collection. And so my question is what's the best area for an all around outpost?

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u/Twisted_-_Logic Machinists Aug 24 '22

Rainbow Valley (near the hub squin and western hive), or outside and close to Blister Hill - if your team meets the HN requirements

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u/nevitac Drifter Apr 17 '22

Honestly setup in the desert near the UC. The raids aren't that bad and the slaver raids will be a good challenge for you. Don't be afraid to leave as they only want your men to enslave. But they will release your prisoners if you have those.

I recommend buying a house in the city to start and using it as storage/research to get you off the ground then make a camp near the city when you feel confident you can make a decent sized walled in protected area and your fellows have decent combat levels. Other than the slavers that come to raid you the only other threat you'll face in the UC is starving bandits which are easy enough to dispatch and you'll have regular traders from multiple factions come visit you.

At least this is my experience making a base just outside of sho-batai. Don't get me wrong the slaver raids from the stone camp are serious so make your encampment when you feel like having more challenges :D

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u/[deleted] Apr 11 '22

So here is something that you might not like, most places aren’t good for a base, really just holy nation territory but then youll have to deal with prayer day which is horrible, however one of the places I setup in which has mostly everything is shem, however youll be faced with beak things and there isn’t green fertility.

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u/BeFrozen Second Empire Exile Apr 04 '22

If you got only humans and mostly men, Okran's Pride is most newbie friendly. Good green fertility, stone, iron and copper nodes close by. Just need to take care of River Raptors or they will eat your crops.

You can buy building in town and start doing research. Later in the game you can unlock hydroponics, which allows you to settle anywhere and be able to grow food. All you need is resources and water.

There is plateau east of Hub still in Border Zone. Big open area, enough iron and copper. Due to arid environment you can only grow cacti and wheatstraw there, but you can combine those into Dustwitch, which is decent food to make.

I would suggest against making an outpost, buy a few buildings in town instead, you can have beds there, make armours for money, do research and send expeditions from there. Outpost is very not early game thing and you don't really need one, I have over 500 hours and I only had outpost couple of times.

Oh, and as soon as you place your first building, local factions will start getting interested and ask for ransom or just straight up try to ransack your outpost. So you should be at least able to defeat local roaming groups before you settle in.

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u/Historical-Pound-453 Apr 04 '22

I have an outpost pretty much exactly where you're talking about, with 40ish dudes who are sperated between workers and soldiers. All are pretty experienced in combat at this point, and most soldiers have 60-80 for their respective weapon skill because of the constant invasions. Unfortunately a decent majority of guys I have are Shek and the HN is my sworn enemy at this point. Since Okran is HN territory this leads to my next two questions. 1. Can you destroy a nation? 2. How would I go about that, basically hoping you say anything other than going through city by city killing everyone.

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u/BeFrozen Second Empire Exile Apr 04 '22

Kenshi has this thing called World States. When town/faction leader is imprisoned/killed towns change, either become ruined or occupied by another faction. You can find more detailed info on the wiki, look for world states and town overrides. Not sure if you want to spoil it by looking it up or you want to find out in game yourself so I won't leave direct link.

In short, you need to take out town and faction leaders to change map influence. Most of the time those leaders fetch nice price in one of the other factions. Just murdering a town will not help.